IS executes American journalist.

[69360]

Blowback is starting. Obama was stupid to get the US involved in this.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...arning-US.html

[Crashland]

This is bad.

You can watch the full video of course if you know where to look. It was quite disturbing. But the ISIS member basically just flatly lays it out, calls out Obama and says they are doing this because of the airstrikes. Stuff like this if it continues though can easily be used as another excuse for another full blown war...

[Kords21]

We didn't learn our lesson from the 80's when we trained and funded Bin laden, so why should we expect any different when we train and fund so called "Freedom fighters" in Syria? While, sure this is blowback from our airstrikes, but this is a group we're largely responsible for creating. You can't play both sides of a war and not expect to get burned by it. Just another example in a long line of examples of a very incompetent foreign policy that will take years to unwind, if that's even possible. The defense contractors should be happy though, another drum to add to their war drums solo.

[qh4dotcom]

Blowback is starting. Obama was stupid to get the US involved in this.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...arning-US.html

It was even more stupid of the beheaded American to go to Iraq....He went looking for trouble and found it. Go blame his family for not talking him out of going.

[69360]

It was even more stupid of the beheaded American to go to Iraq....He went looking for trouble and found it. Go blame his family for not talking him out of going.

Both were not smart moves. But Obama dropping bombs was many times stupider.

[Muwahid]

This is confirming my worst fears guys.

I have been rather anxious since America started their campaign against TIS.

This is not Al Qaeda, this is for all intents and purposes a state, a country, with an army of nearly 100,000, with literally billions of dollars, with tanks, planes, helicopters, scuds, everything.

They weren't attacking, or targeting Americans. They had no reason to, no excuse to, people would have blamed them infact because it would bring a justified reaction from America to their doorsteps.

What a stupid stupid move for Obama, this is GOING TO CAUSE BLOWBACK. Americans need to get their heads out of their ***es and realize you can't just go cowboy mode all over the world.

[Crashland]

This is confirming my worst fears guys.

I have been rather anxious since America started their campaign against TIS.

This is not Al Qaeda, this is for all intents and purposes a state, a country, with an army of nearly 100,000, with literally billions of dollars, with tanks, planes, helicopters, scuds, everything.

They weren't attacking, or targeting Americans. They had no reason to, no excuse to, people would have blamed them infact because it would bring a justified reaction from America to their doorsteps.

What a stupid stupid move for Obama, this is GOING TO CAUSE BLOWBACK. Americans need to get their heads out of their ***es and realize you can't just go cowboy mode all over the world.

If you ask me, both sides are trash. ISIS doesn't have enough power to attack our military, so they take it out on innocent people. Two wrongs don't make a right, but both the US and ISIS think that it does. Every wrong serves as a justification for even more wrongs in a downward spiral.

[Muwahid]

If you ask me, both sides are trash. ISIS doesn't have enough power to attack our military, so they take it out on innocent people. Two wrongs don't make a right, but both the US and ISIS think that it does. Every wrong serves as a justification for even more wrongs in a downward spiral.

Sure I agree, no need to target civilians. But there's a certain mentality especially for war torn Middle Easterners which is essentially a policy of an eye for an eye. It's to say "if you're going to target our civilians we'll target yours" when 9/11 happened even ordinary Arabs who weren't al qaeda or hardline islamists, would say America deserved it for going around the world bombing civilians left and right.

Osama said it after 9/11 that "America, and those who live in America will not dream of security until we live in security in Palestine" as wrong as it is to kill civilians, when your own people and civilians are being killed, those lines of morality unfortunately start to blur.

I want to see an end to the attacks on both sides because this type of escalation literally could cause a WWIII scenario. The Middle East is pretty much up for grabs right now with so many countries in turmoil, Iran wants a piece of it, America wants piece of it, Saudi Arabia wants a piece of it, Israel is continuing their policies to take Palestinian land.

[torchbearer]

Sure I agree, no need to target civilians. But there's a certain mentality especially for war torn Middle Easterners which is essentially a policy of an eye for an eye. It's to say "if you're going to target our civilians we'll target yours" when 9/11 happened even ordinary Arabs who weren't al qaeda or hardline islamists, would say America deserved it for going around the world bombing civilians left and right.

Osama said it after 9/11 that "America, and those who live in America will not dream of security until we live in security in Palestine" as wrong as it is to kill civilians, when your own people and civilians are being killed, those lines of morality unfortunately start to blur.

I want to see an end to the attacks on both sides because this type of escalation literally could cause a WWIII scenario. The Middle East is pretty much up for grabs right now with so many countries in turmoil, Iran wants a piece of it, America wants piece of it, Saudi Arabia wants a piece of it, Israel is continuing their policies to take Palestinian land.

you see what i see

[devil21]

Nothing to see here. Just building the pretext to turn the military attention back toward Syria....

[green73]

It was even more stupid of the beheaded American to go to Iraq....He went looking for trouble and found it. Go blame his family for not talking him out of going.

He went missing while working in Syria in 2012.

[Cleaner44]

If you ask me, both sides are trash. ISIS doesn't have enough power to attack our military, so they take it out on innocent people. Two wrongs don't make a right, but both the US and ISIS think that it does. Every wrong serves as a justification for even more wrongs in a downward spiral.

I am sure the Redcoats thought it was lame that the Americans didn't stand and fight all lined up in a field in broad daylight too.

Our government is killing hundreds of thousands of innocent people. They are going to fight with whatever means they can come up with. Playing by rules made up by super powers are meaningless to those that are being dominated.

The easy answer is to leave Iraq and not defend some embassy compound where we aren't wanted. The people of that region are much more in the right to want us to leave than we are to insist on staying and defending some consulate in Erbil.

[green73]

This is bad.

You can watch the full video of course if you know where to look. It was quite disturbing. But the ISIS member basically just flatly lays it out, calls out Obama and says they are doing this because of the airstrikes. Stuff like this if it continues though can easily be used as another excuse for another full blown war...

If you're in the UK, merely watching the video is considered an act of terror.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-28864083

[qh4dotcom]

He went missing while working in Syria in 2012.

Oh please....you talk like Syria is safer than Iraq....It was stupid of the beheaded American to go to Syria....He went looking for trouble and found it. Go blame his family for not talking him out of going.

[green73]

Oh please....you talk like Syria is safer than Iraq....It was stupid of the beheaded American to go to Syria....He went looking for trouble and found it. Go blame his family for not talking him out of going.

[Acala]

Is everyone sure this isn't a false flag?

[klamath]

Won't help their cause.

[presence]

Is everyone sure this isn't a false flag?

I watched it on liveleak... I didn't see any execution scene; there was no gore. Looked pretty hollywoodesqe to me:


A feed of "no blood" knife to throat sawing action.
Then a slide transition to a panaromic still shot of a lifeless headless body.


My tinfoil take:

CIA probably already knows the kid is 2 years dead and dust in the desert. Invented the whole video.
Family is in on it and gets a no disclosure contract, ability to "help" fight terrorism, and a fat government check.
The confession is a look alike agent; with light video edit.
The gore was never shown
The decapitated head was a photoshop job on a panaromic still frame.


of course it could be authentic...

I'm not sure which would be more $#@!ed up.

[Demigod]

I am torn between revenge for the airstrikes and staging a killing so the USA can get even more involved.Most of my suspicions come from that orange suit and why in the hell would you directly challenge the USA to a war.Every sane person would take the deal where the USA drops a few bombs here and there while you wait for the next conflict that will turn its attention opposite a direct confrontation with the USA + its proxies + Russia and Iran and their proxies.

[Shane Harris]

I am torn between revenge for the airstrikes and staging a killing so the USA can get even more involved.Most of my suspicions come from that orange suit and why in the hell would you directly challenge the USA to a war.Every sane person would take the deal where the USA drops a few bombs here and there while you wait for the next conflict that will turn its attention opposite a direct confrontation with the USA + its proxies + Russia and Iran and their proxies.

unless us invading is exactly what they want.

[Muwahid]

I am torn between revenge for the airstrikes and staging a killing so the USA can get even more involved.Most of my suspicions come from that orange suit and why in the hell would you directly challenge the USA to a war.Every sane person would take the deal where the USA drops a few bombs here and there while you wait for the next conflict that will turn its attention opposite a direct confrontation with the USA + its proxies + Russia and Iran and their proxies.

Osama bin Laden knew they couldn't sail the seven seas, and invade America, or fly bombs over American military targets, so he coaxed America into wars. Since then "jihadis" have gone from a select group of "weird bearded men" to literally whole countries being turned into Jihadis (Afgh, Syria, Iraq, Libya, etc).

So IS might have similar goals, to coax America into another war they can't win. You can't win a war when the whole population is against you, because even if you suppress those enemies, once you leave, they come right back, probably stronger, with more support.

But really this situation was started by America, because IS targetted no americans, so this appears to be simple retaliation, they figure they're already at war with America, so they may as well retaliate.

[Acala]

Osama bin Laden knew they couldn't sail the seven seas, and invade America, or fly bombs over American military targets, so he coaxed America into wars. Since then "jihadis" have gone from a select group of "weird bearded men" to literally whole countries being turned into Jihadis (Afgh, Syria, Iraq, Libya, etc).

So IS might have similar goals, to coax America into another war they can't win. You can't win a war when the whole population is against you, because even if you suppress those enemies, once you leave, they come right back, probably stronger, with more support.

But really this situation was started by America, because IS targetted no americans, so this appears to be simple retaliation, they figure they're already at war with America, so they may as well retaliate.

If Osama intended that, and I don't doubt it, he miscalculated. Although I would not call anything the US has done since 9/11 a victory, 9/11 certainly did not reduced American military presence in the Middle East. So if the goal was to send the US limping home like it did the USSR, mission not accomplished. I can't imagine anyone thinking that a single execution would derail the US military machine at this point. So why?

I'm not one to holler false flag everytime something bad happens. But when the "event" is so isolated and easy to control as this, I do ask "who benefits?". And if I can't see how the alleged perps benefit, I start to wondering. I don't buy the usual answer that they are stupid or insane. That's too facil. Somebody did this - whatever it is - for a strategic reason. So who benefits? The US military contractors benefit. Anyone who is afraid of IS benefits. I don't see any benefit for IS unless maybe for recruiting or troop morale?

On the other hand, maybe it IS just retaliation in anger. In which case, they actually ARE stupid or at least ignorant of how things work in a major industrial democracy dominated by the military industrial complex. Mitch McConnell and John McCain LOVE this.

[enhanced_deficit]

In other news from recent past:

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Blowback is starting. Obama was stupid to get the US involved in this.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...arning-US.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIRUeJYFZ94

Obama's $195 Million Aid Package for Al Qaeda-Led Syrian Rebels
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REUTERS
09/15/2013 02:43

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http://www.jpost.com/Middle-East/Syr...re-here-326110


Israel Rescues Al-Qaeda Terrorists From Syria

Fighters being treated in field hospitals and sent back to front lines

Paul Joseph Watson
May 9, 2013


Syria: The Strange US/Israel/Al-Qaeda Ménage à Trois

Daniel McAdams at 15:44 pm EDT on September 28, 2012

A little more than a week after the extremists linked to Al-Qaeda by our own US government set up and murdered Ambassador to Libya Chris Stevens, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton has announced that the United States would send an additional $45 million to the very same Al-Qaeda’s Syrian franchise.
Yes you read that right: The US is sending another $45 million to assist in Syria the same people it is fighting in Afghanistan and the same people who killed US Ambassador Chris Stevens in Libya.
Interestingly, the US, Israel, and Al-Qaeda all agree that the rebels in Syria, many of whom are foreign jihadists, must succeed in overthrowing the Assad government. That is like an all-you-can-eat luncheon buffet in front of hungry conspiracy theorists.

http://www.lewrockwell.com/lrc-blog/...enage-a-trois/

[pcosmar]

Won't help their cause.

Personally I could care less about "their Cause"..

But I would really love to see the US really lose dramatically and decisively.
It is overdue.

[Brian4Liberty]

Won't help their cause.

Yeah, apparently IS hasn't learned anything about PR or blow-back either.

Meanwhile, back at neoconservative headquarters, they are busy taking full advantage of this...

[Jamesiv1]

that video was stupid. Fake without a doubt.

[klamath]

Yeah, apparently IS hasn't learned anything about PR or blow-back either.

Meanwhile, back at neoconservative headquarters, they are busy taking full advantage of this...

Sad but true. I attribute IS and the isreali/palistian war for the raise of Bush and Christie in the polls.

[Root]

NJ state Senator Raymond J. Lesniak (D)

Barbarians! They should be wiped off the face of the earth.

https://www.facebook.com/SenatorLesn...32164983548411

[Muwahid]

If Osama intended that, and I don't doubt it, he miscalculated. Although I would not call anything the US has done since 9/11 a victory, 9/11 certainly did not reduced American military presence in the Middle East. So if the goal was to send the US limping home like it did the USSR, mission not accomplished. I can't imagine anyone thinking that a single execution would derail the US military machine at this point. So why?

I'm not one to holler false flag everytime something bad happens. But when the "event" is so isolated and easy to control as this, I do ask "who benefits?". And if I can't see how the alleged perps benefit, I start to wondering. I don't buy the usual answer that they are stupid or insane. That's too facil. Somebody did this - whatever it is - for a strategic reason. So who benefits? The US military contractors benefit. Anyone who is afraid of IS benefits. I don't see any benefit for IS unless maybe for recruiting or troop morale?

On the other hand, maybe it IS just retaliation in anger. In which case, they actually ARE stupid or at least ignorant of how things work in a major industrial democracy dominated by the military industrial complex. Mitch McConnell and John McCain LOVE this.

One theory i could suggest is, IS may be trying to persuade not the American government, but rather the American people because many Americans do not want a third Iraq war, and they do not want more American blood shed. Them showing the execution of one American civilian shows they will kill American civilians, everyone still remembers that day the twin towers fell, and no one wants to relive something like that, I think they're trying to send that message to Americans, so they pressure their government into not pursuing military intervention.

The entire proposition is scary though because I really do think IS is far more capable of mayhem and destruction than the original Al Qaeda under OBL. More money, more people, more organization, heck even more zeal.

[FloralScent]

Sure they did.