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Thread: SCOTUS Strikes Down Limits on Overall Federal Campaign Contributions

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    SCOTUS Strikes Down Limits on Overall Federal Campaign Contributions

    http://www.nytimes.com/2014/04/03/us...ributions.html

    WASHINGTON — The Supreme Court on Wednesday issued a major campaign finance decision, striking down some limits on federal campaign contributions for the first time. The ruling, issued near the start of a campaign season, will change and most likely increase the already large role money plays in American politics.

    The decision, by a 5-to-4 vote along ideological lines, with the Court’s more conservative justices in the majority, was a sequel of sorts to Citizens United, the 2010 decision that struck down limits on independent campaign spending by corporations and unions. But that ruling did nothing to affect the other main form of campaign finance regulation: caps on direct contributions to candidates and political parties.


    Wednesday’s decision in McCutcheon v. Federal Election Commission, No. 12-536, addressed that second kind of regulation.

    It did not affect familiar base limits on contributions from individuals to candidates, currently $2,600 per candidate in primary and general elections. But it said that overall limits of $48,600 by individuals every two years for contributions to all federal candidates violated the First Amendment, as did separate aggregate limits on contributions to political party committees, currently $74,600.



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    SCOTUS Strikes Down Aggregate Campaign Finance Limits

    In 5-4 Decision, SCOTUS Strikes Down Aggregate Campaign Finance Limits

    The Supreme Court today handed down their decision in McCutcheon v. FEC, and the 5-4 decision carried by the Court's conservative justices has overturned the aggregate limits on campaign contributions to political candidates. Candidate limits will remain intact - so while no individual may give more than $5,200 to a candidate, they are no longer limited in their overall direct contribution limits in each cycle.

    As Justice Roberts writes in the majority opinion:
    To put it in the simplest terms, the aggregate limits prohibit an individual from fully contributing to the primary and general election campaigns of ten or more candidates, even if all contributions fall within the base limits Congress views as adequate to protect against corruption. The individual may give up to $5,200 each to nine candidates, but the aggregate limits constitute an outright ban on further contributions to any other candidate (beyond the additional $1,800 that may be spent before reaching the $48,600 aggregate limit). At that point, the limits deny the individual all ability to exercise his expressive and associational rights by contributing to someone who will advocate for his policy preferences. A donor must limit the number of candidates he supports, and may have to choose which of several policy concerns he will advance—clear First Amendment harms that the dissent never acknowledges.

    It is no answer to say that the individual can simply contribute less money to more people. To require one person to contribute at lower levels than others because he wants to support more candidates or causes is to impose a special burden on broader participation in the democratic process.
    Continue Reading: http://townhall.com/tipsheet/kevingl...e-law-n1817943

    Very good ruling. A win for free speech.

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    Wow. I am surprised I can't hear the liberal heads exploding all across the entire country. You're right - this is a pro-freedom ruling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by angelatc View Post
    Wow. I am surprised I can't hear the liberal heads exploding all across the entire country. You're right - this is a pro-freedom ruling.
    Chief Justice Roberts made a good point in the majority opinion. Liberals will cry about who this will increase corruption, but Roberts said something along the lines of "Why is it fine to contribute $5,200 to 9 candidates, but automatically corrupt and illegal to donate $5,200 to 10 candidates?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by eduardo89 View Post
    Chief Justice Roberts made a good point in the majority opinion. Liberals will cry about who this will increase corruption, but Roberts said something along the lines of "Why is it fine to contribute $5,200 to 9 candidates, but automatically corrupt and illegal to donate $5,200 to 10 candidates?"
    Personally, I'd take off all the personal limits. Why it is fine to donate $5,200 to a candidate, but evil and corrupt to donate $5,201?

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    Quote Originally Posted by angelatc View Post
    Personally, I'd take off all the personal limits. Why it is fine to donate $5,200 to a candidate, but evil and corrupt to donate $5,201?
    I agree. But this is a good first step towards true political speech freedom.

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    Financial limits only gives the illusion that "the common man" actually has any power. I say uncap that bad boy and be ideologically consistent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eduardo89 View Post
    I agree. But this is a good first step towards true political speech freedom.
    Yes, I'm certainly not an ideologue who won't celebrate winning a battle because the war isn't over. Baby steps forward are better than backward.



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    This is a great ruling. Trying to regulate campaign finance is classical treating the symptom rather than the problem. The symptom is money in politics. The problem is that the government has so much control over our money and economy.
    Find liberty candidates to support:
    http://www.candidates4liberty.com

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    Put the Guilt on the politicians who wrote the laws for themselves and their money masters...

    This should be the number one issue to fire every politician that supported the McCain-Feingold Act. Heck fire them all because none of them have done anything to fix campaign bribery laws.
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    I'm surprised the forum leftists haven't chimed in yet.

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    Great! Now lets trash those pesky individual cap limits. 2nd gilded age, here we come!

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    Quote Originally Posted by angelatc View Post
    Wow. I am surprised I can't hear the liberal heads exploding all across the entire country. You're right - this is a pro-freedom ruling.
    I do, all I hear are a bunch of retarded "if money is speech" non-jokes. Liberals are so good at strawmanning landmark decisions, they still haven't gotten tired of the Citizens United strawman that 'corporations are people'.

    Next stop : allow foreigners to donate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eduardo89 View Post
    I'm surprised the forum leftists haven't chimed in yet.
    we must stop them corporations from buyin our votes!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by angelatc View Post
    Personally, I'd take off all the personal limits. Why it is fine to donate $5,200 to a candidate, but evil and corrupt to donate $5,201?
    if we take off personal limits, then the next logical step would be to keep donors private. why are votes private but donations public? that never made sense to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PRB View Post
    we must stop them corporations from buyin our votes!!!!!
    Says the same people who use tax money to buy theirs.



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    Quote Originally Posted by angelatc View Post
    Says the same people who use tax money to buy theirs.
    liberals love government and hate corporations, why is that hypocritical?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PRB View Post
    liberals love government and hate corporations, why is that hypocritical?
    Using money to buy votes is evil. Using other people's money to buy votes is double evil.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PRB View Post
    if we take off personal limits, then the next logical step would be to keep donors private. why are votes private but donations public? that never made sense to me.
    A voter is presumably a U.S. citizen (ha!) who has a right to cast a vote in secret. Perhaps donations are private in order to ensure that a candidate isn't being paid off by a foreign power (ha!).
    "I shall bring justice to Westeros. Every man shall reap what he has sown, from the highest lord to the lowest gutter rat. They have made my kingdom bleed, and I do not forget that."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Philhelm View Post
    A voter is presumably a U.S. citizen (ha!) who has a right to cast a vote in secret. Perhaps donations are private in order to ensure that a candidate isn't being paid off by a foreign power (ha!).
    Donations are NOT currently private, but should be!

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    Quote Originally Posted by angelatc View Post
    Using money to buy votes is evil. Using other people's money to buy votes is double evil.
    not according to liberal logic, for liberals, everything they do is good as long as they agree with the agenda or if government does it instead of private corporations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PRB View Post
    Next stop : allow foreigners to donate.
    Of course. The first amendment protects free speech of EVERYONE, not just Americans. Although only citizens can vote, there is no Constitutional basis that prevents foreigners from buying elections.
    All modern revolutions have ended in a reinforcement of the power of the State.
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    When is the last time anyone saw a corporation come home from war in a body bag? Never? That's what I thought.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Natural Citizen View Post
    When is the last time anyone saw a corporation come home from war in a body bag? Never? That's what I thought.
    that doesn't mean you haven't seen corporation OWNERS, SHAREHOLDERS, STAKEHOLDERS, EMPLOYEES come home in a body bag.



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    Quote Originally Posted by PRB View Post
    that doesn't mean you haven't seen corporation OWNERS, SHAREHOLDERS, STAKEHOLDERS, EMPLOYEES come home in a body bag.
    I'll ask again. When is the last time anyone saw a corporation come home from war in a body bag?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Natural Citizen View Post
    I'll ask again. When is the last time anyone saw a corporation come home from war in a body bag?
    about as many times as I see cars come home from war in a body bag.

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    I'm surprised to see all of the comments in favor of this ruling. A lot of the comments I've seen from libertarians here and on the DP in the past made it sound like a large number of libertarians are in favor of campaign finance laws which place limits on contributions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Traditional Conservative View Post
    I'm surprised to see all of the comments in favor of this ruling.
    You're surprised to see that on a forum of anti-government people, people support a less government ruling?

    A lot of the comments I've seen from libertarians here and on the DP in the past made it sound like a large number of libertarians are in favor of campaign finance laws which place limits on contributions.
    those are libertarians who want government because somebody isn't playing fair, the same people who want border enforcement, DUI enforcement and labeling GMOs.

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    The Constitution protects the Mexican's Right to free speech. He can buy our politicians with the same alacrity as our native collectives, which, apparently, have Rights just like people.
    All modern revolutions have ended in a reinforcement of the power of the State.
    -Albert Camus

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