The Distributed Election Fraud Model

[Brian4Liberty]

"Show us the election fraud!"

It's a daunting task to find and prosecute election fraud. It is made even harder when election rules are modified to make election fraud easier for the masses. That is precisely what was done before the 2020 election.

The Distributed Election Fraud Model

When fraud can be widely distributed and compartmentalized, it becomes virtually impossible to catch most cases. While a huge dump of tens or hundreds of thousands of fraudulent ballots may be easier to catch, when the illegal ballots arrive one, two, five or ten at a time, it can not be caught.

How does this happen? The first step is to change the election rules through hook or crook. A state legislature can pass new laws changing the registration and voting rules, validations, and time frames. In other instances, there can be legal challenges and lawsuits, edicts from friendly AG's, Secretaries of State, Election Boards, and Governors. This is exactly what happened in preparation for the 2020 election. The "emergency" of COVID-19 was a convenient excuse that helped in the process. Never let a crisis go to waste.

Once the election rules are sufficiently loose and the seeds of fraud are sewn, it is time for operatives large and small to gather that harvest. In this case, flooding the population with ballots and almost eliminating validations is enough to enable vote fraud. Allowing these ballots to be collected en masse by anyone who has an urge to do so further enables fraud (ballot harvesting).

The ensuing fraud can be as simple as someone filling out ballots for Grandma and Grandpa (alive or dead), to more sophisticated gathering of ballots by corrupt postal workers and activists registering fake voters, or operatives that engage in larger fraud, such as voting for incapacitated residents of a nursing home.

Thus the fraud is widely distributed. It is impossible to find and correct such fraud. Good luck trying to expose these instances of fraud a few at a time. The rules, chain of custody and verification have been eased to a point of being non-existent, and are of no help in catching illegal votes.

A Test Run in California

In 2016, this theory was tested in California. The California Legislature passed new laws to loosen rules on mail-in ballots, and to allow ballot harvesting. This law was signed by Governor Jerry Brown in time for the 2018 midterm elections.

The stage was set, and California was the test bed. The result was that a massive amount of new ballots were cast, and California lost 7 of it's 14 Republican House seats in red districts. It was a huge success, and exceeded expectations!

The National Implementation

With a proven winning strategy, it was time to take it national, especially in swing states. Many states had already implemented some aspects of lax voting methods. With COVID-19 as a catalyst and excuse for wide ranging executive mandates, even more changes could be forced through. Legal actions were also utilized to modify the interpretation of existing laws, or to essentially re-write the law in the courtroom.

And the end result is where we are today. Ballots are coming in from all directions, unsupervised, with absolutely no chain of custody. Instead of finishing counts in a few hours after polls close, counting continues more than a week later in some states.

The election process has become so corrupted, that the US State Department would call it egregious fraud, if it happened in a different nation such as Ukraine.

Stories are rampant about a variety of ballot frauds, statistical red flags, and counting machine glitches. But verifying and proving a single case is exceedingly difficult and time consuming process. Good luck proving even a few cases.

The distributed election fraud model has been implemented, and by design, it is a death by a thousand cuts.

[PRB]

nice conspiracy theory, would be a shame if somebody asked for evidence

[DamianTV]

And that is the REAL threat to the long term state of our country. He who votes has no power. He who can cast rules on who can vote and what votes will be counted has the ability to alter the outcome of the vote count.

[navy-vet]

"Mighty convenient to have a model that postulates widespread fraud for which no evidence ever can or needs to be found. That's a model for a perfect, long lasting conspiracy theory which will erode the foundations of our democracy. Congratulations."- a libertarian friend

[Brian4Liberty]

"Mighty convenient to have a model that postulates widespread fraud for which no evidence ever can or needs to be found. That's a model for a perfect, long lasting conspiracy theory which will erode the foundations of our democracy. Congratulations."- a libertarian friend

There is plenty of evidence for this hypothesis. The changes to election law and process are well-known facts. The implementation of massive mail in voting is fact. The lack of safeguards, verifications or any type of chain is custody is fact.

The only open question is whether this was a conscious and deliberate conspiracy, and we know who filed the lawsuits and changed the law. We know that Democrats have pushed for mail in voting. What does one need? Signed confessions from every Democrat official and operative? Perp walk them and have them say “we would have gotten away with it if not for you meddling kids”?

Want people to have faith in elections? Fix the election laws and processes.

[Contumacious]

There is plenty of evidence for this hypothesis. The changes to election law and process are well-known facts. The implementation of massive mail in voting is fact. The lack of safeguards, verifications or any type of chain is custody is fact.

The only open question is whether this was a conscious and deliberate conspiracy, and we know who filed the lawsuits and changed the law. We know that Democrats have pushed for mail in voting. What does one need? Signed confessions from every Democrat official and operative? Perp walk them and have them say “we would have gotten away with it if not for you meddling kids”?

Want people to have faith in elections? Fix the election laws and processes.

A decision was made to weaponize covid19 and use it to force mail in ballots.

[TheCount]

Can someone explain to me how and why this massive, distributed conspiracy was designed to fail to take control of the senate, to lose house seats, and to lose control of state legislatures and state governorships?

[navy-vet]

There is plenty of evidence for this hypothesis. The changes to election law and process are well-known facts. The implementation of massive mail in voting is fact. The lack of safeguards, verifications or any type of chain is custody is fact.

The only open question is whether this was a conscious and deliberate conspiracy, and we know who filed the lawsuits and changed the law. We know that Democrats have pushed for mail in voting. What does one need? Signed confessions from every Democrat official and operative? Perp walk them and have them say “we would have gotten away with it if not for you meddling kids”?

Want people to have faith in elections? Fix the election laws and processes.

I totally agree with you!

[Brian4Liberty]

Can someone explain to me how and why this massive, distributed conspiracy was designed to fail to take control of the senate, to lose house seats, and to lose control of state legislatures and state governorships?

Excellent question!

No plan is perfect. And it always depends upon the state and what election rules were in place. The plan couldn't be implemented in some states due to who was in control. And swing states were the focus, so many states weren’t bothered with as much. It also depends upon the voters of any given district. A GOP candidate still wins in a heavily GOP area, just as a Democrat wins in a heavy Democrat area.

And it could be hypothesized that the leftist rioting and focus on socialism was detrimental across the board. Some Democrats have lamented as much.

One fraud claim is being made that some of the later ballots were so rushed that they didn’t bother to vote on any down ballot races. And no telling how vote counting software might have been modified. Perhaps just to effect one race?

But even worse, what is the long term effect of such a destructive and short-sighted strategy? Loss of faith in elections? Is there a plan beyond that, other than a China style government where the peons don't get to vote at all? Ironically, voting is a liberal policy, but the new Marxian left is the opposite of liberal. Do they even want voting after they take power?

Democrats have been working off of an assumption that the more ballots thrown to the wind, the more immigrants that vote (legal or not), the more ex-felons that vote, the younger the people that vote, will all result in an advantage to Democrats. That may not always be true.

Election fraud plans are a nuclear option. By any means necessary. Lie, cheat, steal. But once you go nuclear, everyone can go nuclear. Ask Harry Reid how his use of the nuclear option in the Senate has worked out since Mitch McConnell took over.

Likewise, ballot harvesting was a great idea when Democrats changed some laws and were prepared and ready to take advantage in 2018. But now, look what is happening in places like Orange County, California. The GOP adapted a bit, and now it is the Democrats yelling foul. A perfectly predictable outcome from a short-sighted plan.

The Orange County District Attorney’s Office launched an investigation Tuesday focused on a possible Election Day ballot harvesting operation at the campaign headquarters of Republican Westminster Vice Mayor Kimberly Ho.

Why CA Dems Suddenly Take Issue with Ballot Harvesting

[Mordan]

Can someone explain to me how and why this massive, distributed conspiracy was designed to fail to take control of the senate, to lose house seats, and to lose control of state legislatures and state governorships?

Because

1) China doesn't care about state legislatures.

2) The president has all the visibility and power in terms of foreign policy

3) Corrupt poll workers must be willing. The media successfully painted Trump as evil.. so people would be more inclined doing whatever necessary to defeat him. even cheat.

[PRB]

Because

1) China doesn't care about state legislatures.

2) The president has all the visibility and power in terms of foreign policy

3) Corrupt poll workers must be willing. The media successfully painted Trump as evil.. so people would be more inclined doing whatever necessary to defeat him. even cheat.

5 million votes behind.

[tod evans]

5 million votes behind.

Cities.

[S.Shorland]

The machine fraud has strange echoes of the RP results from 2012 as far as I recall.(The diverging graphs at the start).We'll never know. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ztu5Y5obWPk&t=0s

[TheCount]

Because

1) China doesn't care about state legislatures.

2) The president has all the visibility and power in terms of foreign policy

3) Corrupt poll workers must be willing. The media successfully painted Trump as evil.. so people would be more inclined doing whatever necessary to defeat him. even cheat.

CHY-NAH

[TheCount]

Excellent question!

No plan is perfect. And it always depends upon the state and what election rules were in place. The plan couldn't be implemented in some states due to who was in control. And swing states were the focus, so many states weren’t bothered with as much.

Interesting how it managed to be implemented in states with republican leadership and republican legislatures... how do you suppose that works?

It also depends upon the voters of any given district. A GOP candidate still wins in a heavily GOP area, just as a Democrat wins in a heavy Democrat area.

Not true in two ways.

First: what is being alleged involves enough votes to flip districts from red to blue. You can't say that 1.6 million votes were either added or flipped in 5 states in such a way that it affects no elections except the presidential. In PA, for example, about 1/3rd of house races were relatively close, as you can see here: https://www.foxnews.com/elections/20...e/pennsylvania

If you were to remove 260k "fraudulent" votes evenly split across the D-won districts, at least four of them would go R instead.

So here, your options are either 1) a massive nationwide system of voter fraud, but done so poorly that it fails to affect any of the local or legislative races, or 2) actually, the house and senate would be 75%+ republican if not for the voter fraud, which not requires you to invent an even broader conspiracy theory wherein there really aren't that many democrats at all and the whole nation is being deceived into thinking that a 20% political opinion is actually a 50% political opinion.

Go with that where you want.


Second: Senate races are statewide. It isn't a matter of district. So your "GOP area / Democratic area" thing falls apart there.

So... given massive voter fraud in Georgia (367k votes, according to that other bull$#@! thread), please explain to me how Democratic candidates failed to win their respective senate races in Georgia. 367K votes was an okay amount of fraud, but 420K would have been too much, and so they stopped?


Or... Maine? Please explain to me how, if there is so much f'n election fraud, Susan Collins won her senate election by 100k+ votes, in a state where Biden won by 80k votes. They were just too lazy to fill in the senate block? The straight ticket option at the top of the ballot was too much work? Keep in mind, this is a state that would have required no 'rush' ballot generation, because it went for Biden the whole time.

One fraud claim is being made that some of the later ballots were so rushed that they didn’t bother to vote on any down ballot races. And no telling how vote counting software might have been modified. Perhaps just to effect one race?

This requires a magical combination of immense competence and immense incompetence.

But even worse, what is the long term effect of such a destructive and short-sighted strategy? Loss of faith in elections? Is there a plan beyond that, other than a China style government where the peons don't get to vote at all? Ironically, voting is a liberal policy, but the new Marxian left is the opposite of liberal. Do they even want voting after they take power?

Whoa, whoa, are sure you talking about democratic party strategy? I've heard a lot of talk both before and after the elections about how voting is actually bad and the people can't be trusted to make their own decisions, etc., and all of it came from people on the right who were worried about the election beforehand and pissed off about it afterwards.

The idea that, right now, the party that is causing a loss of faith in elections is the democratic party requires such a pretzel of convoluted logic that it's simply amazing to me.

Democrats have been working off of an assumption that the more ballots thrown to the wind, the more immigrants that vote (legal or not), the more ex-felons that vote, the younger the people that vote, will all result in an advantage to Democrats. That may not always be true.

One sentence ago you thought that democrats didn't want people to vote. Now they want more people to vote? Which is it?

[PRB]

Cities.

Pennsylvania is a joke. Trump couldn't pay a lawyer enough to lie under oath.

[tod evans]

Pennsylvania is a joke. Trump couldn't pay a lawyer enough to lie under oath.

You're cross-posting this jpeg in a couple of threads in response to irrelevant posts, why?

Is it even a real transcript? (hint, those bear the courts stamp)

[navy-vet]

Because

1) China doesn't care about state legislatures.

2) The president has all the visibility and power in terms of foreign policy

3) Corrupt poll workers must be willing. The media successfully painted Trump as evil.. so people would be more inclined doing whatever necessary to defeat him. even cheat.

I can see this too.

[Occam's Banana]

Pennsylvania is a joke. Trump couldn't pay a lawyer enough to lie under oath.

You're cross-posting this jpeg in a couple of threads in response to irrelevant posts, why?

Is it even a real transcript? (hint, those bear the courts stamp)

It's real. But there was nothing for the lawyer to "lie under oath" about.

The transcription is from Donald J. Trump for President v. Montgomery County Board of Elections, which was an attempt to halt ballot counting on the basis of improper ballot handling. It had nothing to do with any allegations of fraud (which is precisely what the court's questions were intended to establish).

[tebowlives]

Can someone explain to me how and why this massive, distributed conspiracy was designed to fail to take control of the senate, to lose house seats, and to lose control of state legislatures and state governorships?

Less attention if 1 election is fixed vs 10. It's a numbers game.

[TheCount]

Less attention if 1 election is fixed vs 10. It's a numbers game.

Dubious.

The presidential race gets far more attention than house races or state races, and any race involving The Orange God even more attention than that. This is a person who cried fraud in an election that he won. Has anyone claimed that, with apparently millions of fraudulent votes, that any downballot races were stolen?

[Philhelm]

Can someone explain to me how and why this massive, distributed conspiracy was designed to fail to take control of the senate, to lose house seats, and to lose control of state legislatures and state governorships?

Simple: Trump (and therefore the down-ballot) outperformed expectations resulting in old-fashioned, last minute ballot stuffing at 4:00 a.m. with Biden-only ballots to supplement the baked in fraud. In addition, they probably didn't want to take out too many Republicans for the sake of appearance and to not give Trump more aggrieved allies. Finally, they only needed to commit fraud within key districts of key states (i.e. swing states).

[Philhelm]

Has anyone claimed that, with apparently millions of fraudulent votes, that any downballot races were stolen?

I think that John James and Kim Klacik are challenging.

[jmdrake]

Can someone explain to me how and why this massive, distributed conspiracy was designed to fail to take control of the senate, to lose house seats, and to lose control of state legislatures and state governorships?

1) The Republican co-conspirators like the Lincoln Project wouldn't have gone along with that.

2) Rank and file republicans need to have hope in order to not go into full revolt.

3) Not all Senate seats were up for re-election.

[TheCount]

Trump (and therefore the down-ballot) outperformed expectations resulting in old-fashioned, last minute ballot stuffing at 4:00 a.m. with Biden-only ballots to supplement the baked in fraud.

Last minute, 4AM ballot stuffing is explicitly the sort of election fraud that this distributed election fraud model says doesn't exist.

Also, if those ballots were Biden-only, why did the late-counted ballots change numbers in downballot races too? You can look at the election #s from Nov 3 and later and see that those ballots were clearly not Biden-only.

In addition, they probably didn't want to take out too many Republicans for the sake of appearance and to not give Trump more aggrieved allies.

2018 was 'too many' Republicans taken out and they had to back off of that?

Why don't I remember mass allegations of election fraud from 2018, then?

Finally, they only needed to commit fraud within key districts of key states (i.e. swing states).

Why is it that voter turnout in those key districts of those key states was unaffected, then? Turnout in swing states was up by the same % in red areas as blue for 2020. Does this new, magical kind of election fraud also include adding fraudulent GOP ballots to match the Dem ballots?

[tebowlives]

Last minute, 4AM ballot stuffing is explicitly the sort of election fraud that this distributed election fraud model says doesn't exist.

No one has offered an explanation on why mail in votes had such large differences when we know they are mixed together vs in person where large swings exist.

[TheCount]

No one has offered an explanation on why mail in votes had such large differences when we know they are mixed together vs in person where large swings exist.

Trump told people not to vote mail in.

Dems told people to vote mail in.


That's why, even in very red areas, the mail-in ballots were mostly blue.

[tebowlives]

Trump told people not to vote mail in.

Dems told people to vote mail in.


That's why, even in very red areas, the mail-in ballots were mostly blue.

Curious, where is the proof of this?

Plus the mail ins still would be mixed together and wild swings would not happen nearly as much as what we've seen.

[Brian4Liberty]

Last minute, 4AM ballot stuffing is explicitly the sort of election fraud that this distributed election fraud model says doesn't exist.

Actually, this conspiracy hypothesis does not rule out "4AM ballot stuffing". It does not rule out any type of election fraud. Quite the opposite. All types of fraud could be used.

While a huge dump of tens or hundreds of thousands of fraudulent ballots may be easier to catch

Easier to catch, but does not rule out that it may be done in a desperate moment.

Once the election rules are sufficiently loose and the seeds of fraud are sewn, it is time for operatives large and small to gather that harvest. In this case, flooding the population with ballots and almost eliminating validations is enough to enable vote fraud. Allowing these ballots to be collected en masse by anyone who has an urge to do so further enables fraud (ballot harvesting).

A larger operation may collect ballots and hold them in reserve, in case they are needed at 4am. On a tangent, printing ballots from scratch is not addressed, or ruled out.

And who knows how counting machine "glitches" might manifest themselves, and in what numbers.

I will address other specific questions about the hypothesis tomorrow. Questions, corner cases, and challenges are always welcome in testing a hypothesis against the real world.

[TheCount]

Actually, this conspiracy hypothesis does not rule out "4AM ballot stuffing". It does not rule out any type of election fraud. Quite the opposite. All types of fraud could be used.

4AM ballot stuffing isn't distributed. It can't be distributed. There is no way for an ordinary person, poll worker, or election official to print and fill out valid ballots on the night after the election has concluded. That necessitates a massive, top-down conspiracy.

Easier to catch, but does not rule out that it may be done in a desperate moment.

Which is what is being described, right? So... where is this easy to catch dump or tens or hundreds of thousands of ballots?

A larger operation may collect ballots and hold them in reserve, in case they are needed at 4am. On a tangent, printing ballots from scratch is not addressed, or ruled out.

Collect whose ballots? Print whose ballots? What names are on these ballots?