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    traffic camera company getting it's *** kicked by a judge

    From Ben Swann's facebook wall:

    http://www.naturalnews.com/041084_sp...g_tickets.html

    Cincinnati judge orders all speed cameras confiscated, manufacturer held in contempt

    Ruehlman found in March that the speed cameras were unconstitutional, essentially then ordering them shut down, along with the speed ticket program. He also ruled that outstanding tickets issued as a result of the system did not have to be paid.

    During the June 27 hearing, Ruehlman found that his order had been violated in a number of ways. First off, the cameras had been turned back on, though Elmwood Place Police Chief Bill Peskin said during the hearing that they were only used to collect traffic and speed data, not to collect license plate information or to issue new traffic tickets.

    He also testified that people who had come to the station to pay tickets they had been issued were told that they didn't have to.

    "Many people did show up, trying to pay their citation to us," Peskin said, "and we told them that the program was to be suspended and they didn't have to pay the citation."

    The thing is, tickets were never meant to be paid to the suburb - though some monies apparently were collected, with some going back to Elmwood Place, according to court testimony.

    "The traffic camera company collected the citations, and apparently continued to collect money sent in after the judge's March order," WLWT reported. "There was testimony in court that some $48,000 was collected, with a percentage of that money passed on to the village per the speed camera contract. Optotraffic did not have a representative in court Thursday.

    . . . .

    In order to ensure no further violations of his order occurred, the judge ordered the Hamilton County sheriff to impound the traffic cameras and all of the equipment that is part of the traffic program, and store it at the expense of Elmwood Place. The equipment is to be released when the $48,000 in improperly collected ticket fees is returned. Per WLWT:

    Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/041084_sp...#ixzz2YUF6RCWe
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    This is getting silly.
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    It started silly.
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    Guess the manufacture didn't provide the proper kickbacks to the JustUs system.
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    SWEET!

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    Cool. I hate traffic cameras.
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    Quote Originally Posted by heavenlyboy34 View Post
    Cool. I hate traffic cameras.
    So does Ohio, apparently.
    Quote Originally Posted by timosman View Post
    This is getting silly.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    It started silly.
    T.S. Eliot's The Hollow Men

    "One of the penalties for refusing to participate in politics is that you end up being governed by your inferiors." - Plato

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    Quote Originally Posted by Philhelm
    I part ways with "libertarianism" when it transitions from ideology grounded in logic into self-defeating autism for the sake of ideological purity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nobody's_hero View Post
    So does Ohio, apparently.
    I wish Missouri would hate them

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    An honorable Judge!? Wow!
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    Governor Scott, here is Florida, signed into law that you are not allowed to fight or dispute camera tickets. It is illegal to defend yourself against these red light cameras here.

    And Scott is a Republican. Imagine that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nobody's_hero View Post
    So does Ohio, apparently.
    So does everyone that isnt reaping the benefits of taxation by citation.
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    He will soon be replaced by another judge after a "freak" accident resulting in his death. The grid will be back up shortly, thank you for your patience citizens.
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    Quote Originally Posted by QuickZ06 View Post
    He will soon be replaced by another judge after a "freak" accident resulting in his death. The grid will be back up shortly, thank you for you patience citizens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by QuickZ06 View Post
    He will soon be replaced by another judge after a "freak" accident resulting in his death. The grid will be back up shortly, thank you for your patience citizens.
    ???
    The grid was never down, the judge in question never made that ruling (he never actually existed, anyway), oh, and there is no matrix.
    All modern revolutions have ended in a reinforcement of the power of the State.
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    What would have happened if Neo took both pills?
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    Quote Originally Posted by QuickZ06 View Post
    What would have happened if Neo took both pills?
    He'd know about the matrix but couldn't be bothered enough about it to do anything about it (kinda like the Liberty Movement).
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    Quote Originally Posted by otherone View Post
    He'd know about the matrix but couldn't be bothered enough about it to do anything about it (kinda like the Liberty Movement).
    lol, I think.
    Quote Originally Posted by timosman View Post
    This is getting silly.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    It started silly.
    T.S. Eliot's The Hollow Men

    "One of the penalties for refusing to participate in politics is that you end up being governed by your inferiors." - Plato

    We Are Running Out of Time - Mini Me

    Quote Originally Posted by Philhelm
    I part ways with "libertarianism" when it transitions from ideology grounded in logic into self-defeating autism for the sake of ideological purity.

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    we got rid of them in Redmond - didn't change the law and they didn't allow our petition, but enough signatures submitted a few months prior to the primary election changed a 7-0 approval into a 7-0 don't renew the contract (Goldman-owned company was making about $50/ticket, whether paid or not I think)

    there's hope. maybe.



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