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Thread: Q3 $ summary for active GOP candidates - RP a solid 3

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    Q3 $ summary for active GOP candidates - RP a solid 3

    There are three ways of looking at the Q3 picture. The amount of "Money Raised" is a good indicator of support. The amount of "Cash on Hand" shows the liquid spending potential going forward. The amount of "Cash on Hand minus Debt" shows the bottom-line financial situation. Perry and Romney are (not surprisingly) 1st & 2nd in all categories. Ron Paul is a solid 3rd in all the calculation methods. I should also note, Bachman is above Cain in all the categories. Everyone else looks somewhat grim.
    Below I assembled the breakdown for all ten candidates, ranked in order using the three categories mentioned above. I figured it would be good to have this all in one place.
    [edit: Added "Money Spent" - just for fun.
    ]
    [edit2: Adjusted Bachmann's numbers to account for her second campaign fund (yea, she has two) - Doesn't change anything.]

    [MONEY RAISED Q3 2011]

    01 Perry.....$17,200,232.07
    02 Romney....$14,222,570.66
    03 Paul.......$8,268,499.92
    04 Huntsman...$4,514,188.95
    05 Bachmann...$4,107,394.70 (3,907,748.06 + 199,646.64)
    06 Cain.......$2,813,341.52
    07 Gingrich.....$807,962.45
    08 Santorum.....$704,199.37
    09 Johnson......$236,193.77
    10 Karger........$89,684.94

    [CASH ON HAND end-Q3 2011]
    01 Perry.....$15,078,415.22
    02 Romney....$14,656,965.83
    03 Paul.......$3,674,768.16
    04 Bachmann...$1,545,772.13 (1,339,184.10 + 206,588.03)
    05 Cain.......$1,333,778.56
    06 Gingrich.....$353,416.71
    07 Huntsman.....$327,614.50
    08 Santorum.....$189,556.94
    09 Karger........$12,581.62
    10 Johnson.......$10,882.33

    [CASH ON HAND minus DEBT end-Q3 2011]
    01 Perry.....$14,739,295.49
    02 Romney....$14,656,965.83
    03 Paul.......$3,674,768.16
    04 Bachmann.....$996,168.06 (789,580.03 + 206,588.03)
    05 Cain.........$658,778.56
    06 Santorum.....$117,690.75
    07 Karger........$12,581.62
    08 Johnson.....-$229,184.55
    09 Gingrich....-$839,449.11
    10 Huntsman..-$2,817,979.25

    Also of interest:

    [MONEY SPENT Q3 2011]

    01
    Romney....$12,281,100.24
    02 Paul.......$7,559,908.76
    03 Bachmann...$6,206,328.13 (5,947,630.95 + 258,697.18)
    04 Huntsman...$4,186,574.45
    05 Perry......$2,121,816.85
    06 Cain.......$1,967,152.00
    07 Gingrich.....$776,767.90
    08 Santorum.....$743,757.29
    09 Johnson......$231,317.99
    10
    Karger........$79,407.09

    I assembled and calculated all data directly from the FEC: http://query.nictusa.com/pres/2011/Q3/
    Last edited by PauliticsPolitics; 10-15-2011 at 07:29 PM.



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    +rep!

    Plus Paul has another million in his Congressional account if he needs it.
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    Huntsman , seriously what is the point ?
    You are the Universe experiencing itself

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    Quote Originally Posted by sailingaway View Post
    +rep!

    Plus Paul has another million in his Congressional account if he needs it.
    I thought he already transferred that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sailingaway View Post
    +rep!

    Plus Paul has another million in his Congressional account if he needs it.
    Yea, but that will likely be counted in Q4, assuming he transfers it in the next few months. Regardless, RP is a solid 3rd, even if the media keeps talking about the Cain Train (which in financial reality is 5th at best.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by sailingaway View Post
    +rep!

    Plus Paul has another million in his Congressional account if he needs it.
    He already transferred $500,000 of it in Q3, according to his FEC report:

    http://query.nictusa.com/pres/2011/Q3/C00495820.html

    The "Detailed Summary" section shows $7.67M from individual contributions and $500,000 from an authorized committee.
    Rand Paul is in the top 1% of US Senators.

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    Quote Originally Posted by afwjam View Post
    I thought he already transferred that?
    I believe RP transferred some of his Congressional Campaign fund, but not all yet. I'd have to look into it, but I think he had something like 2mil in there. I think he transferred $500 in Q2, and I know he transferred $500K in Q3. Maybe he is budgeting it, dumping a bit each quarter. Or maybe he will dump all the rest in on BTO, who knows.
    Last edited by PauliticsPolitics; 10-15-2011 at 05:13 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by afwjam View Post
    I thought he already transferred that?
    http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...93#post3652493



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    Romney is definitely holding his money in the powder keg. I wonder what he is planning on spending that on down the line? Paul spent alot Q3 because part of our plan was to get ahead early, but it seems Perry and Romney really haven't spent much yet. Perry is done either way, but I am worried about Romney's 14 mil that he simply hasn't really touched.

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    Quote Originally Posted by afwjam View Post
    I thought he already transferred that?
    nope, it is the emergency fund. our man plans ahead for troubled times.

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    We can out fund-raise Cain's entire 3Q this Wednesday. Be sure to emphasize that when promoting the BTO moneybomb.
    "Setting a good example is a far better way to spread ideals than through force of arms." -Ron Paul

    Ron Paul 2012!

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    These numbers highlight how much we need to raise a huge amount in this next money bomb. He may be a solid third place, but that's a very glass-is-half-full way of looking at these numbers.

    Romney has more on hand than he received for the quarter, meaning he took in money last quarter faster than he could spend it and he's just stashing that all away for his blitzkrieg from December on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chris41336 View Post
    Romney is definitely holding his money in the powder keg. I wonder what he is planning on spending that on down the line? Paul spent alot Q3 because part of our plan was to get ahead early, but it seems Perry and Romney really haven't spent much yet. Perry is done either way, but I am worried about Romney's 14 mil that he simply hasn't really touched.
    Romney spent more than Ron last quarter.

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    Well, Romney did spend 12mil this quarter, which is roughly what he started the quarter with. That's why his "cash at hand" is so close to his "money raised." So it seems like he is spending quarter-by-quarter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PauliticsPolitics View Post
    I believe RP transferred some of his Congressional Campaign fund, but not all yet. I'd have to look into it, but I think he had something like 2mil in there. I think he transferred 500K in Q2, and I know he transferred 500K in Q3. Maybe he is budgeting it, dumping 500K per quarter. Or maybe he will dump all the rest in on BTO, who knows.
    He only transferred $500 from other committees in Q2.
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    Quote Originally Posted by specsaregood View Post
    Romney spent more than Ron last quarter.
    You know what, you are probably right. I was looking at the Q3 numbers without realizing that they may have still had cash in hand from Q2, so I assumed that all of the 14 M Romney had in the Cash on Hand was from what he made this quarter.

    My mistake, lol. Math has never been my strong suit.



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    Quote Originally Posted by PauliticsPolitics View Post
    Yea, but that will likely be counted in Q4, assuming he transfers it in the next few months. Regardless, RP is a solid 3rd, even if the media keeps talking about the Cain Train (which in financial reality is 5th at best.)
    I think he may be saving it for donations to candidates he wants to win. If he doesn't win this election I'm betting he comes up with some sort of PAC. I can't see him dropping out of these issues, can you? And he can't use his Presidential campaign until he isn't running, of course., which will be too late to donate to people running in 2012, even if he doesn't get the nomination.
    Last edited by sailingaway; 10-15-2011 at 05:04 PM.
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    It looks to me Perry is abusing Texas taxpayers campaign travel on our dime....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gage View Post
    He only transferred $500 from other committees in Q2.
    Thanks, I corrected that post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sailingaway View Post
    I think he may be saving it for donations to candidates he wants to win. If he doesn't win this election I'm betting he comes up with some sort of PAC. I can't see him dropping out of these issues, can you? And he can't use his Presidential campaign until he isn't running, of course., which will be too late to donate to people running in 2012, even if he doesn't get the nomination.
    Great Point. I agree, he is probably keeping his options open in this regard.

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    I added "Money Spent in Q3" to the Original Post, just for fun and to quell some confusion about who spent the most.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chris41336 View Post
    You know what, you are probably right. I was looking at the Q3 numbers without realizing that they may have still had cash in hand from Q2, so I assumed that all of the 14 M Romney had in the Cash on Hand was from what he made this quarter.

    My mistake, lol. Math has never been my strong suit.
    Yea, I added a "Money Spent" section to the Original Post. If anything, Perry is the one who has skated along while spending (comparatively) very little.

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    If this is true, why is New York Times' tweet headline: "Romney, Perry, Cain open wide financial lead."

    http://twitter.com/#!/JTalarico328/s...53841196298240


    ^ Help spread the truth and RT!

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    Quote Originally Posted by JTforRP View Post
    If this is true, why is New York Times' tweet headline: "Romney, Perry, Cain open wide financial lead."

    http://twitter.com/#!/JTalarico328/s...53841196298240


    ^ Help spread the truth and RT!
    Yep, Cain is 5th at best. Paul is clearly ahead of Cain; even Bachmann is ahead of Cain. There is no "wide financial lead" for Cain. Just lies, per usual. I mean, I guess maybe Cain has a "wide financial lead" over Frothy and the Newt.
    Last edited by PauliticsPolitics; 10-15-2011 at 05:35 PM.



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    Quote Originally Posted by erowe1 View Post
    These numbers highlight how much we need to raise a huge amount in this next money bomb. He may be a solid third place, but that's a very glass-is-half-full way of looking at these numbers.

    Romney has more on hand than he received for the quarter, meaning he took in money last quarter faster than he could spend it and he's just stashing that all away for his blitzkrieg from December on.
    Yep, in the end, 3rd place is no place. Romney is getting and spending boatloads of cash. I wasn't trying to paint a rosy picture with the data; I just wanted to assemble it all for factual discussion.
    Last edited by PauliticsPolitics; 10-15-2011 at 05:47 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution View Post
    Huntsman , seriously what is the point ?
    An appointment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chris41336 View Post
    Romney is definitely holding his money in the powder keg. I wonder what he is planning on spending that on down the line?
    Probably holding on for the General since the GOP isn't doing so well with their funds.

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    This shows that Ron Paul has a good fight ahead of him, but that he is a top tier candidate!

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    Bachmann recently posted her second presidential campaign fund at the FEC site (yea, she has two). I believe it's a converted congressional fund and it only has a couple hundred thousand in and out; but I figured I should update my chart because I am a stickler for accuracy.
    Last edited by PauliticsPolitics; 10-15-2011 at 07:25 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sailingaway View Post
    +rep!

    Plus Paul has another million in his Congressional account if he needs it.
    Why is there anything left in his Congressional account at all at this point?

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