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Thread: NYT: Ames Straw poll best predictor of caucus results; 1st or 2s place @Ames usually wins

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    NYT: Ames Straw poll best predictor of caucus results; 1st or 2s place @Ames usually wins

    This is from the analysis of Nate Silver at 538:
    But Ames has a pretty good predictive track record. Since the event began in 1979, the candidate winning the Iowa caucus has placed first or second in the straw poll every time...
    Ames does better than other indicators. Since 1979, its results have the predictive power to explain 58 percent of voting in the Iowa caucuses.

    This compares favorably to the most recent Des Moines Register poll conducted before the straw poll, which explains 39 percent of caucus results.

    It also does better than the average of national polls conducted in the month before Ames, which explain 34 percent of caucus results. ...

    Betting markets think that Mr. Paul is the most likely candidate to win Ames. Say that he does so, with 30 percent of the vote, followed by Ms. Bachmann at 25 percent and Tim Pawlenty at 20 percent. Even if we leave the other variables in the analysis, that would make Mr. Paul the favorite to win the Iowa caucuses based on historical precedent.
    http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes...ually-matters/

    This is some great, fact-based analysis, and is the perfect rebuttal to the 'Ames doesn't matter' spin that the media are already gearing up in case Paul wins the gold today. Just tell them that the straw poll is a better predictor of actual caucus voters than either state or national polling at this point!
    Last edited by sailingaway; 08-13-2011 at 09:03 AM.
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    Of course it matters. What doesn't matter is MSM spin.

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    ^

    Yes, but being able to actually point to a regression analysis and quote R^2 values like Nate Silver does here will lend that argument credence against the nay-sayers.
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    Violence will not save us. Let us love one another, for love is from God.

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    Bumping this up, as it's been a great talking point for me around the web this morning.
    “Do you not know, my son, with how little wisdom the world is governed?” - Oxenstiern

    Violence will not save us. Let us love one another, for love is from God.

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    4 or 5 more hours until 1st place is a done deal?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aratus View Post
    4 or 5 more hours until 1st place is a done deal?
    Don't count on it. People are saying the line to go in Bachmann's tent with Huckabee there (with Ron now speaking) is the longest they've ever seen, and that she has sold 4000 tickets.

    Touch and go, at best.

    If Ron does win it is going to be close.
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    ^ Damn! That's not what I want to hear! lol

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    he could be in first place.
    its like flipping a coin!!!
    he's speaking right now.
    3 more hours of effort
    hands him 1st most likely!



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