Rand Paul is right again. Revoke all clearances from former officials.
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Rand Paul is right again. Revoke all clearances from former officials.
Absolutely. If you aren't "on the clock" then you are off it. No one can "refresh your memory" with documents you never paid attention to in the first place. Does Congress control this or the executive branch.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty
Can you handle the truth?:cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by phill4paul
Placing total control in either one of these two options has serious drawbacks.Quote:
Originally Posted by phill4paul
Patriot Acts One&Tew created an infrastructure equal to the increase IKE had
over FDR and HST. Although less "buck privates" technically were in uniform
in the U.S Army. Clinton assumed with the fall of the Berlin Wall he could both
demobilize and demilitarize. Andy Johnson scaled down the U.S Army. In 1921
Warren G. Harding tried to live up to his promise to avoid global crusades, his
definition of "normalcy" had AntiWar and isolationist assumptions behind it all.
We need deep state to balance things out. :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by Aratus
Donald Trump's problem is that good foreign policy is bipartisan, and the "loyal opposition" must be
very polite about everything. Anything discursive or abrupt triggers a power struggle that is binary.
WIN WIN in John Nash's GameTheory becomes more difficult. John Luis Von Neumann is WIN LOOSE.
Seems Trump is winning and has Rand's support. What's your problem?:confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by Aratus
Was Bill McKinley a "deep state" player? Could you name past presidents who wereQuote:
Originally Posted by timosman
not "deep state" at all! I assume Andy Jackson is too frontier. Is Jefferson one of 'em?
If 80% of our sitting gov't is DEEP STATE but DJT is not, this gets him impeached or
worse, unless he pulls something out of the hat that is very horrid or brutal or cruel...
They are employees of the Executive Branch. The executive should be able to fire and revoke clearances at will. Some appointments require Senate approval per the Constitution, so POTUS is restrained on hiring.Quote:
Originally Posted by phill4paul
So far, he seems to be keeping his head above water.
He has been corrupt. This alone gets him impeached.
He has high odds of having broken his oath of office.
Edwin Stanton verses Andrew Johnson! YES! What A.J did was 100% legal and honorable.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty
Can you stop contradicting yourself?:confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by Aratus
Let me rephrase the question. Why Trump did not start removing clearances until after the meeting with Putin in person?:confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty
Dude... He is either PUTINz bYtch or he is basically acting like he is Putin's petQuote:
Originally Posted by timosman
French poodle of the male gender! Of course you are confused. In the early 1800s
if one gentleman insulted another deliberately, they whipped out dueling pistols
and took their seconds out to an open field. Brennan went out of his way to be
critical of Trump given that he clearly did not hold back or rethink a few of his
assumptions. Is Mr. Trump as churlishly contrary, quarrelsome and contrary as
Andrew Johnson I rhetorically ask? Perhaps not. However he has RADICALIZED
his opponents!!! Hence my bright title for a hypothetical internet digital book...
Putin's dirt on the deep state has radicalized them. Cool. :cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by Aratus
Bad foreign policy is bipartisan, good foreign policy is an orphan.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aratus
Our problems are so bad we must be abrupt before it is too late.
It is time for something very horrid or brutal or cruel to the deepstate.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aratus
Remove their security clearances? :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by Swordsmyth
Until recently he didn't think he could do either, now something has changed and he feels free to do both but the Putin meeting was more important.Quote:
Originally Posted by timosman
Or are they as bad as we think we are? What if our fate is to experience what the U.K was hit with
in the 1940s, 50s and 60s? Socialized medicine in its inefficiency arrives as we are stripped of many
of our colonies. We become a seedy backwater, not a global superpower. Our superpower status is
turning us all into beggars. All Trump will do by an abrupt move is become like JUAN PERON, a small
time "tin horn" bleeting away to his own chosen flock of sheep. Not good. Not good. Not good at all.
It's a start, it should end with executions and imprisonments, he could jump straight to that but it is better politically to draw it out slowly, it is also more painful for the deep state.Quote:
Originally Posted by timosman
Of course. Trump plays chess. This doesn't change the fact Putin must have passed some documents which showed the corruption of the deep state. Trump looked pretty depressed after learning about this crap during the conference with Putin. The leaks, firings and clearance removals followed almost immediately. They have been neutralized.Quote:
Originally Posted by Swordsmyth
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Originally Posted by Swordsmyth
It's the line in the sand. Him and Mitch and Paul Ryan had to tagteam
the Democrats to get bills thru, but Mitch has gone thru all his poker
player political chits. Trump wants a confrontation. The Democrats toy
with impeaching him. TENURE OF OFFICE ACT, yes. Trump likes to fire
people. He shakes things up. He may be ADHD. Or not. What he is close
to triggering is a crisis of confidence like the one that hit A.J after 1866.
They are much worse than we think we are.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aratus
This is what will happen if something abrupt doesn't happen.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aratus
This won't happen.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aratus
You should identify your rank.:cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by Aratus
A.J. was attacked by his own party, Trump is being attacked by the opposition, the Blue Ebb Tide will leave them high and dry.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aratus
Then let's do it. I would. What would Ron Paul have done to a deep-state alphabet agency that opposed him? He would have done as much as his position allowed him to do. Hire, fire, transfer.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty
It would be good if Putin gave him ammunition but he should have plenty of his own already.Quote:
Originally Posted by timosman
Anything he've had came from the swamp. Talking to Putin was like getting a second opinion and pointers to what he should be requesting from the swamp.Quote:
Originally Posted by Swordsmyth
After May of 1865, the UNIONIST PARTY ceases to be. Andrew Johnson was a Jacksonian DemocratQuote:
Originally Posted by Swordsmyth
who never joined the Confederacy. He allied himself with the GOP but was not a member of the same.
He ran unsuccessfully as Democrat in 1868. He did not change his political affiliation for any great length of time. Mitch McConnell has actually converted over from Democrat to Republican, he is more
GOP now than A.J ever was at all! Technically.