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  1. #31
    Quote Originally Posted by daviddee View Post
    Sure they are.

    It is clear your view of Libertarians is incomplete or one sided.

    Please review:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libertarian

    Please review:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consequentialist

    It appears you are confusing Libertarians with Anarchists.
    In my vision of ordered liberty, 'ordered' is a supporting adjective, not the center of the phrase. Switzerland is a land of libertied order. Ill pass.



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  3. #32
    I live in Canada. The fact that Canada got #3 on that list proves that the ranking method is severely flawed.



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  5. #33
    My question was really serious. Is there any other nation in the top 10 that is a common law nation and has a constitutionally guaranteed right to arms that cant be easily disassembled?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeffhenderson View Post
    I live in Canada. The fact that Canada got #3 on that list proves that the ranking method is severely flawed.
    I think the list considers only economic freedom. Money is only half the equation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by daviddee View Post
    Your last sentence is spot on.

    Switzerland will continue to fall into the Abyss (the EU)... You can not be surrounded by a cesspool on all sides and not be influenced by it.
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4612281.stm

    being forced upon them as much as anything.

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    Hey, there are alot of places that used to under British dominion. No need to get testy.

    I suppose I'll have to cross my fingers and stay here then, and pick the freeest state in the union to hide in.

    Thats a debate we should have as well.

    Im actually tempted to move to the state that gets the highest RP numbers in their primary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Malum Prohibitum View Post
    Hey, there are alot of places that used to under British dominion. No need to get testy.

    I suppose I'll have to cross my fingers and stay here then, and pick the freeest state in the union to hide in.

    Thats a debate we should have as well.

    Im actually tempted to move to the state that gets the highest RP numbers in their primary.
    Sounds like you may like the Kingdom of Nye only issue is that the feds own the vast majority of the land there

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    Quote Originally Posted by steph3n View Post
    Sounds like you may like the Kingdom of Nye only issue is that the feds own the vast majority of the land there
    Dude, Nevada would be PERFECT if it 1. had some friggin water, and 2. got rid of Vegas.



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  15. #42
    Quote Originally Posted by daviddee View Post
    Your options in the USA are (my opinion):

    Florida
    Texas
    Nevada
    Tennessee

    Of these Florida and Nevada are the best options.

    Again, this is my opinion and it is influences by weather, taxes, guns, and a few other issues.
    I like Texas far better, less expensive to live and much better land options

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    Nevada

    Quote Originally Posted by Malum Prohibitum View Post
    Dude, Nevada would be PERFECT if it 1. had some friggin water, and 2. got rid of Vegas.
    Water is a problem, but all Vegas needs is a Duncan Hunter- type fence around it.
    Are you one of "The People of The One Law"?

    see also the poll about beliefs here on RPF: The One Law

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    Switzerland has conscription.
    NZ has high taxes.

    don't just go by what the law is in a certain country but if the law is enforced. In Latin countries taxes and other laws are just ignored.

  19. #46
    Quote Originally Posted by daviddee View Post
    The land options I agree on.

    Price is not a factor...

    Texas fails for me because of the southern invasion (I don't speak spanish - nor desire to)
    have you been to florida?!?! I don't speak spanish and find it MUCH harder here than anywhere in TX! I refuse to speak spanish I should say

  20. #47
    Quote Originally Posted by daviddee View Post
    Your options in the USA are (my opinion):

    Florida
    Texas
    Nevada
    Tennessee

    Of these Florida and Nevada are the best options.

    Again, this is my opinion and it is influenced by weather, taxes, guns, and a few other issues.
    Ive added a few to that list. Currently on the table for consideration include WA, ID, MT, UT, NV, MO, TX, TN.

    Florida is just way too full of cops who are overzealous at best and completely corrupt at worst.

    TX has alot going for it. Yeah, its hot, and they also have their own share of Neocons and overzealous cops, but you cant beat the pay to cost of living ratio, and I love east texas greenery. Unfortunately I sent 150 resumes to the DFW area and got zilch response.

    There are opportunities in NV, and their government is great. Sadly their climate blows.

    TN - I dont have enough info to make a judgment on, but my gut says low economic opportunity for a lawyer, and pretty densely populated.

    The mountain states are friggin beautiful, but how to find a decent job...

    Missouri is kind of a balance of all of it.

    Picking a home for the next 40 years is hard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Malum Prohibitum View Post
    Ive added a few to that list. Currently on the table for consideration include WA, ID, MT, UT, NV, MO, TX, TN.

    Florida is just way too full of cops who are overzealous at best and completely corrupt at worst.

    TX has alot going for it. Yeah, its hot, and they also have their own share of Neocons and overzealous cops, but you cant beat the pay to cost of living ratio, and I love east texas greenery. Unfortunately I sent 150 resumes to the DFW area and got zilch response.

    There are opportunities in NV, and their government is great. Sadly their climate blows.

    TN - I dont have enough info to make a judgment on, but my gut says low economic opportunity for a lawyer, and pretty densely populated.

    The mountain states are friggin beautiful, but how to find a decent job...

    Missouri is kind of a balance of all of it.

    Picking a home for the next 40 years is hard.
    any law specialty? I know some places that could use some lawyers in TX



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    Quote Originally Posted by daviddee View Post
    I live in Florida. Your opinions are obviously formed from the Miami area.

    I have been to Miami like a total of 3 times. Not high on my list of places to visit.

    West Coast Florida... Tampa to Pensacola. Check it out.
    I am not fond of the ocean
    Yea miami is where business holds me down. I agree with Tancredo, the people aren't even friendly here Actually some of those from Argentina are friendly and beautiful too

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    Quote Originally Posted by steph3n View Post
    any law specialty? I know some places that could use some lawyers in TX
    I dont have a speciality yet. I graduate in May. I am interested in practicing either criminal defense (particularly *malum prohibitum* offenses), and torts (plaintiffs side torts and contract claims). Or it would be great to get involved in working in house for some tech company.

    In a perfect world, Id eventually run a practice keeping .gov off of little guys' backs and help make it right when the little guy or business is screwed by some random .corp.

  28. #54
    Quote Originally Posted by daviddee View Post
    Weather is a huge issue so it wipes out a lot of your additions... for me at least.

    Florida - big state. I have never had issues with the cop presence. This is one of the reasons why I moved here (came from the North East - pig heaven)

    Missouri - Everyone I have met who moved from Missouri was a quality person. Most end up going back to Missouri... so that means something
    Yeah, the hot weather is more problematic for me than the cold. I can always put on more clothes, but once naked, if youre still freaking hot, you can suck it up or die.

    Funny, since at least half the random tasing videos I see come from Florida. Im also somewhat concerned that the entire state will be under water before I die. Is there one spot in the entire state more than 200 feet above sea level?

    I grew up in St. Louis, and we have our share of dirtbags like everywhere else, but MO has some benefits. Its not the freeest, or the best climate or economics wise, but a man can still buy a couple hundred acres on a river and be left alone outside the bigger cities, and MO has a series of amendments that limits state budget size to a percentage of the state gdp, after that they send out rebate checks. That counts for alot. Plus, thunderstorms are fun.

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    http://freestateproject.org/
    I made the move from Los Angeles, and I'm loving it.



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    Quote Originally Posted by daviddee View Post
    I had 10 acres which abutted 500 acres of beef cattle laden pasture in Florida (sold in March of 2007) and I finishing up a new house that is on 7 acres and abuts another couple hundred of acres. So my land requirements have always been satisfied here. Compare this to the North East (where I left) with two acre zoning and if you could find land it was a couple hundred thousand per acre and you had no space around you. I was checking out land in Los Gatos, CA I found a lovely 25 acre lot... for $2.3M.

    As to Florida being under water If you believe in global warming/climate change that is your choice. If you further believe the oceans will rise and consume Florida that is also your choice. I have millions of dollars worth of real estate here and the thought of ocean levels rising is not an issue I bother to ponder... I just now checked and it appears I am 100 ft above sea level.

    Tasing - Again, huge state... I would never live in area that was a police state. Comparing Miami to where I live is like saying, "San Diego sucks... Thus San Francisco must suck too".
    There is no question that land prices in the west are insane, particularly so in CA. Im sure what drives it is a combination of .gov owning half of the land, then another huge chunk is mountains and then most of whats left is desert... That, combined with the draconian socialist .gov here is why Im ready to leave as soon as I find a economically viable alternative.

    Its not so much that I buy the manmade global warming issue as much as I am aware that the climate is always changing, and 100 feet isnt all that much insurance, although it beats the hell out of 50 feet.

    Thats an interesting point, since local police agencies do vary in their level of jackbootedness, though they tend to vary less within states than between them. Actually, you got it backwards San Francisco Sucks, San Diego is the best big city in the state!

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    Quote Originally Posted by OferNave View Post
    http://freestateproject.org/
    I made the move from Los Angeles, and I'm loving it.
    Ya know, I considered living on the NH coast, and working in Boston... Right up until the NH primary numbers came out.

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    http://www.stateofworldliberty.org/report/rankings.html = is SO WRONG its not funny.. the US as 6th.. and you're approaching facism, lmao. Bull$#@! it keeps 6th, and is better than Australia.

    http://www.worldaudit.org/democracy.htm - Democracy / Press Freedom / Corruption
    And I know the US ain't a democracy.. so don't go there, its irrelevant.

    ountry


    Democracy Rank Press Freedom Rank Corruption Rank
    Finland 1 1 1
    Denmark 2 2 1
    Sweden 3 2 4
    New Zealand 4 7 1
    Switzerland 5 6 6
    Netherlands 6 7 6
    Norway 7 2 8
    Canada 8 15 8
    United Kingdom 9 18 11
    Australia 9 23 10
    Germany 11 11 13
    Austria 12 23 12
    Belgium 12 2 18
    Ireland 14 11 14
    United States 15 11 17
    France 16 23 16
    Portugal 17 9 23
    Estonia 18 11 23

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    “I will be as harsh as truth, and uncompromising as justice... I am in earnest, I will not equivocate, I will not excuse, I will not retreat a single inch, and I will be heard.” ~ William Lloyd Garrison

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    Conza, why do you even bother? lol.
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