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    Britain's May warns there could be 'no Brexit at all': Mail on Sunday

    LONDON (Reuters) - British Prime Minister Theresa May has warned there may be "no Brexit at all" because of lawmakers' attempts to undermine her plan to leave the European Union.

    "My message to the country this weekend is simple: we need to keep our eyes on the prize," May wrote in the Mail on Sunday newspaper. "If we don’t, we risk ending up with no Brexit at all."

    Earlier this week two senior ministers resigned in protest at May's plans for trade with the EU after Britain leaves the bloc next March. Her blueprint was then criticized in a newspaper interview by U.S. President Donald Trump, a position he backtracked on during a meeting with May on Friday.

    May also wrote in the Mail on Sunday article that Britain would take a tough stance in its next round of negotiations with the EU.

    Continue reading https://www.yahoo.com/news/britains-...-business.html

    I forsee a very diluted UK exit from EU or one with very little difference from the current status in the future. And the longer this negotiation goes on, the lesser the chances of any exit. Think about that when next to see a pic of Nigel Farage grinning after the brexit win.



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    https://www.vox.com/policy-and-polit...-brexit-sue-eu

    Theresa May says Donald Trump told her to sue the European Union

    When United Kingdom Prime Minister Theresa May and Donald Trump met Friday, the US president had a “suggestion” on handling Brexit negotiations. May revealed what it was Sunday: He told her to sue the European Union.

    He told me I should sue the EU — not go into negotiations. Sue them,” May said in an interview with the BBC. “Actually, no, we’re going into negotiations with them.”

    During a joint press conference on Friday, both May and Trump referred to advice Trump had given to May regarding her handling of Brexit. Trump said he gave May a “suggestion” but she “found it maybe too brutal.” Still, he said he thought she might eventually go with it. “If they don’t make the right deal, she might very well do what I suggested that she might want to do,” he said.

    During the same conference, Trump said he wouldn’t scrap negotiation altogether. “You can’t walk away, because if she walks away, that means she’s…stuck,” he said. But, he clarified, “she can do what my suggestion was.” As May has since revealed, that advice is to sue.

    It’s not clear how the UK suing the EU would really work. The BBC points out that it’s hard to really see any grounds for a lawsuit — the EU and UK haven’t struck a final deal on Brexit yet, and the UK can’t exactly sue for a breach of an agreement that doesn’t exist:

    The UK and the EU have not reached a Brexit agreement yet, so there can be no action for breach of that agreement. Parties to a negotiation are under what are known as “procedural duties” — for instance, to act in good faith. But it is very difficult to bring an action, within a negotiation, on that basis. Some would say that even attempting to do so would seriously harm the negotiation.
    During the BBC interview, May emphasized that beyond Trump’s lawsuit suggestion, he also told her not to walk away from talks during the press conference. “I want to be able to sit down to negotiate the best deal for Britain,” she said.

    May came to power shortly after the Brexit vote in 2016 and has taken a more moderate stance than some figures in the pro-Brexit camp. Foreign Minister Boris Johnson, Brexit minister David Davis and Brexit undersecretary Steve Baker, earlier this month quit in protest of May’s actions. Last week, May released a white paper outlining a plan for the UK to exit the EU.

    Trump has often taken an antagonistic position on the EU. He has attacked the longtime ally on trade and immigration and has criticized NATO, which consists of North American and European members.

    Donald Trump is really into lawsuits
    It’s not necessarily a surprise that Trump would suggest May sue the EU — the president has quite an affinity for lawsuits and has used the tactic often throughout his career.

    A USA Today tracker found that Trump has been involved in more than 4,000 lawsuits since the 1970s, and Bloomberg identified 1,300 legal cases since 2000 alone. Many of the lawsuits are mundane consequences of doing business — actions against gambling debtors at his casinos, employment disputes. Others, however, are more serious, such as the class-action lawsuit filed against Trump University.

    Trump often threatens to sue his opponents and enemies, though he doesn’t always follow through. During the 2016 campaign, for example, he threatened to sue the New York Times over its reporting on allegations of sexual misconduct against him and said he would sue his female accusers. He still has not. It’s unlikely the UK will wind up suing the EU, either.

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    Her deal is no Brexit, it's time for her to go.
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    A ninth MP has resigned from the government in the week since Conservative Prime Minister Theresa May revealed her soft Brexit plan which has been branded a betrayal of Leave voters by prominent Eurosceptics.

    In the space of 24 hours, MP for Witney Robert Courts and MP for North Cornwall Scott Mann have resigned from their government positions following the release of Mrs May’s plans for future European Union-UK relations, which would see post-Brexit Britain tied to many of the bloc’s rules and regulations, joining seven others who resigned either from Cabinet or from a Tory Party role.
    They were:
    David Davis, MP for Haltemprice and Howden, former Brexit Secretary at the Department for Exiting the European Union (DExEU), Resigned Sunday 8th July

    The first resignation came the day after the plan was unveiled at the Prime Minister’s country retreat Chequers.
    Mr Davis wrote in his resignation letter that the plan “hands control of large swathes of our economy to the EU and is certainly not returning control of our laws in any real sense”.
    He later told the BBC that the EU would wield the “sword of Damocles” over Parliament, saying that the return of sovereignty would be “illusory rather than real”.
    Remainer Tories Call For Second Referendum: May’s ‘Fudge’ Is ‘Worst of Both Worlds’ https://t.co/scha4bQzpr
    — Breitbart London (@BreitbartLondon) July 16, 2018
    Steve Baker, MP for Wycombe, former Parliamentary Under-Secretary (DExEU), Resigned Sunday 8th July

    Mr Baker’s resignation followed swiftly on from that of Mr Davis’s. He told the BBC’s Daily Politics that elite europhiles are frustrating Brexit, saying: “The reality here is that leaving the European Union is a very difficult process; one of the issues is that… the establishment in this country does not want to leave the European Union.”
    Boris Johnson, MP for Uxbridge and South Ruislip, former foreign secretary, Resigned Monday 9th July

    Mr Johnson resigned the following day and wrote that “That dream [of Brexit] is dying, suffocated by needless self-doubt” and that the UK is “truly headed for the status of a colony [of the EU]”.
    Rather than weakening May’s position, the resignations of Johnson and Davis allowed the Prime Minister — who voted to stay in the EU — to fill gaps in the top tiers of her cabinet with fellow Remain voters, notably Jeremy Hunt (foreign secretary).
    Ex-Minister: Brexit Dept Is ‘Potemkin Structure’, ‘Establishment Elite Working to Overturn EU Referendum’ https://t.co/Ef6r6KQ74g
    — Breitbart London (@BreitbartLondon) July 16, 2018
    Chris Green, MP for Bolton West, former Parliamentary Private Secretary, Resigned Monday 9th July

    Green resigned as PPS — a Member of Parliament assisting a government minister — tweeting “Brexit must mean Brexit”.
    “The direction the negotiations had been taking have suggested that we would not really leave the EU and the conclusion and statements following the Chequers summit confirmed my fears,” he added.
    Conor Burns, MP for Bolton West, former Parliamentary Private Secretary, Resigned Monday 9th July

    A second PPS resigned on the same day as Mr Johnson, writing: “I’ve decided it’s time to have greater freedom. I want to see the referendum result respected. And there are other areas of policy I want to speak more openly on.”
    Ben Bradley, MP for Mansfield, and Maria Caulfield, MP for Lewes, former Conservative Party Vice Chairmen, Resigned Tuesday 10th July

    Ms Caulfield warned that May’s Brexit proposal would result in a loss of membership for the Conservative Party and would hand support to leftist Labour Party leader Jeremy Corbyn.
    Mr Bradley echoed those comments, writing: “If we do not deliver Brexit in spirit as well as in name, then we are handing Jeremy Corbyn the keys to Number 10.”
    Theresa May Threatens the Nation: ‘Accept My Brexit, Or Risk No Brexit At All’ https://t.co/VScPXhmKA9
    — Breitbart London (@BreitbartLondon) July 16, 2018
    Robert Courts, MP for Witney & West Oxfordshire, former Parliamentary Private Secretary, Resigned Sunday 15th July

    The ministerial aide tweeted that: “I have taken the very difficult decision to resign position as PPS to express discontent with Chequers in votes tomorrow.
    “I had to think who I wanted to see in the mirror for the rest of my life. I cannot tell the people of WOxon [Witney and West Oxfordshire] that I support the proposals in their current form.”
    Scott Mann, MP for North Cornwall, former Parliamentary Private Secretary, Resigned Monday 16th July

    Mr Mann resigned on Monday morning expressing the sense of his constituents’ betrayal who as residents of a coastal town, would be directly affected by May’s decision to allow the EU to have continued access the British fishing waters.
    “The residents of North Cornwall made it very clear that they wish to have control over our fishery, our agriculture policy, our laws and our borders. I will evaluate those core principles against the Brexit white paper and ensure that I vote in line with those wishes,” he wrote.

    More at: https://www.breitbart.com/london/201...t-brexit-plan/
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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    Theresa May has been accused of an "unacceptable" compromise to the European Union following reports that European judges will have the final say over areas of Britain's future relationship with the EU after Brexit. The UK government has agreed to let the European Court of Justice be the legal arbiter on issues relating to the £39 billion Brexit bill and the 3.8 million EU citizens residing in Britain, according to The Times .
    This means that even once Britain has completely Brexit, the EU's highest court, based in Luxembourg, will continue to have the final say on future disputes relating to two key aspects of the divorce.
    In a draft text of the agreement, it says a joint committee of officials "may, at any point, decide to submit the dispute brought before it to the Court of Justice of the EU for a ruling," even if resisted by UK-based courts.


    The ECJ — which has one judge from each EU member state — will also have the final say on whether the Northern Irish backstop should be activated, meaning European judges could have the power to alter the UK territory.
    Under the EU's proposed backstop model, Northern Ireland will effectively remain in the customs union and single market for goods if Brexit trade talks fail to preserve the invisible border on the island of Ireland.
    Pro-Brexit Conservative MP Bernard Jenkin described the reported agreement as "unacceptable."
    "This is very profound. It is giving a status to the European Court of Justice in the withdrawal agreement that is not accorded to the Supreme Court in the United Kingdom," the MP for Harwich and North Essex said.



    More at: https://www.businessinsider.com/ther...-judges-2018-7
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

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    A significant Conservative donor has told Westmonster that he believes Theresa May is no longer fit to lead the party, that other pro-Brexit donors are disgruntled and that Boris Johnson’s burka comments are “completely correct”.
    Speaking exclusively to Westmonster the individual, who has donated six figures to the Tories, said: “It’s absolutely clear that Theresa May is no longer fit to run the Tory Party and lead the UK out of the EU.
    “She is a Remainer; her Chequers deal is a bad deal and simply leads us to be a vassal state. We need a Brexiteer to lead us out the European Union; until the incumbent leadership of the Tory party is replaced and until the Chequers deal is scrapped, I can’t see myself giving any more money to the Conservative Party. I have given hundreds of thousands of pounds to the Conservatives but for the foreseeable future, all funding from me stops.
    Reflecting the feeling among others who have given money to the Conservative Party, he says: “There is general dissatisfaction among the Brexit donors that the Chequers deal is being presented as fait accompli when everyone hates it and I know that many others donors are contemplating pulling funding or have done so already.”
    Commenting on the recent controversy surrounding Boris, the major donor was clear: “Theresa May will use every opportunity to slam Boris Johnson who is seen as the real Brexit leader. The current debacle over the Burka comment is illustrative of the way she’ll try and get to him, despite his comments being completely correct.”

    With Theresa May’s personal approval ratings at an all-time low and support for the Chequers plan in the toilet, this should serve as yet another wake-up call for the Tory Party. An urgent change is needed at the very top of the party.

    https://www.westmonster.com/major-to...etely-correct/
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment



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