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[Mark]

Dang, you're mean.

She knows enough to tell what you should do. Especially about being a Christian.

[Bradley in DC]

MsD's a troublemaker!


http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showpos...82&postcount=5

[driller80545]

So are you more interested in being safe (foreign policy) or keeping your money safe? (SS, inflation tax, the economy in general). I am in your shoes as well and for me it is no contest. I am dead without the money for sure, I don't know if I will ever get hit by a terrorist. How about you?

No, cyclone, I am not afraid of terrorists. I am more afraid of getting struck by lightning. I am just trying to relate my experiences while trying to convince older folks. I am not as concerned with the economy as some may be because I have seen this downfall coming for a long time and have protected my retirement money. Most of the old people that I know refuse to believe the seriousness of this economy and so therefore are not as worried. But the media and GWB have convinced them that they need to be afraid of muslims. I know it sounds crazy, but it is the feedback that I get. Especially crazy to me knowing that these same people witnessed Russia and all the stupid propoganda that came with the cold war. The cold war was much more intense but they seem to not remember that.

[driller80545]

Clearly or you would have known that both post and script are abbreviated and therefore you need a period after the P as well as the S and sentences end in periods.

Were you or are you a damn school teacher. I have never been any good at this, not even in the fourth grade. Haha

[godawgs]

Your post was a waste of time. Not because you do not bring up great points that are specific to elements of the campaign, but you misunderstand all of THIS. The fact that any of THIS exists right now is because of the crazy and ecletic group of people that came together on this Ron Paul banner. All of THIS exists because of the snowball throwers, the worrisome posters, the yellers...

Here is the problem I have with your post and similiar ones. The failure of this campaign to generate higher polling numbers has NOTHING to do with anything you complained about:

- posts in this forum
- sign wavers
- chasing hannity
- washing our hair

If anything, the supporters gave this campaign a chance to have a chance. Thinkiing you are going to turn everyone into zombies is silly. Let me just say this again, the failure of this campaign to generate higher polling numbers has NOTHING to do with anything you complained about

Have fun, this is a great time. Old folks know Guiliani and McCain and are going to vote for those two guys whether we walk around in our Sunday best or not.

[LandonCook]

Bump for truth!

[ddoggphx]

Great post, even if some will hate it.

This thing is about winning. At least that's why I put my money into it.

[Revolution9]

I got to speak my mind on this.
I agree with the spirit of your post. More attention needs to go to getting older voters.
But before I do that, well this is me. I am 50 and my wife is 62.



I have gotten upset at people bashing the young people, for their zeal, passion or enthusiasm.
There are many "older" supporters that are also loud and proud. I met some at Mackinac Island that were older than me.
I have spoken to folks in my area, My Pastor likes Ron Paul but won't preach it from the pulpit.
Some in my church like him, some are convinced that he has no chance.
And the real unfortunate reality is that some are just STUPID. I know I have spoken to them, and can find no logical thinking process. They think Rudy is Conservative , cause they say so on TV.
Many do not use computers.
Until they see him ON TV, all day long. they are not going to consider him a candidate.
They will not research, they do not think. They will be herded.
It sucks, but it is true.
My 82 year old mother is intelligent, She looked at the material,and she watched the first debate.
"he was the only one that made any sense." was her response.
Some people get it.
I don't see people getting turned off of Rons Message by some loud kids, most folks don't care.
I agree that we should be the best ambassadors we can, but at the end of the day it comes down to the message and not the delivery.
Some people just don't get it.

Good to see your face. I am 50 as well but I am a rock and roller and folks think I am my son's brother. So I do not get to carry that look of I have been around buddy. I am probably hard core conservatve in most of my beliefs but get pegged as a liberal because of my dress code.( I dress very nicely but not corporate. I wear suit jackets and polished boots and shoes) but.. I am like..uhh.no..Degeneracy is not part of my paradigm thanks. i was taught philosophy not by the MSM but by the classical thinkers. I have enough street smarts and experience to understand wbhy certain behaviours are called sins and how they warp you. Now.. I do not think I should be canvassing door tpo door..in the square yes....Not because do not shower or dress up but I am just one of those folks with a face (see avatar). Interestingly at the rallies it has been the hard core conservative republicans who have hovered by me asking me numerous questions and my opinion on this that and the other. It helps I have some local fame as the premier landmark sculptor and most know my work.

As for disrespecting old people here in the US. It is a damned shame how older folks/senior citizens get treated and farmed out to nursing homes by their families. Very unnatural if one is to review the other cultures on the earth and their histories.

As for older folks disrespecting youngsters and forgetting how it is to be passionate about a cause and young and thinking yer gonna change the world.. Give the youngsters a break. I straddle the two worlds myself and will defend either against the ravagings of the other. We were all young once or still are and we are all going to get old if we stay outta traffics way.

Be good. remain true to yourself ( something nobody mentions but Ron would wish for) and do not get discouraged.. You are making history.

best
Randy

[BeFranklin]

The clean Mormon that started the gay marriage mess in the United States, the veteran that makes racy comments, or the preacher that is constantly making off colored morbid ones about opponents who should slit their wrists, or voters who will wind up dead like the ducks he shot if they don't vote for him, when his son isn't torturing a dog to death in boy scout camp? This *isn't* scary?

Although bad behavior is never approved of, we should do the right thing because it is the right thing, not because others will view us better. I guarantee the media and the devil will keep calling us so many names no matter what we do or how perfect we are, because Jesus Christ was perfect, and they called him Bezzabulb.

But God blesses, so do the right thing because of Him. Do not do the right thing to please wicked people, because there is no blessing there.

Second, I don't think throwing a snow ball at a scoundrel is a bad thing. If "old people" are afraid of that, then old people better get out of the country that use to tar and feather soundrels. But at least my mother isn't like that. She's an old fashioned American.

If you are going to keep on moving every message out of the main forum so that actual sick things the other candidates are doing is hid, and then make mountains out of molehills out of throwing a SNOWBALL, maybe you shouldnt just relax! Because the other candidates wouldn't look so good if you didn't hide their problems all the time, but your pecking at dust spots and ignoring planks.

The problem is not that we are not good enough. The problem is we're trying to please men not God. If you're trying to please God, you'll focus on your own relationship with him, not other supporters.

Last - if you really have to find fault, I have 4 other people that it would be a lot more valuable to do so with. Torturing dogs or snowballs. Its your choice.

[tamor]

Would it help for Carol Paul to speak to the older crowd? I think she would tell it like it is and could relate the them pretty well. any ideas?