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    Spread this little known info about Ron Paul vs Paul Krugman!

    Ron predicted the crash while Krugman literally advocated housing bubble! See links: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLm7Sw402xE & http://blog.mises.org/10153/krugman-...ousing-bubble/



    Amazing quotes that show Krugman literally advocating for the Fed to create a housing bubble:
    Here is Paul Krugman from his blog trying to deny that he was a persistent advocate for the housing bubble and below that are quotes from him just prior to the bubble taking off. ht Benjamin Lee
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    “And I was on the grassy knoll, too”

    One of the funny aspects of being a somewhat, um, forceful writer is that I’m regularly accused of all sorts of villainy. I was personally responsible for the demise of Enron; my nonexistent son worked for Hillary; etc.. The latest seems to be that I called for the creation of a housing bubble.

    Paul Krugman

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    German Interview, undated

    http://www.pkarchive.org/global/welt.html

    “During phases of weak growth there are always those who say that lower interest rates will not help. They overlook the fact that low interest rates act through several channels. For instance, more housing is built, which expands the building sector. You must ask the opposite question: why in the world shouldn’t you lower interest rates?”

    May 2, 2001

    http://www.pkarchive.org/column/5201.html

    I’ve always favored the let-bygones-be-bygones view over the crime-and-punishment view. That is, I’ve always believed that a speculative bubble need not lead to a recession, as long as interest rates are cut quickly enough to stimulate alternative investments. But I had to face the fact that speculative bubbles usually are followed by recessions. My excuse has been that this was because the policy makers moved too slowly — that central banks were typically too slow to cut interest rates in the face of a burst bubble, giving the downturn time to build up a lot of momentum. That was why I, like many others, was frustrated at the smallish cut at the last Federal Open Market Committee meeting: I was pretty sure that Alan Greenspan had the tools to prevent a disastrous recession, but worried that he might be getting behind the curve.

    However, let’s give credit where credit is due: Mr. Greenspan has cut rates since then. And while some of us may have been urging him to move even faster, the Fed’s four interest-rate cuts since the slowdown became apparent represent an unusually aggressive response by historical standards. It’s still not clear that Mr. Greenspan has caught up with the curve — let’s have at least one more rate cut, please — but the interest-rate cuts do, cross your fingers, seem to be having an effect.

    If we succeed in avoiding recession, this will mark a big win for let- bygones-be-bygones, and a big loss for crime-and-punishment. And that will be very good news not just for this business cycle, but for business cycles to come.

    July 18, 2001

    http://www.pkarchive.org/economy/ML071801.html

    “KRUGMAN: I think frankly it’s got to be — business investment is not going to be the driving force in this recovery. It has to come from things like housing, things that have not been (UNINTELLIGIBLE).

    DOBBS: We see, Paul, housing at near record levels, we see automobile purchases near record levels. The consumer is still very much in this economy. Can he or she — or I should say he and she, can they bring back this economy?

    KRUGMAN: Well, as far as the arithmetic goes, yes, it is possible. Will the Fed cut interest rates enough? Will long-term rates fall enough to get the consumer, get the housing sector there in time? We don’t know”

    August 8^th 2001

    http://www.pkarchive.org/economy/ML082201.html

    “KRUGMAN: I’m a little depressed. You know, inventories, probably that’s over, the inventory slump. But you look at the things that could drive a recovery, business investment, nothing happening. Housing, long-term rates haven’t fallen enough to produce a boom there. The trade balance is going to get worst before it gets better because the dollar is still very strong. It’s not a happy picture.”

    August 14, 2001

    http://www.pkarchive.org/column/81401.html

    “Consumers, who already have low savings and high debt, probably can’t contribute much. But housing, which is highly sensitive to interest rates, could help lead a recovery…. But there has been a peculiar disconnect between Fed policy and the financial variables that affect housing and trade. Housing demand depends on long-term rather than short-term interest rates — and though the Fed has cut short rates from 6.5 to 3.75 percent since the beginning of the year, the 10-year rate is slightly higher than it was on Jan. 1…. Sooner or later, of course, investors will realize that 2001 isn’t 1998. When they do, mortgage rates and the dollar will come way down, and the conditions for a recovery led by housing and exports will be in place.

    October 7, 2001

    http://www.pkarchive.org/economy/ML071801.html

    “Post-terror nerves aside, what mainly ails the U.S. economy is too much of a good thing. During the bubble years businesses overspent on capital equipment; the resulting overhang of excess capacity is a drag on investment, and hence a drag on the economy as a whole.

    In time this overhang will be worked off. Meanwhile, economic policy should encourage other spending to offset the temporary slump in business investment. Low interest rates, which promote spending on housing and other durable goods, are the main answer. But it seems inevitable that there will also be a fiscal stimulus package”

    Dec 28, 2001

    http://www.pkarchive.org/column/122801.html

    “The good news about the U.S. economy is that it fell into recession, but it didn’t fall off a cliff. Most of the credit probably goes to the dogged optimism of American consumers, but the Fed’s dramatic interest rate cuts helped keep housing strong even as business investment plunged.”
    UPDATE: Amazing video of Ron Paul and Paul Krugman head to head leading up to the crisis. Awesome stuff (h/t IDefendthePlatform):

    Last edited by Libertea Party; 04-30-2012 at 09:41 PM.
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    This is incredibily damning stuff especially for us econ geeks. Spread far and wide!
    "The president does not have power under the Constitution to unilaterally authorize a military attack...that does not involve stopping an actual or imminent threat to the nation." "Attack Libya UPDATE 8/13: and Syria"

    "We can track down terrorists without trampling on our civil liberties.... the federal government will only issue warrants and execute searches because it needs to, not because it can." "Need to murder UPDATE 8/13: and track citizens" ~ Barack H. Obama

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    Head to Head quotations of Paul vs Paul leading up to the housing crisis:


    Probably takes a little more prior economic knowledge to really digest but still makes a good complement to the video in the op.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IDefendThePlatform View Post
    Head to Head quotations of Paul vs Paul leading up to the housing crisis:


    Probably takes a little more prior economic knowledge to really digest but still makes a good complement to the video in the op.
    Wow this is awesome. I'll try to promote this as well but you're right it's a little more technical. Really great stuff.
    "The president does not have power under the Constitution to unilaterally authorize a military attack...that does not involve stopping an actual or imminent threat to the nation." "Attack Libya UPDATE 8/13: and Syria"

    "We can track down terrorists without trampling on our civil liberties.... the federal government will only issue warrants and execute searches because it needs to, not because it can." "Need to murder UPDATE 8/13: and track citizens" ~ Barack H. Obama

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    Yeah, its common knowledge for Econ nuts but no one else knows or cares about it. lol

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    You know I forget about these Krugman quotes and when I revisit them these many years later they are more embarrassing with the passage of time.
    "The president does not have power under the Constitution to unilaterally authorize a military attack...that does not involve stopping an actual or imminent threat to the nation." "Attack Libya UPDATE 8/13: and Syria"

    "We can track down terrorists without trampling on our civil liberties.... the federal government will only issue warrants and execute searches because it needs to, not because it can." "Need to murder UPDATE 8/13: and track citizens" ~ Barack H. Obama

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    Quote Originally Posted by IDefendThePlatform View Post
    Head to Head quotations of Paul vs Paul leading up to the housing crisis:


    Probably takes a little more prior economic knowledge to really digest but still makes a good complement to the video in the op.
    I put that on the front page.
    "Integrity means having to say things that people don't want to hear & especially to say things that the regime doesn't want to hear.” -Ron Paul

    "Bathtub falls and police officers kill more Americans than terrorism, yet we've been asked to sacrifice our most sacred rights for fear of falling victim to it." -Edward Snowden



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    Quote Originally Posted by sailingaway View Post
    I put that on the front page.
    HAHA! Nice!

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    If Austrianism vs Keynesianism was a court case the verdict would've been decided in our favor years ago.



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