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    The Big COVID Stimulus Lie

    The Big COVID Stimulus Lie
    By Brian Liberty - March 3, 2021

    "If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it."

    With regard to the current COVID Stimulus Package, a big lie talking point has been repeated ad nauseam, on nearly every media outlet. The following headline sums it up nicely: "Broad, Bipartisan Support for $1.9 Trillion Stimulus Package Persists as Senate Gears Up to Tackle Bill."

    It doesn't matter whether it is MSNBC or Fox News, popular bipartisan support is claimed and assumed for the $1.9 trillion package. This is the big lie.

    It can be taken for granted that polls and surveys can be deceptive. It's all in how the questions are asked. It's probably safe to assume that the details of the massive spending bill known as the COVID stimulus package were not part of any poll.

    How many people would support a massive bill compromised mostly of pork for the most connected government cronies?

    The progressive left claims that they are in opposition to the elite mega-wealthy of the nation. Yet that is exactly who this package benefits. Additionally, the left claims that it represents the poor and downtrodden, yet this bill destroys the wages of the poorest working American via inflation. A $15 minimum wage is meaningless when a loaf of bread soars to $20. How could the left support this package?

    And then there is the supposedly conservative right. They have claimed to be fiscally responsible, and support smaller government, yet this package creates big government, and is the most irresponsible spending seen since the last time an incompetent socialist leader destroyed the economy of their own nation. How could the right support this package?

    So who actually supports this package? It is the elite establishment and connected cronies of Nancy Pelosi who feed at this pork trough. And this also explains the media's nearly unanimous regurgitation of this big lie.

    No average American should support this kleptocratic spending package. But if a deceptive poll question is properly crafted, then it can be used for the big lie. No doubt the polls say something to the effect that the COVID relief package gives money to the small people hurt by the Coronavirus shutdowns. But some reports reveal that the package is only around 9% COVID relief, the rest being special interest pork.

    A little bit of bribe money for the masses may be popular in and of itself, but considering how little money actually goes to the average person, this is just another big lie.
    "Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
    "Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Pharma-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The Big COVID Stimulus Lie
    By Brian Liberty - March 3, 2021

    "If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it."
    What irritates me is when they say stuff like "The stimulus plan would boost the economy and create 100 million jobs" or "The $15 minimum wage would lift 10 million children out of poverty" like it's an indisputable fact etched in stone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madison320 View Post
    What irritates me is when they say stuff like "The stimulus plan would boost the economy and create 100 million jobs" or "The $15 minimum wage would lift 10 million children out of poverty" like it's an indisputable fact etched in stone.
    False promises and propaganda. The truth is in the thousands of pages of the bill, written by lobbyists, special interests, cronies and kleptocrats, which no one will read.
    "Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
    "Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Pharma-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
    "Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul

    Proponent of real science.
    The views and opinions expressed here are solely my own, and do not represent this forum or any other entities or persons.

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    So someone with more time on their hands suss it out for me. How much of the bill goes to direct Covid relief. Example: $1400. Then add in the purchase distribution etc. How much in that bill is left over and how much would each taxpayer owe for their paltry sum?

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    Rather hilarious when you see people out there supporting this stimulus bill. The best kind of stimulus is the kind you earn from a job.
    "Perhaps one of the most important accomplishments of my administration is minding my own business."

    Calvin Coolidge

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Globalist View Post
    Rather hilarious when you see people out there supporting this stimulus bill. The best kind of stimulus is the kind you earn from a job.
    Both parties are going to be trying to outdo each other when it comes to stimulus until the dollar crashes. Until the dollar crashes socialism is going to look awesome since we can just print whatever we want.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Globalist View Post
    Rather hilarious when you see people out there supporting this stimulus bill. The best kind of stimulus is the kind you earn from a job.
    And what does one do when the "leader" of the Republican party - the (ex) President- allows states to declare some businesses "non-essential" and orders them to SHUT DOWN?

    To put it simply for those who can't concentrate: What if the Government tells you you cannot work?

    The NEW LEADER of the Republican "party" is the one who made all this possible



    All that is for anyone that thought this asinine clown show couldn't get even more bizarre.

    Have fun with your new "leader", Republicans- and don't even try to say you're for "Liberty" any more.

    Most of Ya'll are a complete joke.



    Rand stuck a knife in his daddy's supporters backs and the Trumpster came along and twisted it right up through their hearts. Funny, isn't it.

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    What gets me is why stop at $1400-2000 per person, or whatever they're purposing? If there's no consequence to all this money printing, why not make everyone a millionaire? Imagine how much stimulus that would provide. If MMT works, why wouldn't you?



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    I don't support any stimulus. But I am taking all they are giving. When the government is bankrupt and the dollar is worthless things will have to change.

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    Just heard on the news. They are saying Covid relief $1400 won't be given if you've made over $80k.
    So ya get out there, bust your ass, follow all the Covid guidelines, be available 24/7/52. And literally take that to heart, as some customers don't understand weekends, holidays, 2AM, etc.
    You managed to Make $86k last year. About $1K over the the divide between 22% and 24% tax. And self-employed. Being self-employed you have some serious taxes to pay in. Crazy in. Trust me or look it up yourself.
    And now they want you to pay for a $1.9 Trillion relief package that you do not get one damned thing from.
    I know someone in this exact situation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    So someone with more time on their hands suss it out for me. How much of the bill goes to direct Covid relief. Example: $1400. Then add in the purchase distribution etc. How much in that bill is left over and how much would each taxpayer owe for their paltry sum?
    Very difficult to accurately calculate. Supposedly there is a huge amount of the last stimulus bills still sitting around because they couldn't spend it fast enough. It’s possible that not a penny of the current stimulus would go to individual payments, as they still have enough left over to cover another round of individual payments.
    "Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
    "Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Pharma-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
    "Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul

    Proponent of real science.
    The views and opinions expressed here are solely my own, and do not represent this forum or any other entities or persons.

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    And I neglected to address the other surprises that Nancy “You can find out what’s in the bill after you pass it” Pelosi has buried in there. Maybe permanent, unverified vote by mail for the entire nation?
    "Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
    "Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Pharma-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
    "Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul

    Proponent of real science.
    The views and opinions expressed here are solely my own, and do not represent this forum or any other entities or persons.

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    The big liar in the big chair said it, so it must be true...

    Joe Biden today: “The American Rescue Plan, I believe, and according to polling data, the vast majority of Amercians believe, is essential”.
    "Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
    "Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Pharma-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
    "Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul

    Proponent of real science.
    The views and opinions expressed here are solely my own, and do not represent this forum or any other entities or persons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    Just heard on the news. They are saying Covid relief $1400 won't be given if you've made over $80k.
    So ya get out there, bust your ass, follow all the Covid guidelines, be available 24/7/52. And literally take that to heart, as some customers don't understand weekends, holidays, 2AM, etc.
    You managed to Make $86k last year. About $1K over the the divide between 22% and 24% tax. And self-employed. Being self-employed you have some serious taxes to pay in. Crazy in. Trust me or look it up yourself.
    And now they want you to pay for a $1.9 Trillion relief package that you do not get one damned thing from.
    I know someone in this exact situation.
    If he's self employed he can get the 20k free ppp money. If he didn't already.

    Free money for everybody!
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    Thomas Massie just railed against the passage of this COVID Porkulus bill.

    Steny Hoyer then responded to Massie with "the polls say that 90% of the people support this bill." Hoyer repeating the Big Lie.

    Hoyer then said that 90% of the American people support more gun control. The next Big Lie is on.
    "Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
    "Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Pharma-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
    "Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul

    Proponent of real science.
    The views and opinions expressed here are solely my own, and do not represent this forum or any other entities or persons.

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    And today, the big bipartisan lie being pushed is that everyone wants a huge Infrastructure Bill, it’s just that the Democrats and Pelosi want too much.
    "Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
    "Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Pharma-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
    "Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul

    Proponent of real science.
    The views and opinions expressed here are solely my own, and do not represent this forum or any other entities or persons.



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