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A friend of mine has to pay on a kid that's not his because he "BASTARDIZED" the child when he realized that it wasn't his and left his ex to fend for the child herself.
'We endorse the idea of voluntarism; self-responsibility: Family, friends, and churches to solve problems, rather than saying that some monolithic government is going to make you take care of yourself and be a better person. It's a preposterous notion: It never worked, it never will. The government can't make you a better person; it can't make you follow good habits.' - Ron Paul 1988
Awareness is the Root of Liberation Revolution is Action upon Revelation
'Resistance and Disobedience in Economic Activity is the Most Moral Human Action Possible' - SEK3
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...the familiar ritual of institutional self-absolution...
...for protecting them, by mock trial, from punishment...
Justice.
war on men. the woman commits fraud on welfare benefits, but he's the one responsible....
"IF GOD DIDN'T WANT TO HELP AMERICA, THEN WE WOULD HAVE Hillary Clinton"!!"let them search you,touch you,violate your Rights,just don't be a dick!"~ cdc482"For Wales. Why Richard, it profits a man nothing to give his soul for the whole world. But for Wales?"All my life I've been at the mercy of men just following orders... Never again!~Erik LehnsherrThere's nothing wrong with stopping people randomly, especially near bars, restaurants etc.~Velho
For some things, like applying for TANF which is a cash benefit, yes. Things like foodstamps probably not. In the case of TANF, once you name the father, the state gives you monthly checks and just puts it on dads running tab. The state can then dock pay, summons to appear, and ultimately jail for contempt if dad avoids the bill.
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'We endorse the idea of voluntarism; self-responsibility: Family, friends, and churches to solve problems, rather than saying that some monolithic government is going to make you take care of yourself and be a better person. It's a preposterous notion: It never worked, it never will. The government can't make you a better person; it can't make you follow good habits.' - Ron Paul 1988
Awareness is the Root of Liberation Revolution is Action upon Revelation
'Resistance and Disobedience in Economic Activity is the Most Moral Human Action Possible' - SEK3
Flectere si nequeo superos, Acheronta movebo.
...the familiar ritual of institutional self-absolution...
...for protecting them, by mock trial, from punishment...
"IF GOD DIDN'T WANT TO HELP AMERICA, THEN WE WOULD HAVE Hillary Clinton"!!"let them search you,touch you,violate your Rights,just don't be a dick!"~ cdc482"For Wales. Why Richard, it profits a man nothing to give his soul for the whole world. But for Wales?"All my life I've been at the mercy of men just following orders... Never again!~Erik LehnsherrThere's nothing wrong with stopping people randomly, especially near bars, restaurants etc.~Velho
I'm not sure how that works.... try here:
http://www.dshs.wa.gov/pdf/ms/forms/18_334.pdf
'We endorse the idea of voluntarism; self-responsibility: Family, friends, and churches to solve problems, rather than saying that some monolithic government is going to make you take care of yourself and be a better person. It's a preposterous notion: It never worked, it never will. The government can't make you a better person; it can't make you follow good habits.' - Ron Paul 1988
Awareness is the Root of Liberation Revolution is Action upon Revelation
'Resistance and Disobedience in Economic Activity is the Most Moral Human Action Possible' - SEK3
Flectere si nequeo superos, Acheronta movebo.
...the familiar ritual of institutional self-absolution...
...for protecting them, by mock trial, from punishment...
"Barack Obama is the father of my child"
"Sorry, fellows, the rebellion is off. We couldn't get a rebellion permit."
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Violence will not save us. Let us love one another, for love is from God.
So, tired of the patriarchy.
Forcing that woman to lie! just to get free money. What a horrible experience for her.
The situation is actually even more f-ed up than the erroneous headline implies. Listen to the whole clip, the state wants $30k from him to cover the cost of welfare benefits that were fraudulently taken out in his name by a woman who openly admits she conducted the fraud - a fraud which she perpetrated by falsely claiming he was the father. A second act of fraud was committed by the process server, who indicated the court papers were served-but-refused, when in fact the man was in jail at the time and thus not at the address where the server claimed they were refused. There was an additional $70k in child support which has apparently been lifted, but they still want the $30k.
It's nice that the mother is trying to help clear his name, but shouldn't the state be going after HER for defrauding the state?
The argument they're making against the not-dad is literally "Your ex defrauded us, and we fell for it, and now you're gonna pay."
I'm glad a lawyer stepped up to help him.
DETROIT, MI -- A Michigan man could go to jail for failing to pay child support. But the child he's accused of not paying for isn't even his, according to WXYZ in Detroit.
Carnell Alexander walked into the Frank Murphy Hall of Justice Friday, knowing in moments he could lose his freedom. Though DNA tests have proven the child isn't his, Alexander still owes more than $30,000 to the state because the child's mother used his name as the father to get welfare benefits.
Under Michigan law, that means Alexander owes child support. But an attorney who saw Alexander's story on the news wanted to help.
"I'm just trying to help him with his future," said attorney Cherika Harris.
"I'm almost homeless. I'm almost in jail. I am out of work," said Alexander. "My money is being threatened to be taken."
Alexander says the law needs to be changed, so when this happens -- as it often does -- other men don't become dad by default.
"We can be defaulted into being a father of a child that is not ours," he said. "I don't understand that law, but it is the law in place."
At court on Friday, Alexander wasn't sent to jail. But his case does remain open.
http://6abc.com/news/man-may-be-jail...nt-his/490355/
I would never pay a damned cent to the single mother of a bastard abomination. This deserves a Killdozer.
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Another blow against the patriarchy! If it wasn't for feminists, who would extort the men?
Judge Orders Detroit Man To Pay $30K In Child Support — Even Though He’s Not The Father
DETROIT (WWJ/AP) - A Detroit man has been ordered to pay $30,000 in back child support for his ex-girlfriend’s child — even though he’s not the father.
Carnell Alexander brought his case to Wayne County Circuit Court with hopes for a fix. Instead, Judge Kathleen McCarthy told him Tuesday he waited too long to challenge the situation and “failed to take this matter seriously.”
Alexander said the paternity case started in the 1980s when the woman gave his name to a case worker so she could get assistance for her baby, who was born in 1987.
The woman agrees that Alexander wasn’t the father and a DNA test taken in 2013 backs that up. But that wasn’t enough to sway McCarthy, who ruled that despite the case being decades old, Alexander still has to pay.
More challenges are planned. Alexander’s lawyer Cherika Harris said an arrest warrant due to unpaid child support has since been dropped.
“To continue to harass and burden him to pay for a child that is not his, when they know who the real father is now, I don’t understand this,” Harris told WXYZ-TV.
Alexander said he first learned he was considered a deadbeat dad during a traffic stop when an officer told him there was a warrant for his arrest.
He was accused of ignoring an earlier summons in the paternity case. Alexander said he was in prison when the process server appeared at his father’s home.
“I had no knowledge that I had a child support case against me,” he said.
http://detroit.cbslocal.com/2015/02/...ot-the-father/
And on topic, this is absolute bull$#@! and further proves that across this nation, family courts continue to $#@! fathers with a pointy gavel. Where's the sympathy from the community for this guy? The outrage? Can we get a slogan or some tee shirts in support?
No?
This is why, if I had to do it all over again, I would never had applied for a marriage license. The state enters into your marriage as a third party.
In reality it is a sick and twisted ménage à trois. It was always about control.
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LOL @ "Jury of your peers".Instead, Judge Kathleen McCarthy told him Tuesday he waited too long to challenge the situation and “failed to take this matter seriously.”
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What I meant is quite the opposite of what you seemed to glean; it is because men have become weak, pathetic and increasingly separated from our aggressive nature that feminism has risen.
Women of course, are victims of feminism. Having an ideology that says you should be attracted to boot-licking, head-nodding, pussified beta-males when they have a biology that rejects all of that is a terrible place to be. Feminists say "patriarchy hurts men too", but as per usual for feminists, they have it totally backward; it's feminism that hurts women too. Despite this, I certainly won't claim that they're the main victims; that spot is held by men, no doubt.
What I will claim is that men are the cause, as we are with all political ideologies. Women are a tribal animal that soaks up the ideologies of the people around them; that's why women on campus tend to be so liberal. When they fall in love with a man, they start to move toward his point of view, not necessarily because it's a reasoned, rational position, but because she's in love with him. It is inevitably men who are the vanguards of "socially acceptable" ideologies. If modern men weren't such capitulating, sniveling little $#@!wads, feminism wouldn't have anywhere near the kind of universal cultural penetration it has. Mass rejection of feminist ideology by men would've left it relegated to a curiosity instead of the all-encompassing cultural cancer it is. Without the mass-conversion of men to feminist ideas, it would've been a single generational novelty that would've flared out long ago.
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