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    New Jersey gun control bill passes Assembly; heads to Chris Christie

    http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/...A4L13I20140522

    The New Jersey state Assembly on Thursday sent Governor Chris Christie a gun control bill that would limit the capacity of gun ammunition magazines, but it was unclear whether the Republican governor would sign the measure into law.

    The bill, approved in the Assembly by a 44-34 vote, would cut the maximum capacity of gun magazines to 10 from 15.
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    I am very much looking forward to Chris Christie showing his progressive colors here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleaner44 View Post
    I am very much looking forward to Chris Christie showing his progressive colors here.
    Me too, i'm pretty sure the gist of the speech after he signs it will be "I think this is a bad bill, but it's what the people of NJ want so i'm letting them have it". Blah, blah, blah.

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    I really want him to sign it.

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    I think he will Veto it. & if he does, folks here should give him credit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vita3 View Post
    I think he will Veto it. & if he does, folks here should give him credit.
    yep, i think he'll veto it, but to give him credit?....for what?...following the Constitution?...equals, doing what he swore an oath to.

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    Most people on here just bitch & moan about Christie. If he stands up for NJ citizen gun rights, he absolutely deserves credit.

    Even on this forum where it's always bitch & moan about the man.



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    Quote Originally Posted by vita3 View Post
    Most people on here just bitch & moan about Christie. If he stands up for NJ citizen gun rights, he absolutely deserves credit.
    Even on this forum where it's always bitch & moan about the man.
    I would applaud him for it; but doubt that will happen. And I would applaud him knowing full well that he is only doing it because of presidential ambitions. He is on record as for more anti gun laws.

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    Should be a good gauge on if he's going run in 2016, no way he'll sign it if it he is. Christie deserves no credit because he's a liar and a manipulator.

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    yeah God forbid we don't give Christy a parade if he vetoes. Hell, just give him a one year at Golds Gym.
    Last edited by JK/SEA; 05-23-2014 at 02:46 PM.

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    We will send you to prison if your gun holds 5 more bullets than we allow, AMERIKA....FREEDOM...LEADING BY EXAMPLE....AMERICAN EXCEPTIONALISM
    A society that places equality before freedom with get neither; A society that places freedom before equality will yield high degrees of both

    Make a move and plead the 5th because you can't plead the 1st

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    Chris Christie:

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    On Gun Control:

    Q: You support some gun controls. Why?

    A: When you look at what we've done in New Jersey, we want to control violence. And some of that may involve firearms, but a lot of it doesn't. In fact, my focus has been on making sure that mental health is done in a much more aggressive way. Every time we see one of these incidents happen across our country, it is almost exclusively with a deeply disturbed person at the helm, and what we need to do is be much more aggressive about how we deal with mental health issues in this country. So I am for violence control.

    Q: But gun control is part of it.

    A: Well, it can be. And I've signed some of those measures, but I've also vetoed measures that I thought were overreaching and not consistent with 2nd Amendment rights. It is looking at these things case by case, to see does it make common sense, does it control violence? We need to not pander on these issues. We need to have adults in the room who make decisions based upon controlling violence in our society.
    Source: Fox News Sunday 2013 interview of Chris Christie , Nov 10, 2013

    Vetoed outright ban on Barrett .50 caliber rifle
    On gun control, Christie explained why he vetoed an outright ban on the powerful Barrett .50 caliber rifle, even though he initially proposed a ban on future purchases. He blamed Democrats for going back on their word during negotiations with him. "If they break a deal with me, then there's going to be ramifications," Christie said. "They didn't keep their word on this."

    Buono said she believes Christie changed his mind after he received a letter from gun rights advocates in New Hampshire, the site of the nation's first presidential primary.
    Source: Newark Star-Ledger on 2013 N.J. Governor debates , Oct 16, 2013

    We already have too many firearms in our community
    We already have too many firearms in our community In April 1993 Christie announced that he would challenge incumbent state senator John Dorsey, an 18-year lawmaker, in the Republican primary. It was a big and brassy move because Dorsey was the Senate majority leader. We already have too many firearms in our community NJ's ban on semiautomatic weapons. The ban was among the signature pieces of legislation passed.

    "The issue which has energized me to get into this race is the recent attempt by certain Republican legislators to repeal NJ's ban on assault weapons.
    Source: Rise to Power, by B. Ingle & M. Symons, p. 45-46 , Jun 5, 2012

    2009: No right-to-carry cross-state reciprocity
    The governor opposed a move in Congress that would effectively override NJ's strict laws against concealed weapons although NJ's entire Republican House delegation voted for it. The "right-to-carry reciprocity" bill would allow anyone with a valid permit to carry in their home state the same right in any other state. In NJ holders of carry permits from other states must lock their guns up when entering the Garden State.

    "I believe that each state should have the right to make firearms laws as they see fit. I don't believe it's right for the federal government to get into the middle of this and decide firearms laws for the people of the state of NJ," Christie told "The Record" in July 2009.
    Source: Rise to Power, by B. Ingle & M. Symons, p.253 , Jun 5, 2012

    Favors gun control measures from law-enforcement perspective
    In 2009, Christie said on Fox News with Sean Hannity that he supported some gun control measures:

    Q: Are there any issues where you are moderate to left as a Republican?

    A: I favor some of the gun-control measures we have in NJ.

    Q: Bad idea.

    A: We have a densely populated state, and there's a big handgun problem in NJ. On certain gun control issues, looking at it from a law-enforcement perspective, seeing how many police officers were killed, we have an illegal gun problem in NJ.

    Q: Should every citizen in your state be allowed to get a licensed weapon if they want one?

    A: In NJ, that's not going to happen.

    Q: Why?

    A: With the Democratic legislature we have, there's no way those type of things--

    Q: Would you support it?

    A: What I support are commonsense laws that will allow people to protect themselves, but I also am very concerned about the safety of our police officers on the streets, very concerned. And I want to make sure that we don't have an abundance of guns out there"

    http://www.ontheissues.org/Chris_Chr...tm#Gun_Control

    Last edited by No1butPaul; 05-23-2014 at 05:53 PM.
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