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    Trump/Saudi Collusion: Laying Plans For More War In The Middle East

    “I don’t think that there will be any curtailing of Donald Trump as president,” he said. "He controls the media, he controls the sentiment [and] he controls everybody. He’s the one who will resort to executive orders more so than [President] Obama ever used them." - Ron Paul



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    Interesting that no one has commented on this yet.
    There is no spoon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ender View Post
    Interesting that no one has commented on this yet.
    What is there to be said that hasn't been said a 100x before? I think now it is obvious to anyone not a complete Trump toady that the man is just a cosmetic change to the position. The real issues of war, empire and corporate control of America would go on as usual. You get outrage so much that u lose some sensitivity to news like this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by juleswin View Post
    What is there to be said that hasn't been said a 100x before? I think now it is obvious to anyone not a complete Trump toady that the man is just a cosmetic change to the position. The real issues of war, empire and corporate control of America would go on as usual. You get outrage so much that u lose some sensitivity to news like this.
    I 1000% agree.

    Just mind-boggling that Trumpeteers are still exploding big time over any Tump plus/minuses on the Political forum, but rarely bother to listen to Ron Paul on the real issues.
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    Claiming that everything will just go on as usual doesn't make any rational sense. If that were the case, the media and the establishment would not be putting their credibility on the line, and smashing it, in order to try and make Trump look bad. They are throwing away what little good will the public has towards them every time they do it, so it doesn't make any sense for them to do that if business would be as usual with or without Trump.

    Some things may go on as usual, but we are already seeing some pretty massive positive changes taking place or about to take place on some of the domestic fronts. As far as foreign policy, we have been over this already. The other option besides Trump (Pence, or ANYBODY else who will realistically end up being POTUS) is going to carry on business as usual in all departments.. Whereas I think we will see Trump backing off in 6-12 months on foreign policy, whether it is because he believes goals have been achieved or because he isn't seeing progress and doesn't want to continue on with something that is not cost effective for Americans.

    If there were a special election being held between Trump and Rand, the choice would be obvious... but Trump vs. the establishment, THAT choice is pretty obvious as well.
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    God Bless Ron Paul for pointing out the taxpayer-provided lunch. LOL.

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    Hopefully President Donald will defeat the terrorists and bring the troops home while the Saudis keep buying weapons from us for purposes of self-defense.
    “I don’t think that there will be any curtailing of Donald Trump as president,” he said. "He controls the media, he controls the sentiment [and] he controls everybody. He’s the one who will resort to executive orders more so than [President] Obama ever used them." - Ron Paul

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    In principle, not a fan of wars by oppressive dictators and buyers of US politicians and it's unfortunate that many civilians, childrens of various races get killed/maimed, become refugees.. but what about many well paying jobs created in our weapons making industries that put food on the tables for many many of our own childrens? We have to be practical. Drain the swamp was never meant to put money above moral principles.



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    Quote Originally Posted by CPUd View Post
    In principle, not a fan of wars by oppressive dictators and buyers of US politicians and it's unfortunate that many civilians, childrens of various races get killed/maimed, become refugees.. but what about many well paying jobs created in our weapons making industries that put food on the tables for many many of our own childrens? We have to be practical. Drain the swamp was never meant to put money above moral principles or lives of foreign races civilians.



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