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hopefully we can start to work together with Huck's people?
It's never bad to make new friends ,)
Umm, no, he doesn't hold the credentials to be a minister. He never graduated from seminary school. He claims to be the only one running for president with a theology degree... what a liar. Everything that man does is an act. Every once in a while you see his true self come out.... but you have to really watch for it.
Good thread.
I agree with most of what is being said here. Huckabee gained some respect tonight as he slipped into MSMs second class citizen status. He didn't like it much and you can't blame him for trying to set things right. He found out that it doesn't matter. Either way, Ron and Mike looked like the better candidates tonight. McCain and Romney acted like asshats.
"Let it not be said that we did nothing."-Ron Paul
"We have set them on the hobby-horse of an idea about the absorption of individuality by the symbolic unit of COLLECTIVISM. They have never yet and they never will have the sense to reflect that this hobby-horse is a manifest violation of the most important law of nature, which has established from the very creation of the world one unit unlike another and precisely for the purpose of instituting individuality."- A Quote From Some Old Book
Huckabee is a fraud, a liar, and a corrupt establishment shill, but he certainly does have better debating manners than Romney or Huckabee. Also, now that the media has once again turned its back on him, I wonder if he's "alone with his conscience" and starting to question the motives and intentions of the establishment, himself. Out of all of the other candidates, he's the one most vigorously borrowing talking points from Ron Paul's platform, and now that his chances for the nomination are slipping away, it'd be really wonderful if the message started to genuinely affect him deep down, too. He may be CFR, but he's still human - and considering his affair with the CFR has been relatively short, it's quite possible that he's redeemable as a person.
That said, I would NEVER want to see him as Ron Paul's VP...I say this frequently, but apparently people really need it beaten into their heads: Ron Paul has to choose his VP extremely wisely if he does not want to be assassinated. His VP must be someone who is at least as much of a threat to the establishment as he is (and Huckabee is not it).
I think Ron Paul and Huckabee actually got a lot of mileage out of being polite in this debate, it's being discussed on our local talk radio this morning and I also read a number of comments on the CNN board saying that people wanted to hear all of the candidates.
I can only hope that the blatant and rude omission by CNN turns into votes. Ron Paul will have my vote NO MATTER WHAT. I've been enlightened; I'm NEVER going back.
Can you imagine how angry the Hucksters are?
They probably laugh at us for accusing the MSM of ignoring our guy, but now they know.
Did $#@!abee say a word about Ron Paul when $#@!abee was getting plenty of media attention and Ron wasn't invited to debates etc? I don't give a rats ass what Huckabee does now....no sympathy from me....I think it's funny as hell he is getting the "Ron Paul treatment"..,..Fred Thompson got it, but Rudy was smart enough to realize to drop out quick because he was done for.
There is only ONE candidate that can stand without media backing....Ron Paul. No other candidate could stand at all without some media aside from Ron because of the INTENSE grassroots support he has....no other candidate has supporters even close to Ron Paul supporters....and I LOVE BEING PART OF IT.
"War is when the government tells you who the bad guy is, revolution is when you decide that for yourself."
Just because Romney and McCain were doing all of the speaking doesn't mean they did well. I think they both lost a lot of voters. Ron Paul was very efficient and came across well. The fact that CNN screwed him over couldn't have been more obvious. People know when someone is getting screwed over and they tend to support them more. Huckabee also did a very good job. Huckabee and Ron Paul will pick up some votes and McCain and Romney will lose a bunch. Romney looked shifty and dishonest. McCain looked like a smug overconfident $#@!.
That's because on a bad day we still raise more than the Suckabee's bad day. We raise more in a single day than Huckabee can raise in taxes in his entire 8 Years. He knows he's sitting next to Greatness. At least he's somewhat humble in the face of his next leader. Mitt is a smug piece of $#@!. McCain is a piece of trash. After his Hitler/Godwin comment and his 100 Year war concept, he's effectively erased any respect I had for being a $#@!ty pilot and for getting captured.
I gained some respect for Huck. Mitt and Mc had those snarky condescending grins on their faces when RP talked of conservative values. Huck atleast kept an air of respectability.
great thread. noztnac makes a good point. more talk time doesn't always guarantee more popularity. look what it did for rudy!
I agree that huck was respectful, but where was he when RP was excluded from the NH debate? Did he speak a word of the outrage? No. Because his ego was gigantic coming of the big win in Iowa. I'd never want him as VP or in a cabinet post. He's a member of the CFR and will always do their bidding, having taken a swore oath to serve them. I'd much prefer a Paul/Kucinich ticket. They are head and shoulders above all other politicians when it comes to class and integrity.
Huckabee is being driven out because the elite now know that RP's only hope is a negotiated convention and they must have someone win >50% in the primary system. That can't be done with Rudy and Huck in the race. So they force Rudy out before Super Tuesday and they sabotage Huckabee in the debate. So far, none of this blatant anti-American behavior on behalf of the MSM has come back to haunt them. Shame. Most Americans are blind to the obvious.
The care of human life and happiness and not their destruction is the first and only legitimate object of good government. Thomas Jefferson
That does prove that Huck doesn't have the "sponsors" that rich bureaucrats and millionaires like Romney. In the end Huck and Paul are more for the people than the other Media Pretty Boys and that's why the media hates them.
WWRPD- "What Would Ron Paul Do?"
I bet most of the evangelical will notice Huck was ignored. We know it's a delegate thing. Most evangelicals will think it's either a Mormon conspiracy or some other conspiracy to keep the Baptist minister out. This may cause a backlash among evangelicals torn between Romney and Huck.
i think most americans will flip back to american idol and forget what they saw. then, they'll go out and vote for whoever think think has the best chance of winning as per MSM.
100 years of intense, deliberate mass mind control programming by the MSM, the book and magazine publishing houses, the TV and movie production companies, and the tax exempt foundations that control the contents of all the schoolbooks from K through PhD has taken a heavy toll on the minds of americans. even most RP supporters seem to let in but a tiny glimpse of what's going on around them.
The care of human life and happiness and not their destruction is the first and only legitimate object of good government. Thomas Jefferson
Feeling Left out? Huck...finally get's it
All debates should be this way. The people should design them, write all the questions, and then invite the media to cover it passively. There's no reason at all why the media should do anything other than video tape and broadcast. Its a crime against our nation for this to be happening and amazing that we tolerate it.
The care of human life and happiness and not their destruction is the first and only legitimate object of good government. Thomas Jefferson
Huckabee and his supporters are looking more and more like our key. I'm glad to see more sympathetic comments toward him. The enemy of my enemy is indeed my friend. We need him to stay in as long as he can. We need America to see the winner of Iowa being deliberately stifled and begging to be heard by the people. We need him to educate his supporters in a way Dr. Paul hasn't seemed able to do. We need him to make Southerners feel disenfranchised.
I don't think he can make it to the convention, but I sure am glad he made it to Super Tuesday. Hang in as long as you can, Rev. Mr. Huckabee. You're doing God's work for the good of God's country!
So why don't Huckabee and Ron Paul go on a debate tour? Since the MSM are boycotting them, let them go into major cities in the South and other places for hour-long debates. It would put both of them back up in the news. They could do a series of debates on health care, values, the war in Iraq, the economy, etc. Get large local stations to run the debates.
Few men have virtue enough to withstand the highest bidder. ~GEORGE WASHINGTON, letter, Aug. 17, 1779
Quit yer b*tching and whining and GET INVOLVED!!
Ron Paul and Mike Huckabee are pretty much opposites. Remember?
Mike Huckabee is a big Government guy and is for war. He also has an economic strategy which will put more burden on all of the working class.
Ron Paul is a small Government guy and is against war. He has an economic strategy designed to reduce the burden on everyone.
While Mcwar and Robomney were having their little spat I could have swore I heard Huckabee whisper to Ron Paul "you sunk my battleship Ron..."
The huckster sure didnt give a $hit when it was just Ron Paul being excluded.
"Those who say it cannot be done should not interrupt the people doing it." -- Buddhist Proverb
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