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    Pat Buchanan calls for intervention in Nigeria




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    jeeze all this focus on Nigeria, they must've found the Mt. Fuji of gold mines there
    A savage barbaric tribal society where thugs parade the streets and illegally assault and murder innocent civilians, yeah that is the alternative to having police. Oh wait, that is the police

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    I love (not really) the caption underneath the video on YouTube:

    "Sign the petition to arrest Marxist collaborator Marco Rubio at mofopolitics.com"

    I wasn't aware arrest was a matter of petition and argumentum ad populum. Holy anti-libertarian (not that Rubio is libertarian or anything - although his immigration stance was hardly as anti-liberty as the closed border conservative crowd's and its base's stance, which is partly why he's being called a "Marxist collaborator").

    Nigeria isn't our problem. I hate to be callous, but there it is. Why is the kidnapping and forced conversion of 200 girls any more tragic than the far more than 200 innocent people, including children, our government has murdered with drones simply for being in the wrong place at the wrong time (like at a wedding where some suspected terrorist was)? And Boko Haram hates us...big deal. When they get nukes and an ICBM (and aim it at us), let me know.
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    Buchanan has spent too much time in the media world... he's becoming one of them.

    The correct answer is it's none of our business.

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    white republican guilt. What he's really saying is, 'republicans are perceived as racist, and we (repubs) have a chance to get some positive PR by helping those 'black folks'..and to hell with the Constitution.

    that is all.....

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    Its non of US business. Their interference in Libya has helped the many radical islamic groups in the area to upgrade their arsenal and now Pat want em to intervene some more?

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    Quote Originally Posted by thoughtomator View Post
    Buchanan has spent too much time in the media world... he's becoming one of them.
    Yep. Hannity has been saying the exact same thing since day one on this. Buchanan went on Hannity radio, and now Buchanan is parroting Hannity.

    Mogadishu, all over again...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    Yep. Hannity has been saying the exact same thing since day one on this. Buchanan went on Hannity radio, and now Buchanan is parroting Hannity.

    Mogadishu, all over again...
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    Quote Originally Posted by ProIndividual View Post
    I love (not really) the caption underneath the video on YouTube:

    "Sign the petition to arrest Marxist collaborator Marco Rubio at mofopolitics.com"

    I wasn't aware arrest was a matter of petition and argumentum ad populum. Holy anti-libertarian (not that Rubio is libertarian or anything - although his immigration stance was hardly as anti-liberty as the closed border conservative crowd's and its base's stance, which is partly why he's being called a "Marxist collaborator").
    Yes, because being an open border one-worlder is oh so pro-freedom.

    Nigeria isn't our problem. I hate to be callous, but there it is. Why is the kidnapping and forced conversion of 200 girls any more tragic than the far more than 200 innocent people, including children, our government has murdered with drones simply for being in the wrong place at the wrong time (like at a wedding where some suspected terrorist was)? And Boko Haram hates us...big deal. When they get nukes and an ICBM (and aim it at us), let me know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ProIndividual View Post
    Why is the kidnapping and forced conversion of 200 girls any more tragic than the far more than 200 innocent people, including children, our government has murdered with drones simply for being in the wrong place at the wrong time (like at a wedding where some suspected terrorist was)? And Boko Haram hates us...big deal. When they get nukes and an ICBM (and aim it at us), let me know.
    Good point, but also think of the hundreds of innocent Nigerians that will be killed by us if we send troops and drones into Nigeria to rescue the 200 girls.

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    With what money, Pat?

    We're $#@!ing BROKE! No one cares to realize this...
    It's just an opinion... man...

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    Pat put himself in a corner here. It reminded me of how Gary Johnson did same during an interview on FOX news.
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    Won't go to war in Nigeria = racist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Won't go to war in Nigeria = racist.
    Nifty how that works out for them, as tptb rub their fat, greedy hands together drooling over the oil and uranium, not to mention gold. They just needed a crisis to put the plan in action.
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    So long as mists envelop you, be still;
    be still until the sunlight pours through and dispels the mists
    -- as it surely will.
    Then act with courage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LibertyEagle View Post
    Yes, because being an open border one-worlder is oh so pro-freedom.
    Yes, because Rubio is an "open border one-worlder".

    Sure, his legislation is far from perfect, one of the problems being that it goes too far on E-verify and not far enough on securing the existing border, and I'm glad Rand's amendment tried to stop that, but ultimately we need to do something with the illegals and we can't just deport them. We need at least some form of immigration reform legislation and I'm glad Rubio (and Cato, who were involved in writing it) have put something of substance on the table, regardless of its deep flaws.

    What are you for? A ban on all immigration to prevent strain on the welfare state? Legal immigration has as much of an impact on that as illegal immigration.

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    I thought he of all people would know better.
    Stop believing stupid things



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    Quote Originally Posted by Tywysog Cymru View Post
    I thought he of all people would know better.
    with that being said, at the end of the day, it is what it is. Pats a party first kinda guy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    Yep. Hannity has been saying the exact same thing since day one on this. Buchanan went on Hannity radio, and now Buchanan is parroting Hannity.

    Mogadishu, all over again...
    Yet "anti-state" and "anti-war" Lew Rockwell continues to give Buchanan a regular platform on his site, with 37 articles this year.

    https://www.lewrockwell.com/author/patrick-j-buchanan/

    http://fauxcapitalist.com/2013/12/27...-lew-rockwell/

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    People are reading too much into this.

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    Great. Just give us a congressional declaration of war against Nigeria and we're there..Maybe we can make it a package deal and make permanent stops in Uganda and the Sudan as well.
    Last edited by anaconda; 05-25-2014 at 07:48 PM.

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    What Pat says on a talk show has always leaned more establishmentarian than what he writes in print. His non-interventionism is far more consistent and nuanced in his columns and books, so his on-air concessions should be taken merely as his strategic way of keeping his mainstream TV and radio spot.
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    Daniel Hannan (libertarian British politician; Paul supporter) is sounding a lot like Buchanan on this issue.

    I’m no great fan of military adventures. I supported the first Iraq War, but not the second. I opposed the establishment of a permanent garrison in Afghanistan, and I argued against bombing Syria. In this instance, though, if the Nigerians want our assistance, I’ll cheer along with everyone else. If it helps, I’ll even hold up a placard saying #SmashBokoHaram.
    http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/da...nt-in-nigeria/

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    It's sad to see people fall for the bleeding heart, "it's for the children" aggression and counterproductive emotional lashing out.
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    Pat, now officially on the hypocrite list. Just because the world may be behind us and US does the best job?

    $#@!, what war CAN'T we justify using this logic?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    It's sad to see people fall for the bleeding heart, "it's for the children" aggression and counterproductive emotional lashing out.
    Conservatives are all about children, or else they wouldn't oppose abortion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tywysog Cymru View Post
    I thought he of all people would know better.
    he's been accused of racism and apathy for too long, time to win some liberal points when it's easy. Say no to empire, unless the world is behind you and US can do the best job at helping...

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    Quote Originally Posted by TaftFan View Post
    People are reading too much into this.
    Or not enough. I don't know.

    I generally like Pat, he's usually pretty fair--but then this crap comes out of nowhere. He's not a clown like Beck, or a doofus like Palin. He's usually consistent, but then he'll say crap like this and it breaks the so-called trust I had in that fellow. It is what it is, he said it, and it doesn't jibe with his generally non-interventionist foreign policy views--he's being a hypocrite and many people would like to know why. I would, because I want to like him, but this is just a little more of a push towards irrelevance for him, in my opinion.

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    Nigeria has underexploited mineral resources its pretty obvious why all of sudden this has became an interest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NoOneButPaul View Post
    With what money, Pat?

    We're $#@!ing BROKE! No one cares to realize this...
    Pat of all people would know this empire is broke, he's written too many books on this.

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