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    Tesla: Chris Christie's move is 'affront to the very concept of a free market'

    This is good ammo for those "pro-business" moderates who looooove Christie..


    http://green.autoblog.com/2014/03/11...o-free-market/

    Tesla has a special history with the state of New Jersey, having delivered the 500th Roadster there in 2009. Fast forward to 2014, though, and the electric vehicle company is having a decidedly less-positive experience in the Garden State. In short, Tesla's ongoing dealer fight has turned sour, and thing are potentially going from bad to worse today.

    Tesla says it has been working "constructively" with the New Jersey Motor Vehicle Commission (NJMVC) and Governor Chris Christie's administration "to defend against the New Jersey Coalition of Automotive Retailers' (NJ CAR) attacks on Tesla's business model and the rights of New Jersey consumers." In other words, the right for Tesla to open its own stores and not use the traditional dealer model. The legislative process on the fate of Proposal PRN 2013-138 (PDF) has been continuing and Tesla says it thought everyone was acting in good faith, but now it's not so sure. In a new official blog post, Tesla says:
    Unfortunately, Monday we received news that Governor Christie's administration has gone back on its word to delay a proposed anti-Tesla regulation so that the matter could be handled through a fair process in the Legislature. The Administration has decided to go outside the legislative process by expediting a rule proposal that would completely change the law in New Jersey. This new rule, if adopted, would curtail Tesla's sales operations and jeopardize our existing retail licenses in the state. ... This is an affront to the very concept of a free market.

    A meeting on the proposal is scheduled to take place this afternoon, and Tesla is not happy about it. In Ohio last year, Tesla asked for immediate help to stop a similar bill, which ended up working. For a while.

    Last year, New Jersey started considering an EV-only tax that would cost EV drivers about $100 a year, but that appears to have been scrapped.
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    Free trade.

    This country is a joke.

    Vroooom VRooom




    No wait. I guess it is Wurrrrr wurrrrr.


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    I just can't stand this news going around all day on liberal sites without anyone seeing the hypocrisy. And now on this forum?!

    Suddenly Musk is talking free market? Real..$#@!ing...ly!? Tesla Co is built on government grants and subsidies...are people here on the ronpaulforums even serious?

    Certainly they are bull$#@! on both sides, but if you're siding with Tesla on this one, what are you even doing here?

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    it's true some rpfers are kinda retarded but i don't see any excessively pro tesla comments here

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    It doesn't have to be excessive to see the ignorance. Hell, I might even think Christie did the right thing. Tesla Co is not a product of the free market, so treat it like it's not! If the corrupted law doesn't allow other companies to have direct sells, why should Tesla be exempted?
    Last edited by Nolan; 03-11-2014 at 11:08 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nolan View Post
    I just can't stand this news going around all day on liberal sites without anyone seeing the hypocrisy. And now on this forum?!

    Suddenly Musk is talking free market? Real..$#@!ing...ly!? Tesla Co is built on government grants and subsidies...are people here on the ronpaulforums even serious?

    Certainly they are bull$#@! on both sides, but if you're siding with Tesla on this one, what are you even doing here?
    Nobody here said Tesla wasn't founded on government funding, what are you talking about? The fact of the matter is, the auto industry can thrive on it's own merits but most states don't even allow manufacturers to directly sell their cars, it is a mafia stranglehold for the dealership network.

    Tesla isn't completely birthed by the free market but that doesn't mean they shouldn't have a chance to compete in the free market, two wrongs don't necessarily make a right.

    This thread was created here to the relevance of Christie's free market positions vs Rand's, if you want to Tesla bash, take it to general topics???
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nolan View Post
    I just can't stand this news going around all day on liberal sites without anyone seeing the hypocrisy. And now on this forum?!

    Suddenly Musk is talking free market? Real..$#@!ing...ly!? Tesla Co is built on government grants and subsidies...are people here on the ronpaulforums even serious?

    Certainly they are bull$#@! on both sides, but if you're siding with Tesla on this one, what are you even doing here?

    States arent rejecting Tesla because they aren't free market and have gotten subsidies though, theyre doing it because someone is paying them because Tesla is a threat to their $#@!ed up status quo.
    A society that places equality before freedom with get neither; A society that places freedom before equality will yield high degrees of both

    Make a move and plead the 5th because you can't plead the 1st

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    Wow, Nolan, jumping the gun there a bit aren't you?

    Regardless, everyone involved in this case are affronts to the concept of a free market.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nolan View Post
    I just can't stand this news going around all day on liberal sites without anyone seeing the hypocrisy. And now on this forum?!

    Suddenly Musk is talking free market? Real..$#@!ing...ly!? Tesla Co is built on government grants and subsidies...are people here on the ronpaulforums even serious?

    Certainly they are bull$#@! on both sides, but if you're siding with Tesla on this one, what are you even doing here?
    This isn't about Tesla it's about Christi doing the wrong thing. He's stifling an American car manufacturer and eliminating choice from the consumer. Opinions on Tesla aren't relevant.

    ...

    But I do want one...



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