UndividedNations.com
LPPNews.com (LibertyProsperityPeace.com)
Both
We're right there in the middle right now determining objectives.
The Stellar Wind program that spies on everyone was put together with a similar spiral model of development.
4. Plan the next iteration.
We have been through 1-3.
Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
Ron Paul 2004
Registered Ron Paul supporter # 2202
It's all about Freedom
In a way, yes. We do have a nice base to springboard off of.
I don't like the first name, personally.
What is the actual project?
"Integrity means having to say things that people don't want to hear & especially to say things that the regime doesn't want to hear.” -Ron Paul
"Bathtub falls and police officers kill more Americans than terrorism, yet we've been asked to sacrifice our most sacred rights for fear of falling victim to it." -Edward Snowden
Either compete with the UN, FoxNews, or both.
on information?
You don't like Liberty Forest News Network?
"Integrity means having to say things that people don't want to hear & especially to say things that the regime doesn't want to hear.” -Ron Paul
"Bathtub falls and police officers kill more Americans than terrorism, yet we've been asked to sacrifice our most sacred rights for fear of falling victim to it." -Edward Snowden
You know I'm in!!Originally Posted by JoshLowry
The ultimate minority is the individual. Protect the individual from Democracy and you will protect all groups of individualsRightful liberty is unobstructed action according to our will within limits drawn around us by the equal rights of others. I do not add 'within the limits of the law' because law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the rights of the individual. - Thomas JeffersonI must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain.
- Bene Gesserit Litany Against Fear
Well, me too. I'm just trying to figure out what it is...
"Integrity means having to say things that people don't want to hear & especially to say things that the regime doesn't want to hear.” -Ron Paul
"Bathtub falls and police officers kill more Americans than terrorism, yet we've been asked to sacrifice our most sacred rights for fear of falling victim to it." -Edward Snowden
We could solicit help to spread whatever it is on twitter.
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edit, actually, looks like someone has already started: https://twitter.com/EconomicMayhem/s...06740836466688
I'm off to vote and get some work done. I'll check back on this thread later.
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"Integrity means having to say things that people don't want to hear & especially to say things that the regime doesn't want to hear.” -Ron Paul
"Bathtub falls and police officers kill more Americans than terrorism, yet we've been asked to sacrifice our most sacred rights for fear of falling victim to it." -Edward Snowden
undividednations has too much of a NWO global governance twang
I'd be really interested in a liberty news wiki project where multiple users could formulate and add links and quotes to the article / OP. Especially if we could employ AI/karma techniques for article promotion and anonymous article comments.
I could also see how RPF could more easily become a news portal than creating a whole new site.
Last edited by presence; 03-05-2013 at 12:39 PM.
'We endorse the idea of voluntarism; self-responsibility: Family, friends, and churches to solve problems, rather than saying that some monolithic government is going to make you take care of yourself and be a better person. It's a preposterous notion: It never worked, it never will. The government can't make you a better person; it can't make you follow good habits.' - Ron Paul 1988
Awareness is the Root of Liberation Revolution is Action upon Revelation
'Resistance and Disobedience in Economic Activity is the Most Moral Human Action Possible' - SEK3
Flectere si nequeo superos, Acheronta movebo.
...the familiar ritual of institutional self-absolution...
...for protecting them, by mock trial, from punishment...
Start in our own backyard. We don't need to try and attempt to 'compete' with the UN, we need to re-educate and reawaken our fellow citizens here first.
Liberty, Prosperity, and Peace rang loud and clear when Ron said it in 2007 at the Iowa Straw Poll.
It also seems like it would be harder to co-opt and smear.
At this point trying to gauge which has more excitement behind it and which would have a larger effect over the long run. (seems to be pretty clear at this point)
There will be a lot of brainstorming to do.
We just need about fifty more of your and sailingaway likes and if we can get on the same page - unstoppable.
I have 15+ years of sales/marketing/management/public speaking experience I would offer if it were the right project. I would love to put my skills to work actually making lasting change in this country.
Competing with the UN sounds very interesting. Any help I could provide might be a bit patchy due to internet connectivity though.
Those who want liberty must organize as effectively as those who want tyranny. -- Iyad el Baghdadi
Yup.. The UN was a bad Idea from inception,, back when it was League of Nations..
No sense trying to compete with or improve on a Bad Idea.
Education and information could be a better direction. Though I have doubts of competing with the MSM.
Not exactly a level playing field.
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Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
Ron Paul 2004
Registered Ron Paul supporter # 2202
It's all about Freedom
I think I'm gonna have to agree that local (news/education) is better first.
We aren't exactly known for dedicating time to fair competitions.
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I think it's better to use a shorter domain name which focuses on what we're selling, news, while that one can/will be used to point to the LPP site.
Well, I'm the only one to pick option one--but I'm willing to help with two as well to whatever extent I can. I'll try to recruit Kludge for any economic (specifically Bitcoin?) need there might be, but he's currently working nights, 6 days/week--so he'll be limited as well. By the way, we're involved with the "Stossel in the Classroom" project for whatever that's worth. (Just grading student essays currently.)
Those who want liberty must organize as effectively as those who want tyranny. -- Iyad el Baghdadi
Drudge happened, and compared to a barebones website idea like google, pretty much sucks. The Internet, and particularly information dissemination,is WIDE open right now.
As to the OP, if it were a tab on this website I would be working on it all the time. If it's a new startup somewhere else with a separate signup or facebook It would have to be a perfect fit for me. Which it probably will be
I'm a moderator, and I'm glad to help. But I'm an individual -- my words come from me. Any idiocy within should reflect on me, not Ron Paul, and not Ron Paul Forums.
I have 20+ of the same, with some finance and oil and gas real estate mingled in. Prefer editing/writing over speaking. Love the PR stuff.
"Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one."
—Charles Mackay
"god i fucking wanna rip his balls off and offer them to the gods"
-Anonymous
I would like to help, if I can be of any assistance.
edit: I voted "both" although getting our own house in order is probably more benificial in the shorter term, but I can see that the whole world is yearning to be born.
Oh, and I'm a geek, C#, windows client/server programing (.net remoting, etc), 3D modeling, 3d programing, graphics editing...
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I'm down wit LPP.
See, I'm more of the public speaker myself, I prefer face to face interaction. Giving interactive lectures, teaching, announcing... all things I would love to do. I'm currently working on making my own recordings of BELLATOR (an MMA organization) fight cards to send to them, I'd love to take that current announcer's job. LOL
Now this is a good idea. Different topics where people could add their source and links. A simple liberty themed website where beginners to advanced and anyone in between can find topics easily to research thoroughly. Where if information is incorrect it could be challenged and changed. I somewhat tried to get something like that going in hot topics but it failed.
Maybe have subfolders such as here to make it all the more easy to find. A foreign policy subforum with topics from 1940s Syria to 2013 Mali and everything inbetween, for example. Have your sources there and recommended reading etc. I think it has the potential for rivaling anything out.
I'm not sure how much of a help I would be but I'm all for it, Josh. Let me know if you have anything in mind.
Yes, those are good ideas.
Crowdsourcing is what made wikipedia great. There will still be a strong form of editorial control, I don't like the pseudo-free for all that reddit has become. There is plenty of gaming that has gone on at both sites I'd like to see cut out.
Something that puts defenses up against co-option by tracking where contributing users come from. I'd like to see the use of real names rather than AI.
Some kind of a recommendation system/voting/pyramid scheme for good/downlines that show where users are coming from and what kind of a quality user they are.
Profiles and records of the media talking heads and their records of calling libertarians fascists while supporting the likes of Bachmann, Santorum, or Cain over Ron.
I think a system where anyone can submit news (a la wiki) mixed with a team of editors to content check and whatnot would workout immensely. That way we can prevent co-opting. I know I would love to donate time as a editor or whatever. Also, I know a little bit of python and can learn any computer programming language necesarry. We can do this!
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Just adding a tagging system to RPF and portal page that linked to various tags would improve news dissemination here. Just like the porno sites:
links for butt, butt plug, nice butt, big butt, bbw butt, teen butt, black butt, asian butt...
Not that I would know.... butt you hear me...
Gun
Gun control
seized
tsa
irs
dhs
drug war
financial collapse
cop shot dog
iran
israel
syria
etc etc
you know... all the important keywords; I'm sure we could come up with 500 common tags in no time, especially if we created a user generated system, even if we routed our searches through google to save bandwidth, ie: site:www.ronpaulforums.com
'We endorse the idea of voluntarism; self-responsibility: Family, friends, and churches to solve problems, rather than saying that some monolithic government is going to make you take care of yourself and be a better person. It's a preposterous notion: It never worked, it never will. The government can't make you a better person; it can't make you follow good habits.' - Ron Paul 1988
Awareness is the Root of Liberation Revolution is Action upon Revelation
'Resistance and Disobedience in Economic Activity is the Most Moral Human Action Possible' - SEK3
Flectere si nequeo superos, Acheronta movebo.
...the familiar ritual of institutional self-absolution...
...for protecting them, by mock trial, from punishment...
So, this will be Internet-based?
It sounds like a kind of Breitbart or Zero Hedge, with a limited number of contributors and editors. Would it be original material, commentary on other articles, or just posting of outside articles? I'd assume that each entry would have a comments section, fairly open, yet still moderated. Video would be interesting, but that is a little harder to produce quality material.
"Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
"Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Pharma-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
"Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
"Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul
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What you did there. I see it.
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