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    Ron Paul Exposes Ill Effects of Illegal Immigrants on Hospitals

    Former U.S. representative, three-time presidential candidate, and physician Ron Paul has spoken out publicly about the catastrophic impact the deluge of unaccompanied children illegally entering our country has had on our nation’s hospitals.

    “Our hospitals have already been under siege by immigrants,” Paul said on July 2 on Newsmax TV’s The Steve Malzberg Show.
    Many of the unaccompanied children being housed in federal facilities have been diagnosed with various communicable diseases, and some are sent to local hospitals for treatment. This naturally would cause hospitals near the facilities to become overwhelmed.

    “And with these thousands, tens of thousands, who knows how many [children] ... you’re going to see some very serious health problems.... We’ve already overburdened many hospitals, Paul said to Malzberg during the interview.

    “In the 19th century, when we had a massive influx of immigrants, we were still cautious about diseases.... Today, under these conditions, it just is essentially impossible to do this,” Paul added, referring to the massive, uncontrolled flow of illegal immigrants crossing our borders.

    When 19th century immigrants entering our county legally were processed at Ellis Island and other immigration stations, doctors briefly examined them for signs of illness. About 20 percent were singled out for further medical examination and about one percent were sent back to their countries of origin. After 1924, immigrants had to receive a visa from a U.S. consular office abroad before being allowed to travel to the United States. A medical exam was a prerequisite for receiving a visa, and about five percent of those examined were refused visas.
    Zack Taylor, chairman of the National Association of Former Border Patrol Officers, spoke with Breitbart on June 10 about the Border Patrol’s Rio Grand facility, where many unaccompanied children are being housed, and said: “Apparently, a significant amount of communicable disease is suspected by custodial and agent personnel.”

    Border Patrol agent and Rio Grande Valley Union representative Chris Cabrera told ABC 15 News in Arizona in a June 6 interview: “We are sending people everywhere [from the McAllen, Texas, facility]. The average person doesn't know what's going on down here.”
    However, attempts by the media to find out more about the health risks in the housing facilities have been unsuccessful. ABC 15 reported: “DHS has denied all requests for interviews with doctors and medical staff treating sick immigrants. The agency has also turned down our request for a tour.”
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    The only thing is, they, on average, consume less medical funding, prison funding, education funding, and welfare funding per capita than do natives. They seem to get lazier and more prone to crime as generations progress, until fully assimilated 3-4 generations later. So, the economic argument against them isn't that great...but it is better than the "moral" argument against free markets (and therefore open borders). Since the surveys of hundreds of studies was done some years ago, it seems no large data sample has come in that shows immigrants are disproportionately stressing the welfare state (and in fact, overseas the same lack of correlation seems to exist). They just, per capita, get less welfare. As a self-selected group of travelers, they seem to have an intention to work more times than not, at a higher rate than natives. So, the old "can't have open borders in a welfare state" (one of the few mistaken Milton Friedman quotes) myth has been debunked with data...having open borders doesn't really matter in a welfare state, if you have a simple rule that prevents non-citizens from getting these benefits for X number of years, or until X criteria is met, etc. Even without this rule, like some European nations have, the welfare state never gets stressed to a degree worthy of worry. The immigrants' economic benefit far outweighs the non-economic, but governmental, drawbacks for state coffers. This country would be way richer and have a less stressed welfare system overall if we magically replaced all natives with all immigrants tomorrow (not that I want that, just making a statistical point).
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    Quote Originally Posted by ProIndividual View Post
    The only thing is, they, on average, consume less medical funding, prison funding, education funding, and welfare funding per capita than do natives....
    Your argument is erroneous. It doesn't matter if only 10% of the them use half the services. IF someone is here illegally AND they are using services, THEY ARE A BURDEN - They are USING SERVICES/LABOR/RESOURCES not paid for, not intended for..... Don't be silly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Xar View Post
    Your argument is erroneous. It doesn't matter if only 10% of the them use half the services. IF someone is here illegally AND they are using services, THEY ARE A BURDEN - They are USING SERVICES/LABOR/RESOURCES not paid for, not intended for..... Don't be silly.
    I don't think his statistics are correct anyway.

    Immigrant households with children used welfare programs at consistently higher rates than natives, even before the current recession. In 2001, 50 percent of all immigrant households with children used at least one welfare program, compared to 32 percent for natives.
    http://cis.org/immigrant-welfare-use-2011
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