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    Thumbs up Major ENDORSEMENT FOR RONPAUL

    Yes it is the latest news, you heard it here first. now go see for yourself...... www.ronpaulracing.com/blog/?p=35
    Last edited by freedomintheusa; 02-12-2008 at 02:56 AM. Reason: wrong title



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    Sweet, looking forward to the recording.
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    Question What does this mean?

    freedomointheusa,

    For motor sports illiterates like myself could you please provide some background or links as to the significance of this announcement.

    The term Hermanator, and the names Kenny Wallace and Mike Bliss mean nothing to me. Please illuminate me.

    All the best.

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    Quote Originally Posted by expatinireland View Post
    freedomointheusa,

    For motor sports illiterates like myself could you please provide some background or links as to the significance of this announcement.

    The term Hermanator, and the names Kenny Wallace and Mike Bliss mean nothing to me. Please illuminate me.

    All the best.
    Kenny Wallace is very well respected driver and personality among NASCAR fans. He is a co-host on a couple of NASCAR related television shows on the SpeedTV cable channel (owned by Fox Broadcasting). He is sympathetic to the Liberty message and Dr Paul and he is a very well liked and enthusiastic person. He'd be a great spokesperson for Dr Paul to the NASCAR world.

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    Everyone needs to donate to this right now, this is a tremendous opportunity!
    The surge is working. Ron Paul's surge in the polls, that is.

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    Add a friggen PayPal checkout or Chip-In, and I'll donate... I don't do Google Checkout.

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    Sorry

    WE don' t do PayPal, and Chipin is set to go to PayPal, PayPAl has been known to hold funds (freeze) accounts ...But we will have our own merchant account very soon, so you can donate then...Thanks for your response.......



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    Please don't pay $300,000.00 for a 12 inch sign on the side of car going 200 miles per hour. This has already been verified as a scam.

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    Quote Originally Posted by freedomintheusa View Post
    WE don' t do PayPal, and Chipin is set to go to PayPal, PayPAl has been known to hold funds (freeze) accounts ...But we will have our own merchant account very soon, so you can donate then...Thanks for your response.......
    Paypal is an excellent service I have used for MANY years. They will not freeze accounts if they know what is going on. In the case of GrannyWarriors, they did not set it up properly so PP knew a huge amount of money was coming in then going out all at once. Once they found out, the account was "thawed" in one day. I do not find PP to be an unethical source. They do freeze accounts for security reasons from time to time, but they are usually good reasons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by expatinireland View Post
    freedomointheusa,

    For motor sports illiterates like myself could you please provide some background or links as to the significance of this announcement.

    The term Hermanator, and the names Kenny Wallace and Mike Bliss mean nothing to me. Please illuminate me.

    All the best.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenny_Wallace

    Look no further for your answers...

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    Quote Originally Posted by JulioForPaul View Post
    Please don't pay $300,000.00 for a 12 inch sign on the side of car going 200 miles per hour. This has already been verified as a scam.
    LOL!
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    Quote Originally Posted by JulioForPaul View Post
    Please don't pay $300,000.00 for a 12 inch sign on the side of car going 200 miles per hour. This has already been verified as a scam.
    Julio, the sign is 18" wide by 12" tall... that is a Major Associate Sponsorship, and at $300,000 for two cars for the entire season, simply a bargain that can't be beat.

    For reference, tape two sheets of paper together edge to edge, and go find a monte carlo to stick the paper to. Imagine the paper is 1" wider at both ends, and 1/2" taller at the top and bottom... it's NOT a small sign, by any means, and with a bit more money, we can cover an entire car...

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    Yeah, sort of a drag that it's costing so much money to put a picture/sign (how big/small will it even be?), on a racing car for a dude who's supposedly a Ron Paul supporter. Perhaps the sponsorship costs aren't his call, but a hundred grand???

    Maybe I'm the weirdo who thinks a true supporter of Ron Paul would feel differently about the cost.

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    Quote Originally Posted by freedomintheusa View Post
    WE don' t do PayPal, and Chipin is set to go to PayPal, PayPAl has been known to hold funds (freeze) accounts ...But we will have our own merchant account very soon, so you can donate then...Thanks for your response.......
    Don't blame you. PayPal is less than dependable.

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    Just my personal opinion, but didn't we learn anything from the blimp?



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    Quote Originally Posted by Andrew76 View Post
    Yeah, sort of a drag that it's costing so much money to put a picture/sign (how big/small will it even be?), on a racing car for a dude who's supposedly a Ron Paul supporter. Perhaps the sponsorship costs aren't his call, but a hundred grand???

    Maybe I'm the weirdo who thinks a true supporter of Ron Paul would feel differently about the cost.
    The driver is a supporter, the owner is in it for profit... While the driver has some say, I would venture to guess that this would normally cost upwards of $500,000 per race for a Nextel Cup car and $350,000 per race for a Busch Series car... We're lucky as hell to get it for $100,000 for the first 4 races, and $300,000 for the whole season.

    It seems everyone here is looking a gift horse in the mouth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LibertyEagle View Post
    Just my personal opinion, but didn't we learn anything from the blimp?
    I have to somewhat agree, I doubt this money will be well spent cause how often are you going to be able to see this little logo on a car when all that money could be spent on TV adverts during these events that get our message out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LibertyEagle View Post
    Just my personal opinion, but didn't we learn anything from the blimp?
    +1, I agree.


    If you guys can get this done, fantastic!!!! It's awesome to see RP Supporters originate and bring clever ideas to fruition. You'll always have folks who would rather see energy spent in a different manner, but what I've learned through this process is that where anyone is making headway, to support them--if not financially, then through some cheerleading---go RP Racing!

    I just wish we could do so with respect to funding candidates who we could get to Washington for the purpose of changing government. Brent Sanders, Jim Forsythe and Murray Sabrin are names that come to mind.
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    Maybe my bias is showing not being a nascar fan; but, you've got to be kidding me! Spend $300,000 to put a little sign on a car? (And they thought $400k spent on the blimp was a bad idea....). Sheesh, for that kind of money, you could put a healthy down payment on an NHL franchise.....dress them in red,white, and blue and change their names to the RonPauls....right in mid-season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phoenixzorn View Post
    The driver is a supporter, the owner is in it for profit... While the driver has some say, I would venture to guess that this would normally cost upwards of $500,000 per race for a Nextel Cup car and $350,000 per race for a Busch Series car... We're lucky as hell to get it for $100,000 for the first 4 races, and $300,000 for the whole season.

    It seems everyone here is looking a gift horse in the mouth.
    Your estimate of 1/2 mill per race is in the high range for a full sponsorship for a Sprint Cup car. I think Dupont is probably paying around 20 million per year for the #24 car. Not sure about the Nationwide (former Busch) Series numbers. re: not being able to read the car's decal during the race as mentioned in some other posts, a lot of race coverage is of caution laps and pit stops where the decals are quite easy to read (even at the track).

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    Quote Originally Posted by jumpyg1258 View Post
    I have to somewhat agree, I doubt this money will be well spent cause how often are you going to be able to see this little logo on a car when all that money could be spent on TV adverts during these events that get our message out.
    One problem with the blimp is that it is old technology. You spend a bunch of money but can use it because of weather or that it takes 3 days to get it to a place. Not to say blimps don't serve a purpose but in the era of political quick response a blimp is a slow mover and not very dependable. It spent a good part of the first four days flying over North and South Carolina farmland. Wasn't the blimp in Florida during the New Hampshire primary? Avoidable problems but not a great use of limited funds.

    My comments here are in hindsight and It was a idea that enough people wanted to try to fund it so who am I to say it wasn't worth trying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dbhohio47 View Post
    Maybe my bias is showing not being a nascar fan; but, you've got to be kidding me! Spend $300,000 to put a little sign on a car? (And they thought $400k spent on the blimp was a bad idea....). Sheesh, for that kind of money, you could put a healthy down payment on an NHL franchise.....dress them in red,white, and blue and change their names to the RonPauls....right in mid-season.
    Exactly, who ever pays for this is $#@!ing nuts and getting ripped off. think of what all else could be done with 300,000 dollars! Hell the blimp did that and atleast it got media attention. What the hell is this gonna do. Nothing when you think about the 40 other cars in the race all covered with adverts. IT IS NOT WORTH IT. Surely the grassroots who did such amazing things like the blimp, money bombs, funding the granny warriors, and the live free or die project can think of something wiser to use this money on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by phoenixzorn View Post
    The driver is a supporter, the owner is in it for profit... While the driver has some say, I would venture to guess that this would normally cost upwards of $500,000 per race for a Nextel Cup car and $350,000 per race for a Busch Series car... We're lucky as hell to get it for $100,000 for the first 4 races, and $300,000 for the whole season.

    It seems everyone here is looking a gift horse in the mouth.
    If the driver is really a supporter then how bout he just wears some RP stuff for free (even a button for interviews) or how about he announces it in an interview at the race?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jumpyg1258 View Post
    I have to somewhat agree, I doubt this money will be well spent cause how often are you going to be able to see this little logo on a car when all that money could be spent on TV adverts during these events that get our message out.
    These are High speed, high dollar advertising. These are TV ads, with great coverage.
    The price is not bad when the major advertisers are in for millions.
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    They put wheels on the blimp? Wild.
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    Quote Originally Posted by freedomintheusa View Post
    Yes it is the latest news, you heard it here first. now go see for yourself...... www.ronpaulracing.com/blog/?p=35
    I fixed Wallace's wikipedia page.
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    "If the driver is really a supporter then how bout he just wears some RP stuff for free (even a button for interviews) " .. .
    NASCAR drivers don't do anything like this for free. It's big, big money. They have a guy in the winners circle who does nothing but put different hats on people so their logo can be seen for a few minutes.

    Don't focus on how big the sticker is.. the important thing is that the driver is very well known and a TV celebrity and will be saying the name "Ron Paul" a lot on national TV. That's what they are trained to do. And the car is seen a LOT by a lot of people when it's sitting still and everything on it can be read.
    .... and .. I was sitting eating lunch yesterday in the Firehouse subs near Lowe's motor speedway.. the TV was tuned to CNN and they mentioned Ron Paul. Some of the mechanics from one of the race teams were sitting at the table next to me and started talking about this project in a positive way. This project is generating buzz already.

    That said.. I'd much rather see the $$$ spent on TV ads in NC so we can get out and canvass without people rejecting and ridiculing us. The general public thinks Ron Paul has dropped out or has zero chance and I don't think sponsoring a car is going to change that perception.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GeorgiaforPaul08 View Post
    Exactly, who ever pays for this is $#@!ing nuts and getting ripped off. think of what all else could be done with 300,000 dollars! Hell the blimp did that and atleast it got media attention. What the hell is this gonna do. Nothing when you think about the 40 other cars in the race all covered with adverts. IT IS NOT WORTH IT. Surely the grassroots who did such amazing things like the blimp, money bombs, funding the granny warriors, and the live free or die project can think of something wiser to use this money on.
    Major Associate Sponsorship includes:

    Personal appearances by the team’s “Show Car” at special events (in fact, the Show Car will be traveling through Texas on March 4th, the date of the Texas Primary!)
    The possibility of a personal appearance by one of the team’s drivers (this is very tentative and depends on his schedule)
    Signage on the team’s Transport Vehicle (the 18-wheeler that transports the cars from race to race–it’s a moving billboard that travels over 100,000 miles of freeways per year)
    An 18″ x 12″ decal on both sides of the car
    Signage on the Pit Equipment
    Permission to include a Decal/Button on the Race Team’s uniform

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    The blimp wasn't on TV
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