Ron Paulers/Paulites nothing but gloom and doomers!

Some of you really need to get a life. All you do is sit on these boards and hope for the worst. Do you hate America? You continually criticize our financial system which is saving the American economy right now. Everything is starting to get back to normal. Bush with his economic stimulus package has helped avert a disaster and recession. Banks are raising more capital than ever, the market is fine and keeps going up, home foreclosures aren't really that bad and the worst is pretty much over. What's the big deal?

NOTE* major sarcasm in this post* please post your responses to someone who would argue this point.

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Originally Posted by LiveFree79

Some of you really need to get a life. All you do is sit on these boards and hope for the worst. Do you hate America? You continually criticize our financial system which is saving the American economy right now. Everything is starting to get back to normal. Bush with his economic stimulus package has helped avert a disaster and recession. Banks are raising more capital than ever, the market is fine and keeps going up, home foreclosures aren't really that bad and the worst is pretty much over. What's the big deal?

NOTE* major sarcasm in this post* please post your responses to someone who would argue this point.

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Do you hate America? Then why do you choose to ignore everything she stands for?

Do you understand why Lady Liberty is blindfolded? Let's start there, because I don't think most that consider themselves conservative truly understand it.

For freedom to truly exist, all people must be equal in the eyes of the law - hence the blindfold. So how can all men be equal when we ask questions like "how much do you make?". "how many kids to you have?". "Do you rent or own?"

In order for Bush's stimulus package to work, we remove the blindfold. American's are treated differently based on the questions above - why do you hate America?

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Originally Posted by yongrel

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This is a legit thread, can we please keep your nonsense out.

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Originally Posted by ARealConservative

Do you hate America? Then why do you choose to ignore everything she stands for?

Do you understand why Lady Liberty is blindfolded? Let's start there, because I don't think most that consider themselves conservative truly understand it.

For freedom to truly exist, all people must be equal in the eyes of the law - hence the blindfold. So how can all men be equal when we ask questions like "how much do you make?". "how many kids to you have?". "Do you rent or own?"

In order for Bush's stimulus package to work, we remove the blindfold. American's are treated differently based on the questions above - why do you hate America?

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Although I like your response I never knew the Statue of Liberty is blindfolded? Are you sure about that?

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Originally Posted by LiveFree79

Although I like your response I never knew the Statue of Liberty is blindfolded? Are you sure about that?

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Uh, I think that's the statue of Lady Justice that's blindfolded.

http://www.statue.com/mmstatue/Images/TZMTSRB25120.JPG

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Originally Posted by yongrel

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http://www.seekingsources.com/Images...d_potato_2.jpg

I prefer Mash :D

The funny thing is, I work with the public and wear my RP shirts often. I have been told the very same things, almost verbatim. A guy was gonna spit on me because "we" were causing trouble and was helping to drag the economy down, it was an ugly scene in a public retail atmosphere and the crowd sure got an ear full. So, this post is to a degree spot on....sarcasm appreciated.

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Originally Posted by LiveFree79

Although I like your response I never knew the Statue of Liberty is blindfolded? Are you sure about that?

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The Concept of Lady Liberty - which the statue is based on - is what I refer to.

the French (and their non conservative revolution) never understood the true concept of freedom.

my blood started to boil until I read the last line :)

It's not that we want the SHTF - it's that we see the writing on the wall and want to warn others. Going with the status quo, which would mean ignoring the crisis that is looming, will only hurt others in the long run.

Ask people this.. If you had $30,000 in credit card bills, if you could barely make your interest payments, if you were charging more than you were earning... would you accept reality and say that you were in dire financial straits and change your spending habits radically? Or would you just get another credit card and continue doing what you're doing? That's where we are as a nation and we're the people saying we need to change our spending habits drastically.

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Originally Posted by LiveFree79

Some of you really need to get a life. All you do is sit on these boards and hope for the worst. Do you hate America? You continually criticize our financial system which is saving the American economy right now. Everything is starting to get back to normal. Bush with his economic stimulus package has helped avert a disaster and recession. Banks are raising more capital than ever, the market is fine and keeps going up, home foreclosures aren't really that bad and the worst is pretty much over. What's the big deal?

NOTE* major sarcasm in this post* please post your responses to someone who would argue this point.

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The Ten trillion dollar deficit to start. Do you suggest we inflate our way out of the situation to make the debt easier to service?

True but our government will just bail us out. Hell China a threat? We will just bully our way out of our debt. We have the strongest military in the world. Anyone who messes with our way of living will suffer the wrath of our bombers and Navy. We don't have to worry about paying China back. We can default on our loans no big deal. What's China going to do? They need us more than we need them right?

I'm playing devil's advocate here.

And I never knew about the Lady Justice/Liberty thing. Thanks for that knowledge.

One thing that does frustrate me is that the stock market is undetered right now and is fine. Is the stock market even representative of the health of an economy anymore?

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Originally Posted by LiveFree79

Some of you really need to get a life. All you do is sit on these boards and hope for the worst. Do you hate America? You continually criticize our financial system which is saving the American economy right now. Everything is starting to get back to normal. Bush with his economic stimulus package has helped avert a disaster and recession. Banks are raising more capital than ever, the market is fine and keeps going up, home foreclosures aren't really that bad and the worst is pretty much over. What's the big deal?

NOTE* major sarcasm in this post* please post your responses to someone who would argue this point.

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Doesn't your throat get sandy, singing that pollyanna song with your head in the sand? You may get your rocks off on what Uncle Sam is doing to you, but some of us consider it rape. Are you familiar with the term "Stockholm Syndrome?"

Gloom and Doom?

I get excited and happy when I see this country go furthur down the toilet.
I smile big for those people who called me crazy for telling them what is to come.

"How do those apples taste, miss?"

I wave happily at my neighbors as they are packing up from their foreclosed houses.

Why? Because i canvassed this area for Ron, and 99% of them basically say the man is a fool, and i'm a kook for believing his nonesense.

So- no doom and gloom here.
I have a celebration almost daily as the ignorant masses finally get what they've been asking for all this time.

And come November they will place the last nail into their own coffin.
And I will be dancing at their funeral.

So I don't see where all the doom and gloom is coming from... we should be happy. THis is the will of the people.

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Originally Posted by torchbearer

Gloom and Doom?

I get excited and happy when I see this country go furthur down the toilet.
I smile big for those people who called me crazy for telling them what is to come.

"How do those apples taste, miss?"

I wave happily at my neighbors as they are packing up from their foreclosed houses.

Why? Because i canvassed this area for Ron, and 99% of them basically say the man is a fool, and i'm a kook for believing his nonesense.

So- no doom and gloom here.
I have a celebration almost daily as the ignorant masses finally get what they've been asking for all this time.

And come November they will place the last nail into their own coffin.
And I will be dancing at their funeral.

So I don't see where all the doom and gloom is coming from... we should be happy. THis is the will of the people.

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A-fucking-MEN, brother.

We are the little boy in the crowd screaming, "The emperor is not wearing any clothes!"

the bush tax refund bs is going back to the banks or to big oil. it has little to do with helping the little person.

The tax refund is actually a tax if you know anything about the way the Fed works!

Our only chance of turning this wagon off the road to dictatorship is a complete and lingering economic collapse. A collapse so complete that our economy will be decentralized down to small communities. A collapse so deep that the government will HAVE to withdraw troops from around the world and dismantle the welfare state because there will not be any money to pay for them. A collapse so severe that states might secede without fear of being drug back in. New republics might rise up from the ashes.

I think the Federal Government has slit its own throat but doesn't know it yet. Just watch out that you don't get crushed when it falls.

Start thinking about how to survive in a local economy. What can you provide for yourself? What can you trade with your neighbors? How can you cooperate with people in your immediate environment so everyone benefits?

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Originally Posted by Acala

Our only chance of turning this wagon off the road to dictatorship is a complete and lingering economic collapse. A collapse so complete that our economy will be decentralized down to small communities. A collapse so deep that the government will HAVE to withdraw troops from around the world and dismantle the welfare state because there will not be any money to pay for them. A collapse so severe that states might secede without fear of being drug back in. New republics might rise up from the ashes.

I think the Federal Government has slit its own throat but doesn't know it yet. Just watch out that you don't get crushed when it falls.

Start thinking about how to survive in a local economy. What can you provide for yourself? What can you trade with your neighbors? How can you cooperate with people in your immediate environment so everyone benefits?

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As much as I hate it, I'm almost to that point myself. I think you're correct that we're just waiting for the body to fall. What we have is a bunch of midgets running around the legs, pushing this way and that, trying to keep things balanced, when what's really needed is a doctor to cure the patient.

Since I don't see a doctor in the White House, I'm focusing on local economic issues myself.

I was getting a little pissed and it was building one sentence at a time. Then I read your last sentence....and I was still pissed...not at what you said but at you making me pissed lol

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Originally Posted by torchbearer

Gloom and Doom?

I get excited and happy when I see this country go furthur down the toilet.
I smile big for those people who called me crazy for telling them what is to come.

"How do those apples taste, miss?"

I wave happily at my neighbors as they are packing up from their foreclosed houses.

Why? Because i canvassed this area for Ron, and 99% of them basically say the man is a fool, and i'm a kook for believing his nonesense.

So- no doom and gloom here.
I have a celebration almost daily as the ignorant masses finally get what they've been asking for all this time.

And come November they will place the last nail into their own coffin.
And I will be dancing at their funeral.

So I don't see where all the doom and gloom is coming from... we should be happy. THis is the will of the people.

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nailed it!

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Originally Posted by torchbearer

Gloom and Doom?

I get excited and happy when I see this country go furthur down the toilet.
I smile big for those people who called me crazy for telling them what is to come.

"How do those apples taste, miss?"

I wave happily at my neighbors as they are packing up from their foreclosed houses.

Why? Because i canvassed this area for Ron, and 99% of them basically say the man is a fool, and i'm a kook for believing his nonesense.

So- no doom and gloom here.
I have a celebration almost daily as the ignorant masses finally get what they've been asking for all this time.

And come November they will place the last nail into their own coffin.
And I will be dancing at their funeral.

So I don't see where all the doom and gloom is coming from... we should be happy. THis is the will of the people.

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Well said. The will of the people...so true. That would make a great satirical book about the downfall of the USA.

Ha ha.

We aren't doom and gloomers.

We hold investments that do well in doom and gloom times, we are optimistic.

We really need a collapse in order to wake up the mindless serfs, with our foreign investments and commodities we will be wealthy therefore we can compete with oligarchy to give the masses the correct answer instead of the oligarchy's incorrect answer.

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Originally Posted by torchbearer

Gloom and Doom?

I get excited and happy when I see this country go furthur down the toilet.
I smile big for those people who called me crazy for telling them what is to come.

"How do those apples taste, miss?"

I wave happily at my neighbors as they are packing up from their foreclosed houses.

Why? Because i canvassed this area for Ron, and 99% of them basically say the man is a fool, and i'm a kook for believing his nonesense.

So- no doom and gloom here.
I have a celebration almost daily as the ignorant masses finally get what they've been asking for all this time.

And come November they will place the last nail into their own coffin.
And I will be dancing at their funeral.

So I don't see where all the doom and gloom is coming from... we should be happy. THis is the will of the people.

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That is pretty much real life, withdrawal of "the sanction of the victim". :)

Atlas Shrugged.. is more non-fiction that anything else, unfortunately. :eek: