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    Exclamation Pulling Your Plug - What this electric car business is REALLY all about.

    Pulling Your Plug

    https://www.ericpetersautos.com/2022...ing-your-plug/

    By eric - March 25, 2022

    Electric cars don’t just plug in. They can also be unplugged – so to speak – and not necessarily by their owners.

    Lost in the Oceania-is-at-war-with Eastasia mass formation psychosis now forming over Keeeeeeeev! was a telling Tweet that appeared – and disappeared – urging Elon Musk to remotely disable every Tesla in Russia, so as to teach the Russians a lesson.

    One lost on Americans.

    Electric cars will tether Americans not merely to electrical outlets but to a leash – the other end of it held by those who have the ability to yank it, at their pleasure. Like Elon Musk, who is considered by some to be a kind of libertarian techno-hero a la Tony Stark, the fictitious Iron Man. But if so, why would he design electric cars that are connected cars?

    Cars that can be disconnected – for any reason – at any time?

    Many such reasons can be imagined – among them that Elon is the scion of a family of managerial technocrats who have been working on ways to manage us for the past 100 years.

    All that’s needed for them to succeed is the tech (check) and the excuse.

    As for instance, the next “pandemic.”

    During the last one, now waning, it was harder to lock down the populace because people were still mobile. This writer was able to defy the lock-down orders issued by the state Gesundheitsfuhrer – Ralph “Coonman” Northam – by getting in his unplugged and thus disconnected truck and driving it the 30 miles to the coffee shop he wanted to support by showing up to buy coffee. If he’d had a plugged-in/connected electric truck, it would have been easy to lock it down – by transmitting an “update” as these ethereal remote-commands are styled.

    Understand – before it’s too late – that this is one of the main reasons why electric vehicles are being so aggressively shoved down our throats (by shoving non-electric cars off the market; that’s being done via regulations which are making it increasingly difficult to offer any vehicle not at least partially electric). It is for precisely the same reason that digital money is also being aggressively pushed. Both take control away from you and endow those who now control you with the power to coerce you by implicitly threatening you at all times with what amounts to loss of privileges as the price of disobedience, at any time.

    The technology and the technological infrastructure already exists, to do this. Everything that is online, for instance, is or can be instantly known. And punished. Your views, for instance – as via your Tweets, comments or (as in the case of people such as this writer) your published thoughts. Any Wrongthinkful thought expressed online can trigger a punishment meted out via anything else that is “online” – such as your electric car. Such as the electric power that is now also connected, online.

    Your money.

    Everything intertwined online and over-the-air being so much easier to centrally control.

    Your thoughts – and your actions – via your mobility. Intertwined with your ability to buy and sell. All conditional upon your obedience, expressed overtly – as by wearing a Face Diaper when “mandated.” Also implicitly, as by knowing you’d better not publicly say you don’t “stand with” Keeeeeev! or whatever other thing it’s made clear it’s obligatory to support or at least, not question out loud.

    Understand this.

    Electric vehicles are the essence of this. They are not – as is often disingenuously (or simply, ignorantly) styled, “simpler” vehicles than engined vehicles. Yes, certainly, electrics have fewer moving parts. But it is their electronically controlled part – the battery pack – which is the critical part.

    It can be “updated” – as in, via the airwaves – to grant its owner more range, as was revealed when Tesla so graciously did just that a few years back, as a hurricane bore down on Florida and Tesla owners were worried they might not have enough range to escape from Florida.

    That was nice. But implicit in that is not-so-nice. The same ability to remotely increase an EV’s range can also be used to reduce it. To zero, if those who control it want to so reduce it.

    And there is nothing you can do about it, if they do.

    If you disconnect the car from connectivity, your EV may not work at all – kind of like the individual Borg (Star Trek reference) separated from the collective.

    Non-electric cars are also increasingly vulnerable to being unplugged, too – since many of the newer models are also set up to receive “updates” (that is, instructions) remotely, over which you have no say-so. The car receives – and obeys.

    And so do you – if you own such a car.

    But EVs are uniquely and more completely controllable because of what makes them go and also what they need in order to go. That being electricity – which is not under your control in the way that fuel (gas and diesel) is, once bought. Electricity isn’t stored. It flows, in real time – continuously. Until it stops flowing. As when the power is cut off.

    Then there is no electricity.

    Maybe you capture your own – via panels and such. Which won’t be enough – unless you have an array capable of catching a huge amount of it. Which few if any homes have.

    And even if you do catch it enough, your EV can still catch an “update” – and then it won’t matter how much electricity you have. It will be like having a 100 gallon of drum for a car with a locked-up engine.

    This is where things are headed. Unless they’re stopped. And that will only happen if enough people finally understand what this electric car business is really all about.
    Another mark of a tyrant is that he likes foreigners better than citizens, and lives with them and invites them to his table; for the one are enemies, but the Others enter into no rivalry with him. - Aristotle's Politics Book 5 Part 11



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    The general pattern of the tryant-mind is to centralize and control all resources and then divvy them out to the unwashed-masses by temporary permit.

    The transport and energy infrastructure illustrates this very well. Another distributed resource they want to try to control is computation. This is why they love smartphones, because the physical limitations of a smartphone guarantee that there is only a certain amount of onboard computation it will ever be able to do. Even tablets and laptops are OK because they are very constrained computing environments. Desktop computing, however, they hate. If you have the spare cash for a DGX-2 machine-learning box from Nvidia, for example, you can literally run a supercomputer on your desk. You'll need a big desk. And a lot of other expensive equipment. Basically, you need a proper server closet. But you get the point. There must be JUST ONE RING to rule them all. You can't have people just wandering about, all willy-nilly, wearing rings forged in Mount Doom. If an ICE is like the heart, a standalone desktop computer is like the brain. The machine men with machine minds can't stand the thought of you owning your own body, mind and will. No, it belongs to the Clowns, obviously...

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    Behold a vehicle they cannot shut down with a dozen computer keystrokes.



    Behold a vehicle they can shut down with a dozen keystrokes.



    Furthermore, the former can be recharged with any generator; the latter won't run on pure homebrew white lightning--at least, not for long.

    Electricity isn't the issue here. Neither is computer engine management. Connectivity is. That, and fuel, or power, or whatever you want to call it. Why the war on diesel? Because twenty acres of sunflowers will run your Volkswagen TDI with no problems, all year long, but pure alcohol washes the lubricating oil off your cylinder walls, and eats your fuel lines for breakfast. Who among us has both an oil well and a catalytic cracker in the back yard?

    The things about electrics are, they limit our range (not because of their short range alone, but because the recharge time is so much longer than refuel time), these people are heavily invested in things like cadmium and nickel, and most of all, because it's easier for natural gas to produce electricity than power a vehicle. And we all know how heavily invested they are in gas (can you say Burisma?). Remote off switches are a different matter. Everything with OnStar has them, in the name of theft protection, and they are far from unique in that respect.
    Last edited by acptulsa; 03-27-2022 at 01:36 PM.
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    We believe our lying eyes...

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    If we put the two (or maybe more) ideas together you can have drivers that receive greater range and thus more electricity depending on if their spending habits of using digital dollars when their credit scores or social scores are compliant to the states' needs.

    Last edited by Pauls' Revere; 03-27-2022 at 09:16 AM.

    We're being governed ruled by a geriatric Alzheimer patient/puppet whose strings are being pulled by an elitist oligarchy who believe they can manage the world... imagine the utter maniacal, sociopathic hubris!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pauls' Revere View Post
    If we put the two (or maybe more) ideas together you can have drivers that receive greater range and thus more electricity depending on if their spending habits of using digital dollars when their credit scores or social scores are compliant to the states' needs.

    Whatever else you say about them, the Clown-globalists are absolutely transparent and predictable....


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    The ability to resist is the ability to travel.

    When the coming STARVATION hits (probably August, even Biden confirms this), people will try to flee where food is absent.

    The ability to travel means LIFE OR DEATH when the food is gone because you can travel to where there is food.

    - Food is a Weapon
    - Being able to deny people the ability to travel to food is also a Weapon
    - Money is a Weapon
    - Media is a Weapon
    - Medicine is a Weapon
    - Vaccines are a Weapon
    - FEAR is a Weapon
    - STUPIDITY is a Weapon
    - IGNORANCE of the nature of Coin and Credit is a Weapon
    - ANYTHING they give you for FREE is a Weapon AGAINST YOU

    Their real goal is to KILL 7 BILLION people
    Last edited by DamianTV; 03-27-2022 at 01:35 PM.
    1776 > 1984

    The FAILURE of the United States Government to operate and maintain an
    Honest Money System , which frees the ordinary man from the clutches of the money manipulators, is the single largest contributing factor to the World's current Economic Crisis.

    The Elimination of Privacy is the Architecture of Genocide

    Belief, Money, and Violence are the three ways all people are controlled

    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Our central bank is not privately owned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DamianTV View Post
    Their real goal is to KILL 7 BILLION people
    We've both been here 15 years.

    Did you ever think, back then, it would become so clear and out in the open?

    Or that people still would not give a $#@!...having become so cynical, self-loathing, cosmopolitan, gaslighted and world weary that they would just as lief die, than fight to survive?

    I didn't.
    Another mark of a tyrant is that he likes foreigners better than citizens, and lives with them and invites them to his table; for the one are enemies, but the Others enter into no rivalry with him. - Aristotle's Politics Book 5 Part 11

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    Everybody's electric bill would skyrocket if they owned a EV.
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    Calvin Coolidge



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    I think someone should make an EV... that mines bitcoins.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    We've both been here 15 years.

    Did you ever think, back then, it would become so clear and out in the open?

    Or that people still would not give a $#@!...having become so cynical, self-loathing, cosmopolitan, gaslighted and world weary that they would just as lief die, than fight to survive?

    I didn't.
    There is a famous scene from the movie from which you have clipped your avatar, where William Wallace uses brilliant counter-cavalry tactics through a combination of deception and timing... the famous anti-cavalry pikes. If you will recall, the word he uses is "HOLD". Timing is everything. Running out the middle of the battlefield all Don Quixote and tilting at windmills will get you nowhere but dead. Don't mistake wary, alert readiness for slumber, apathy or cowardice. The enemy must be struck, all at once, at the precise moment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheTexan View Post
    I think someone should make an EV... that mines bitcoins.

    ZDNet: Tesla’s next business: Turning your solar roof and EV into Bitcoin mines

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    We've both been here 15 years.

    Did you ever think, back then, it would become so clear and out in the open?

    Or that people still would not give a $#@!...having become so cynical, self-loathing, cosmopolitan, gaslighted and world weary that they would just as lief die, than fight to survive?

    I didn't.
    Back then, I did not foresee them being so open about their plans. Now they are FULLY out in the open and seemingly just flaunting it, and STILL people are still so self absorbed, narcissistic, and distracted to give a $#@!. I swear when, no longer an if, but when the jackboots come to black bag people in the middle of broad $#@!ing daylight, the only thing these idiots will do is tweet about it. "Yeah. Jack Boots got my neighbor. Heres some pics. Like or follow me for more updates" while sitting around in their underwear collecting unemployment and probably happy that their neighbors are gone so they can go steal whats left of their food.
    1776 > 1984

    The FAILURE of the United States Government to operate and maintain an
    Honest Money System , which frees the ordinary man from the clutches of the money manipulators, is the single largest contributing factor to the World's current Economic Crisis.

    The Elimination of Privacy is the Architecture of Genocide

    Belief, Money, and Violence are the three ways all people are controlled

    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Our central bank is not privately owned.

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    Yeah I had enough of all this. My only car now is my 67 Chevy. Getting a little bit of a miss with AC on. Going to give it a full tune up, change the points and condenser. Decided to put a new coil in just in case. Total cost $67 in parts. Can fix it in less than an hour with a few wrenches and a screwdriver. It performs the same function as a Tesla, gets me around town and to the store. Why do I need any more?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ClaytonB View Post
    There is a famous scene from the movie from which you have clipped your avatar, where William Wallace uses brilliant counter-cavalry tactics through a combination of deception and timing... the famous anti-cavalry pikes. If you will recall, the word he uses is "HOLD". Timing is everything. Running out the middle of the battlefield all Don Quixote and tilting at windmills will get you nowhere but dead. Don't mistake wary, alert readiness for slumber, apathy or cowardice. The enemy must be struck, all at once, at the precise moment.
    Great scene...one of the best threads I ever posted here is based on that scene.



    If you are suggesting that millions (billions) of people are standing by, watching the global oppressors charge down on them with withering cavalry, while waiting to the last second, with steely resolve, to strike back before being macerated into hamburger...well...I don't know what to make of that.

    Other than to say to time to "Hold!" is long past.

    Stage One of the bio weapon "Great Culling" has already been released, killing millions world wide, and it is still ongoing.

    Many millions more are going to die in the near future from "vaccine" complications or reagent reactions.

    And nobody lifts a finger in defense or retribution, nobody is held to account, everybody walks, from the criminals of the Chinese Communist Party, to Fauchi and Gates and their ilk, all the way to low level death merchants like Andrew Cuomo and Gretchen Whitmer.
    Another mark of a tyrant is that he likes foreigners better than citizens, and lives with them and invites them to his table; for the one are enemies, but the Others enter into no rivalry with him. - Aristotle's Politics Book 5 Part 11

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    If you are suggesting that millions (billions) of people are standing by, watching the global oppressors charge down on them with withering cavalry, while waiting to the last second, with steely resolve, to strike back before being macerated into hamburger...well...I don't know what to make of that.
    When he opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of those who had been slain because of the word of God and the testimony they had maintained. They called out in a loud voice, “How long, Sovereign Lord, holy and true, until you judge the inhabitants of the earth and avenge our blood?”Then each of them was given a white robe, and they were told to wait a little longer, until the full number of their fellow servants, their brothers and sisters,[e] were killed just as they had been. (Rev. 6:9-11)

    And I saw an angel standing in the sun, who cried in a loud voice to all the birds flying in midair, “Come, gather together for the great supper of God, so that you may eat the flesh of kings, generals, and the mighty, of horses and their riders, and the flesh of all people, free and slave, great and small.” Then I saw the beast and the kings of the earth and their armies gathered together to wage war against the rider on the horse and his army. But the beast was captured, and with it the false prophet who had performed the signs on its behalf. With these signs he had deluded those who had received the mark of the beast and worshiped its image. The two of them were thrown alive into the fiery lake of burning sulfur. The rest were killed with the sword coming out of the mouth of the rider on the horse, and all the birds gorged themselves on their flesh. (Rev. 19:17-21)
    Every great action movie ends with what... an epic final battle. Sure, there are skirmishes and provocations and various standoffs that occur along the way, but there is only one battle in which both sides commit their full force. Not only does it make for great story-telling, but it's elementary war strategy and every major war in the history of the world has played out this way. I have as many reasons as anyone on earth to feel that the General is just asleep at Headquarters. Down here in the trenches, it really seems that way. "Fine, Mr. Magic Savior Guy is going to fly in at the last moment and make everything right. Until then, we're just down here getting slaughtered for nothing." It's the wrong way to think about it. Once again, think about the war campaigns of history... the wise general doesn't just march forward and throw his full force into the first offer of battle the other side makes. Invariably, it's a trap, that's the only reason they stopped and offered battle. Strategy requires many minor skirmishes and "feeling out" of the enemies positions and response. Only when his strengths and weaknesses are at least somewhat understood can entry into full battle be made. Only one side walks away the victor, the stakes are all-or-nothing, there is no room for error.

    So yes, it really is like that. And not as a metaphor; as tangible, material reality.

    Other than to say to time to "Hold!" is long past.

    Stage One of the bio weapon "Great Culling" has already been released, killing millions world wide, and it is still ongoing.
    As difficult as it may be to believe, they were anticipated. Effectively. They (Deep State) are toying with monsters they do not understand.

    Many millions more are going to die in the near future from "vaccine" complications or reagent reactions.

    And nobody lifts a finger in defense or retribution, nobody is held to account, everybody walks, from the criminals of the Chinese Communist Party, to Fauchi and Gates and their ilk, all the way to low level death merchants like Andrew Cuomo and Gretchen Whitmer.
    "The devil is in the details." Quite literally. One of his primary strategies is baiting "close enough"-justice. "But we don't have concrete proof that he was screwing children on LSJ." "Who cares, it's close enough. Shoot him." That's how you end up doing the devil's dirty work for him. So yes, it's going to come down to the nitty-gritty details... with sniper-precision...

    Last edited by ClaytonB; 03-27-2022 at 10:21 PM.

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    I hope you're right...
    Another mark of a tyrant is that he likes foreigners better than citizens, and lives with them and invites them to his table; for the one are enemies, but the Others enter into no rivalry with him. - Aristotle's Politics Book 5 Part 11



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    Quote Originally Posted by DamianTV View Post
    Back then, I did not foresee them being so open about their plans. Now they are FULLY out in the open and seemingly just flaunting it, and STILL people are still so self absorbed, narcissistic, and distracted to give a $#@!. I swear when, no longer an if, but when the jackboots come to black bag people in the middle of broad $#@!ing daylight, the only thing these idiots will do is tweet about it. "Yeah. Jack Boots got my neighbor. Heres some pics. Like or follow me for more updates" while sitting around in their underwear collecting unemployment and probably happy that their neighbors are gone so they can go steal whats left of their food.
    GOOD

    Makes it easier to see who the true Enemy is...


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    This is why I'm not selling my 87 Caravan.
    "When Sombart says: "Capitalism is born from the money-loan", I should like to add to this: Capitalism actually exists only in the money-loan;" - Theodor Fritsch

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    We've both been here 15 years.

    Did you ever think, back then, it would become so clear and out in the open?

    Or that people still would not give a $#@!...having become so cynical, self-loathing, cosmopolitan, gaslighted and world weary that they would just as lief die, than fight to survive?

    I didn't.
    Not only not give a $#@! but scream even louder for more government!

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    People are much easier to control if you restrict their personal mobility. Pricing them out of the market is a good way to accomplish that. "Pulling their plug" isceven better.
    Chris

    "Government ... does not exist of necessity, but rather by virtue of a tragic, almost comical combination of klutzy, opportunistic terrorism against sitting ducks whom it pretends to shelter, plus our childish phobia of responsibility, praying to be exempted from the hard reality of life on life's terms." Wolf DeVoon

    "...Make America Great Again. I'm interested in making American FREE again. Then the greatness will come automatically."Ron Paul

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Pulling Your Plug

    https://www.ericpetersautos.com/2022...ing-your-plug/

    By eric - March 25, 2022

    Electric cars don’t just plug in. They can also be unplugged – so to speak – and not necessarily by their owners.

    Lost in the Oceania-is-at-war-with Eastasia mass formation psychosis now forming over Keeeeeeeev! was a telling Tweet that appeared – and disappeared – urging Elon Musk to remotely disable every Tesla in Russia, so as to teach the Russians a lesson.

    One lost on Americans.

    Electric cars will tether Americans not merely to electrical outlets but to a leash – the other end of it held by those who have the ability to yank it, at their pleasure. Like Elon Musk, who is considered by some to be a kind of libertarian techno-hero a la Tony Stark, the fictitious Iron Man. But if so, why would he design electric cars that are connected cars?

    Cars that can be disconnected – for any reason – at any time?

    Many such reasons can be imagined – among them that Elon is the scion of a family of managerial technocrats who have been working on ways to manage us for the past 100 years.

    All that’s needed for them to succeed is the tech (check) and the excuse.

    As for instance, the next “pandemic.”

    During the last one, now waning, it was harder to lock down the populace because people were still mobile. This writer was able to defy the lock-down orders issued by the state Gesundheitsfuhrer – Ralph “Coonman” Northam – by getting in his unplugged and thus disconnected truck and driving it the 30 miles to the coffee shop he wanted to support by showing up to buy coffee. If he’d had a plugged-in/connected electric truck, it would have been easy to lock it down – by transmitting an “update” as these ethereal remote-commands are styled.

    Understand – before it’s too late – that this is one of the main reasons why electric vehicles are being so aggressively shoved down our throats (by shoving non-electric cars off the market; that’s being done via regulations which are making it increasingly difficult to offer any vehicle not at least partially electric). It is for precisely the same reason that digital money is also being aggressively pushed. Both take control away from you and endow those who now control you with the power to coerce you by implicitly threatening you at all times with what amounts to loss of privileges as the price of disobedience, at any time.

    The technology and the technological infrastructure already exists, to do this. Everything that is online, for instance, is or can be instantly known. And punished. Your views, for instance – as via your Tweets, comments or (as in the case of people such as this writer) your published thoughts. Any Wrongthinkful thought expressed online can trigger a punishment meted out via anything else that is “online” – such as your electric car. Such as the electric power that is now also connected, online.

    Your money.

    Everything intertwined online and over-the-air being so much easier to centrally control.

    Your thoughts – and your actions – via your mobility. Intertwined with your ability to buy and sell. All conditional upon your obedience, expressed overtly – as by wearing a Face Diaper when “mandated.” Also implicitly, as by knowing you’d better not publicly say you don’t “stand with” Keeeeeev! or whatever other thing it’s made clear it’s obligatory to support or at least, not question out loud.

    Understand this.

    Electric vehicles are the essence of this. They are not – as is often disingenuously (or simply, ignorantly) styled, “simpler” vehicles than engined vehicles. Yes, certainly, electrics have fewer moving parts. But it is their electronically controlled part – the battery pack – which is the critical part.

    It can be “updated” – as in, via the airwaves – to grant its owner more range, as was revealed when Tesla so graciously did just that a few years back, as a hurricane bore down on Florida and Tesla owners were worried they might not have enough range to escape from Florida.

    That was nice. But implicit in that is not-so-nice. The same ability to remotely increase an EV’s range can also be used to reduce it. To zero, if those who control it want to so reduce it.

    And there is nothing you can do about it, if they do.

    If you disconnect the car from connectivity, your EV may not work at all – kind of like the individual Borg (Star Trek reference) separated from the collective.

    Non-electric cars are also increasingly vulnerable to being unplugged, too – since many of the newer models are also set up to receive “updates” (that is, instructions) remotely, over which you have no say-so. The car receives – and obeys.

    And so do you – if you own such a car.

    But EVs are uniquely and more completely controllable because of what makes them go and also what they need in order to go. That being electricity – which is not under your control in the way that fuel (gas and diesel) is, once bought. Electricity isn’t stored. It flows, in real time – continuously. Until it stops flowing. As when the power is cut off.

    Then there is no electricity.

    Maybe you capture your own – via panels and such. Which won’t be enough – unless you have an array capable of catching a huge amount of it. Which few if any homes have.

    And even if you do catch it enough, your EV can still catch an “update” – and then it won’t matter how much electricity you have. It will be like having a 100 gallon of drum for a car with a locked-up engine.

    This is where things are headed. Unless they’re stopped. And that will only happen if enough people finally understand what this electric car business is really all about.
    Every GM car has had OnStar in it for the past 25 years whether you wanted it or not. https://www.gmc.com/connectivity-technology/onstar

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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    OnStar
    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    OnStar
    Think we're getting through? Electric cars are emerging as a handy scapegoat for things they didn't originate, and which aren't limited to them. When Washington "throws us a bone" and backs off this electric insanity, how many people will believe these kill switches disappeared with them?
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    We believe our lying eyes...

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    Every GM car has had OnStar in it for the past 25 years whether you wanted it or not. https://www.gmc.com/connectivity-technology/onstar
    Trust me, we're both well aware of that fact. I posted Eric's articles about that years ago.

    With EVs it will be ubiquitous, no one escapes.

    And it will be more encompassing...I envision whole states or counties having their EVs remotely "bricked" for any number of reasons, from grid collapses to child abduction alerts.
    Another mark of a tyrant is that he likes foreigners better than citizens, and lives with them and invites them to his table; for the one are enemies, but the Others enter into no rivalry with him. - Aristotle's Politics Book 5 Part 11

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Trust me, we're both well aware of that fact. I posted Eric's articles about that years ago.
    Cool!

    With EVs it will be ubiquitous, no one escapes.
    Are you sure about that?



    Build your own and you can make sure Elon Musk doesn't have a kill switch.

    And it will be more encompassing...I envision whole states or counties having their EVs remotely "bricked" for any number of reasons, from grid collapses to child abduction alerts.
    Any car with a computer in it can be hacked. Antilock brakes can be manipulated to cause wrecks etc. Where do I find a car under 20 years old that doesn't have a computer in it?

    9/11 Thermate experiments

    Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I

    "I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"

    "We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul

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    Jer. 11:18-20. "The Kingdom of God has come upon you." -- Matthew 12:28

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  31. #27
    Pulling Your Plug - What this electric car business is REALLY all about.
    Cars ... money ... thermostats ...

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    • "When law and morality are in contradiction to each other, the citizen finds himself in the cruel alternative of either losing his moral sense, or of losing his respect for the law."
      -- The Law (p. 54)
    • "Government is that great fiction, through which everybody endeavors to live at the expense of everybody else."
      -- Government (p. 99)
    • "[W]ar is always begun in the interest of the few, and at the expense of the many."
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  32. #28
    I heard through the grapevine that the Aussie government is going to end EVs by outlawing new car loans for non-EVs.

    The irony of that is that the car loan market is already a predatory loan-sharking system backed by the central bank (thus anti-competition) and the main reason why new car prices are so high is that people are bidding on cars with future-cash through "financing". Which is just insane. Anyway, so they're planning to push the anti-fossil-fuel agenda by putting an end to their own predatory loan-sharking system....
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    Quote Originally Posted by ClaytonB View Post
    I heard through the grapevine that the Aussie government is going to end EVs by outlawing new car loans for non-EVs.

    The irony of that is that the car loan market is already a predatory loan-sharking system backed by the central bank (thus anti-competition) and the main reason why new car prices are so high is that people are bidding on cars with future-cash through "financing". Which is just insane. Anyway, so they're planning to push the anti-fossil-fuel agenda by putting an end to their own predatory loan-sharking system....
    Already done...or started anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    *SMH*
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