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    "We've all been quite content to conspire to produce an unaware and compliant citizenry."

    Mission accomplished.

    http://www.infowars.com/clinton-camp...ant-citizenry/

    “And as I’ve mentioned, we’ve all been quite content to demean government, drop civics and in general conspire to produce an unaware and compliant citizenry,” he writes.



    “The unawareness remains strong but compliance is obviously fading rapidly. This problem demands some serious, serious thinking – and not just poll driven, demographically-inspired messaging.”

    To emphasize, Ivey admits that the left has ‘conspired’ to “produce an unaware and compliant citizenry” but that they’re not as easy to manipulate anymore and that this is a problem. He characterizes “unawareness” amongst the public as a positive thing for the Clinton campaign.

    Ivey ends the email by saying he will attend a Clinton fundraiser and that he fears, “we are all now trying to navigate a set of forces that cannot be simply explained or fully understood.”

    The email is a shocking insight into the elitist and arrogant mindset that pervades the Clinton campaign, with Americans viewed as dumb sheep who need to be herded in the right direction.
    Based on the idea of natural rights, government secures those rights to the individual by strictly negative intervention, making justice costless and easy of access; and beyond that it does not go. The State, on the other hand, both in its genesis and by its primary intention, is purely anti-social. It is not based on the idea of natural rights, but on the idea that the individual has no rights except those that the State may provisionally grant him. It has always made justice costly and difficult of access, and has invariably held itself above justice and common morality whenever it could advantage itself by so doing.
    --Albert J. Nock



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    Has anyone seen any of these many new revelations mentioned on mainstream media? I saw one quick segment on Fox News, and they insinuated that the leaks are fake, and were created by Putin.

    They are doubling down on lying to the American people to keep them "unaware and compliant".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    Has anyone seen any of these many new revelations mentioned on mainstream media? I saw one quick segment on Fox News, and they insinuated that the leaks are fake, and were created by Putin.

    They are doubling down on lying to the American people to keep them "unaware and compliant".
    Y'all seen Terminator: Salvation?

    Have this weird feeling that this wikileaks stuff is like the fake "signal".

    We see it as the way to take down the beast.

    Perhaps they see it as the way to identify the resistance.

    Things are definitely getting spooky. Best strategy right now, get right with God. I honestly don't see anything more productive than that at this point in the game.
    When a trumpet sounds in a city, do not the people tremble?
    When disaster comes to a city, has not the Lord caused it? Amos 3:6

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    Quote Originally Posted by wizardwatson View Post
    Y'all seen Terminator: Salvation?

    Have this weird feeling that this wikileaks stuff is like the fake "signal".

    We see it as the way to take down the beast.

    Perhaps they see it as the way to identify the resistance.

    Things are definitely getting spooky. Best strategy right now, get right with God. I honestly don't see anything more productive than that at this point in the game.
    The NWO will be dealt a fatal blow. Then the antichrist will heal it--that is the sixth trump, six vial, six seal. He will come in peacefully and prosperously.

    Revelation 13:3 (KJV)
    3 And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast.
    “The spirits of darkness are now among us. We have to be on guard so that we may realize what is happening when we encounter them and gain a real idea of where they are to be found. The most dangerous thing you can do in the immediate future will be to give yourself up unconsciously to the influences which are definitely present.” ~ Rudolf Steiner

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    Based on the idea of natural rights, government secures those rights to the individual by strictly negative intervention, making justice costless and easy of access; and beyond that it does not go. The State, on the other hand, both in its genesis and by its primary intention, is purely anti-social. It is not based on the idea of natural rights, but on the idea that the individual has no rights except those that the State may provisionally grant him. It has always made justice costly and difficult of access, and has invariably held itself above justice and common morality whenever it could advantage itself by so doing.
    --Albert J. Nock

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    They discussed the latest leaks on The Five on Fox. They started with the "leaks might be fake, from Putin." They talked about the Saudi Arabia supports ISIS, and Perino said it was all very reasonable and standard. Shocking from a Bush neocon Saudi apologist. They talked about an email about prep for Hillary before Benghazi hearing, discussing how angry Hillary should be. Said it is standard candidate prep.

    One guy that is not a regular said it was shocking how self-centered all of the emails were, and they shot that down as of course, it's just mundane emails.

    If the MSM addresses this at all, they having their talking points. "Nothing to see here, and if there is anything, it's a fake created by Putin". They have no shame. Keep America ignorant, unaware and compliant.
    "Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
    "Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Pharma-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
    "Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul

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    If Trump were a real candidate, he would hit her and her surrogates with some of the facts from these emails....

    Ask a simple question: "Hillary, did you say that ignorant voters are our best key to win?"

    etc....

    This whole thing is such a scam
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    We've all been quite content to conspire to produce an unaware and compliant citizenry
    No, you didn't produce it.

    No more than you produced the law of gravity.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    They discussed the latest leaks on The Five on Fox. They started with the "leaks might be fake, from Putin." They talked about the Saudi Arabia supports ISIS, and Perino said it was all very reasonable and standard. Shocking from a Bush neocon Saudi apologist. They talked about an email about prep for Hillary before Benghazi hearing, discussing how angry Hillary should be. Said it is standard candidate prep.

    One guy that is not a regular said it was shocking how self-centered all of the emails were, and they shot that down as of course, it's just mundane emails.

    If the MSM addresses this at all, they having their talking points. "Nothing to see here, and if there is anything, it's a fake created by Putin". They have no shame. Keep America ignorant, unaware and compliant.
    Fox is in part owned by Saudi prince.

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    Democrats, the people that this is targeting, will read this (maybe), and instead of directing their anger at the people plotting these shenanigans behind the scenes, will instead misdirect their anger to Trump and "the Russians". And so the same old problem will go on and on for an entire mass of human incompetency.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Champuckett View Post
    Democrats, the people that this is targeting, will read this (maybe), and instead of directing their anger at the people plotting these shenanigans behind the scenes, will instead misdirect their anger to Trump and "the Russians". And so the same old problem will go on and on for an entire mass of human incompetency.
    This is embarrassingly accurate.
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    Funny to watch the media scrambling to deny their own complicity. The Emperor is wearing no clothes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    They discussed the latest leaks on The Five on Fox. They started with the "leaks might be fake, from Putin." They talked about the Saudi Arabia supports ISIS, and Perino said it was all very reasonable and standard. Shocking from a Bush neocon Saudi apologist. They talked about an email about prep for Hillary before Benghazi hearing, discussing how angry Hillary should be. Said it is standard candidate prep.

    One guy that is not a regular said it was shocking how self-centered all of the emails were, and they shot that down as of course, it's just mundane emails.

    If the MSM addresses this at all, they having their talking points. "Nothing to see here, and if there is anything, it's a fake created by Putin". They have no shame. Keep America ignorant, unaware and compliant.
    This is what I have been saying since I joined the forum:



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    Quote Originally Posted by Ender View Post
    There is no right/left- there is only The Matrix.

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    Still waiting for that Wikileaks dump "nail in the coffin" for Hillary.

    Just like I'm waiting for the secret billionaire for Ron Paul
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    They are coming home, all the naysayers said they would never leave Syria and then they said they were going to stay in Iraq forever.

    It won't take very long to get them home but it won't be overnight either but Iraq says they can't stay and they are coming home just like Trump said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Trump had to donate the "right way" and hang out with the "right people" in order to do business in NYC and Hollyweird and in order to investigate and expose them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Champuckett View Post
    Democrats, the people that this is targeting, will read this (maybe), and instead of directing their anger at the people plotting these shenanigans behind the scenes, will instead misdirect their anger to Trump and "the Russians". And so the same old problem will go on and on for an entire mass of human incompetency.
    So true!



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    Quote Originally Posted by euphemia View Post
    Funny to watch the media scrambling to deny their own complicity. The Emperor is wearing no clothes.
    And people just don't want to notice, of they are too conditioned to notice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by timosman View Post
    Time to wake up.

    There is no spoon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    No, you didn't produce it.

    No more than you produced the law of gravity.
    Sure they did. Government education. They also have the media. And the long march through the institutions, and incrementalism, worked like a charm.

    The progs own this country, and have for over 100 years. All of American politics and political thought since the Progressive Era revolve around their "accomplishments," or what else they want to do (to us) which they eventually get.

    While they often overstep and piss everyone off (because their plans gang aft agley), and the internet has proven to be slightly problematic for them, the fact remains that the progs have created a flock of timid and industrious animals, of which the government is the shepherd.
    Based on the idea of natural rights, government secures those rights to the individual by strictly negative intervention, making justice costless and easy of access; and beyond that it does not go. The State, on the other hand, both in its genesis and by its primary intention, is purely anti-social. It is not based on the idea of natural rights, but on the idea that the individual has no rights except those that the State may provisionally grant him. It has always made justice costly and difficult of access, and has invariably held itself above justice and common morality whenever it could advantage itself by so doing.
    --Albert J. Nock

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ender View Post
    Time to wake up.
    The illusion of choice.


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    Quote Originally Posted by timosman View Post
    The illusion of choice.

    Or the freedom to choose......

    Last edited by Ender; 10-13-2016 at 12:29 AM.
    There is no spoon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ender View Post
    Or the freedom to choose......
    Oracle was just another control mechanism.

    Last edited by timosman; 10-13-2016 at 12:36 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by timosman View Post
    Oracle was just another control mechanism.

    Disagree. her purpose was to wake him up.

    There is no spoon.

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    This $#@! just got serious.
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    Based on the idea of natural rights, government secures those rights to the individual by strictly negative intervention, making justice costless and easy of access; and beyond that it does not go. The State, on the other hand, both in its genesis and by its primary intention, is purely anti-social. It is not based on the idea of natural rights, but on the idea that the individual has no rights except those that the State may provisionally grant him. It has always made justice costly and difficult of access, and has invariably held itself above justice and common morality whenever it could advantage itself by so doing.
    --Albert J. Nock

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    Snopes says this is false, because they gave Bill Ivey a chance to rephrase what he meant.

    http://www.snopes.com/clinton-compliant-citizenry/

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    Quote Originally Posted by buck000 View Post
    Snopes says this is false, because they gave Bill Ivey a chance to rephrase what he meant.

    http://www.snopes.com/clinton-compliant-citizenry/
    LOL Well, we know that'll be good enough for several members here who hang on snopes' every word.
    Based on the idea of natural rights, government secures those rights to the individual by strictly negative intervention, making justice costless and easy of access; and beyond that it does not go. The State, on the other hand, both in its genesis and by its primary intention, is purely anti-social. It is not based on the idea of natural rights, but on the idea that the individual has no rights except those that the State may provisionally grant him. It has always made justice costly and difficult of access, and has invariably held itself above justice and common morality whenever it could advantage itself by so doing.
    --Albert J. Nock

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucille View Post
    Sure they did. Government education. They also have the media. And the long march through the institutions, and incrementalism, worked like a charm.

    The progs own this country, and have for over 100 years. All of American politics and political thought since the Progressive Era revolve around their "accomplishments," or what else they want to do (to us) which they eventually get.

    While they often overstep and piss everyone off (because their plans gang aft agley), and the internet has proven to be slightly problematic for them, the fact remains that the progs have created a flock of timid and industrious animals, of which the government is the shepherd.
    The people have always been that way (easily impressionable, naive, irrational, etc), and always will be.

    The progressives steered the herd in a particular direction, but they didn't make the herd herd-like.

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