Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez: 'I Have a Lot of Common Ground With Many Libertarian Viewpoints'

Printable View

Show 30 post(s) from this thread on one page

08-12-2019, 10:54 PM
Swordsmyth

Quote:

Originally Posted by Origanalist

"You imagine" a lot of stuff. Far too much.

Show me an example of them tarring and feathering a local sheriff and we can talk.
With few exceptions they all were members of and/or supported their colonial governments.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Origanalist

And once they had the ring they weren't any better than the redcoats.

That's debatable and I wouldn't take your side, they were definitely not perfect and I am quite familiar with the classic examples but the present state of the UK vs. America is telling.
08-12-2019, 11:01 PM
Origanalist

Quote:

Originally Posted by Swordsmyth

Show me an example of them tarring and feathering a local sheriff and we can talk.
With few exceptions they all were members of and/or supported their colonial governments.

.

They killed them, what are you talking about? There was a war. Yes, I'm aware many were prominent subjects of the crown.
08-12-2019, 11:07 PM
Swordsmyth

Quote:

Originally Posted by Origanalist

They killed them, what are you talking about? There was a war. Yes, I'm aware many were prominent subjects of the crown.

What are YOU talking about? I'm talking about local law enforcement NOT the Redcoats, the colonial governments were part and parcel of the revolution and unless some of their local sheriffs or whatever they called them were Tories they didn't go around killing them.
08-12-2019, 11:10 PM
enhanced_deficit

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty

I must have missed this from AOC. I didn’t recall her being outspoken against interventionism. Did she vote against the bloated budget that included massive military spending?

She did make this controversial call. However GOP-Adelson/MAGA wing's top leadership did not ask her to resign for 'anti-semitism' as it did after Ilhan accused AIPAC lobby of bribing US politicians/spoke against Iran war drums.

AOC Says Cut US Aid to Israel
08-12-2019, 11:14 PM
Origanalist

Quote:

Originally Posted by Swordsmyth

What are YOU talking about? I'm talking about local law enforcement NOT the Redcoats, the colonial governments were part and parcel of the revolution and unless some of their local sheriffs or whatever they called them were Tories they didn't go around killing them.

So, local law enforcement prior to the declaration were not under the edict of the king? Sides were chosen, the revolutionaries went to war with the factions that supported the king. And yes, they killed each other.
08-12-2019, 11:18 PM
Swordsmyth

Quote:

Originally Posted by Origanalist

So, local law enforcement prior to the declaration were not under the edict of the king?

So were the colonial governments that many of the founding fathers were members of, they even petitioned the king to overrule Parliament before they rebelled.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Origanalist

Sides were chosen, the revolutionaries went to war with the factions that supported the king. And yes, they killed each other.

But most local law enforcement probably sided with their colonial governments and supported the rebellion, there was no war on law enforcement, only on Tories and Redcoats, some law enforcement may have been Tories but if they were killed it was for being Tories not for being law enforcement.
08-12-2019, 11:23 PM
Origanalist

Quote:

Originally Posted by Swordsmyth

But most local law enforcement probably sided with their colonial governments and supported the rebellion, there was no war on law enforcement, only on Tories and Redcoats, some law enforcement may have been Tories but if they were killed it was for being Tories not for being law enforcement.

"probably"

(snort)

No, at that point law enforcement was the redcoats and those that sided with them. Why would you think that people who made their living enforcing laws would side with rebellion?
08-12-2019, 11:35 PM
Swordsmyth

Quote:

Originally Posted by Origanalist

"probably"

(snort)

Show me ANY evidence of a war on law enforcement and we can talk.
YOU are just making things up to suit your anarchist fantasies.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Origanalist

No, at that point law enforcement was the redcoats and those that sided with them.

No, the British were the Redcoats and those that sided with them were Tories.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Origanalist

Why would you think that people who made their living enforcing laws would side with rebellion?

Because colonists in all walks of life sided with their local colonial governments against the British and because they had no less reason to than the officers and men of the colonial militias or the members of the colonial governments.
08-12-2019, 11:47 PM
Origanalist

Quote:

Originally Posted by Swordsmyth

Show me ANY evidence of a war on law enforcement and we can talk.
YOU are just making things up to suit your anarchist fantasies..

No, I'm not. You're just being your usual dipshit self. The redcoats were the the law enforcers of colonial America. The fact that you refuse to accept that doesn't make it not a fact.
08-12-2019, 11:52 PM
Swordsmyth

Quote:

Originally Posted by Origanalist

No, I'm not. You're just being your usual dip$#@! self. The redcoats were the the law enforcers of colonial America. The fact that you refuse to accept that doesn't make it not a fact.

They were MILITARY, there were other local law enforcement, nightwatchmen, bailiffs, constables, sheriffs, and whatever else they called them back then in the different colonies.
The colonies also had their own militias which could be used for law enforcement just like the Redcoats but the founders didn't declare war on them either, they were part of the Revolutionary forces.
08-13-2019, 06:20 AM
Danke

Quote:

Originally Posted by Origanalist

No, I'm not. You're just being your usual dipshit self.

I like it. Every time someone is losing an argument with Swordsmyth, they revert to name calling.
08-13-2019, 06:47 AM
tod evans

Quote:

Originally Posted by Swordsmyth

There are indeed many problems with current law enforcement practices but the LP is full of anarchists and contrarians who hate the very idea of police or sheriffs etc. because their religion is rebellion.

Not wanting some double-digiter lording over you and yours with complete immunity falls far short of "because their religion is rebellion."

Try again.
08-13-2019, 07:01 AM
Origanalist

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danke

I like it. Every time someone is losing an argument with Swordsmyth, they revert to name calling.

Oh, isn't that cute. Another rpf bromance.
08-13-2019, 07:16 AM
Danke

Quote:

Originally Posted by Origanalist

Oh, isn't that cute. Another rpf bromance.

And of course, insults.
08-13-2019, 07:19 AM
Origanalist

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danke

And of course, insults.

https://tolucantimes.info/wp-content...25-Letters.jpg

You two make a good pair.
08-13-2019, 07:51 AM
invisible

This simply underscores that our votes ARE important and numerous enough to tip elections, as was demonstrated in the 2012 general election polling that showed "undecided" voters as overwhelmingly supporting Ron Paul. Which is why both this admitted socialist is attempting to court them, and why a shyll army has been sent to flood this place with wall to wall trump propaganda. Two sides of the same coin, big government authoritarian statists trying to convince us to vote for politicians that continue to do nothing but destroy more of our freedom.
08-13-2019, 08:15 AM
oyarde

Quote:

Originally Posted by tfurrh

You get all that from the party platform?

That comes from the plant that is now running the party .
08-13-2019, 08:17 AM
oyarde

Quote:

Originally Posted by juleswin

Libertarians who support free movement of people also support ending the welfare state and birthright citizenship. I wonder if she would still be OK with that package?

Ya , I do not think you will ever get a single , nationally elected Dem to sign on with ending welfare .
08-13-2019, 08:20 AM
PAF

Quote:

Originally Posted by juleswin

Libertarians who support free movement of people also support ending the welfare state and birthright citizenship.

:up:
08-13-2019, 08:21 AM
oyarde

Quote:

Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0

She's a bolshevik and...

...will therefore likely do well with the American electorate.

Certainly has not seemed to hurt her in ny.
08-13-2019, 08:22 AM
nikcers

Quote:

Originally Posted by oyarde

Ya , I do not think you will ever get a single , nationally elected Dem to sign on with ending welfare .

:up:

Show 30 post(s) from this thread on one page