Here is Rothbard on the whole mess... The state of Israel isn't the innocent victim here...not by a long shot.
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Here is Rothbard on the whole mess... The state of Israel isn't the innocent victim here...not by a long shot.
He goes on record as saying any number of moral issues are this or that, and makes no move to legislate them. I think if you asked him directly, he'd be hard pressed to deny that the death of a baby via rocket fire is a bad thing. Or would he say he can't make that determination because he doesn't get involved in foreign affairs?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1t4O...layer_embeddedQuote:
If I personally favor one side or the other side then it’s really pretty academic because politically I don’t want to be involved. If I wanna say well, you know, I really think the Palestinians have been ripped off and therefore all the blame is on Israel, then I’ve sorta stepped in a little bit more than I want to. I can have a personal opinion but politically my position is that America would be much better off if we just minded our own business
If we as the people of a different country can without a shadow of a doubt determine who is unequivically right and who is wrong in a foreign conflict then, since we are talking morals, we as a nation should be morally obligated to came to the aid of the unequivically right country. I don't believe we can. On an individual scale it would be like if I saw a little girl get grabbed and raped I would feel morally oblicated to kick the sh*t out of the rapist. Yes I am intervening and i would not feel wrong doing it.
The Palestinians never waged any war. They were kept defenseless by the British and British led Zionist forces in "Special Night Squads". The 750,000 Palestinians had already been driven from their homes before the "Arab armies" got involved.
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Son of a Famed Israeli General Speaks Out
Posted by Lew Rockwell on October 12, 2012 09:56 AM
Writes Bob Wenzel:
Miko Peled, author of The General’s Son, whose father was the renowned Israeli general Matti Peled, spoke earlier this month in Seattle. The video is over an hour long, but it is a MUST view. Find the time to view it. It is history from a perspective you have never heard before.
Oh but they are the chosen people, haven't you heard? They get to murder all the women and children they like. Their "god" seems to get off on it, haven't you read the old Testament?
Your video hadn't posted when I answered. Unfortunately I can't waste bandwidth watching. I am on a bandwidth noose. If the quote of RP's is the point of the video then I believe he agrees with what I am saying. He wouldn't say which side he was supporting personally.
We are a worldwide political forum susposedly representing the belief of RP's noninterventionist foreign policy yet many are avidly taking sides in a foreign conflict and I think it is counter productive. That is just my opinion, hopefully some will see it my way and deal only with our countries involvement. With that I am out of this thread. I said my piece
He uses the phrase "concentration camp" to refer to conditions in Gaza... I think that's a pretty strong personal opinion.
No one here supports actually legislating taking a side, or sending troops, or sending money, that I have seen.
This is along the lines of Ron's personal views on abortion, drugs, or marriage... and the way he puts all of that aside in order to do the Constitutional thing.
If the average person came on these forums and read all of these anti Israel comments they would be turned off immediately and wouldn't give the liberty movement a 2nd thought. It's this kind of stuff that will hurt Rand if he decides to run for President in 2016.
That's because the average person can't comprehend the idea that there are events which took place outside of their short lifespan. If it happened before their birth, most people don't care about it or can't be swayed to even learn about it.
You are correct, unfortunately. At the same time, I think part of being a good liberty supporter is educating yourself. If a person was that closed minded to begin with they were probably never going to come onboard anyway.
In case you're interested, this guy is broadcasting a live audio feed from Gaza. I've had it on for the last hour or so and it is spooky. The sound of Israeli drones flying overhead never stops and you hear the occasional blast.
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/operation-pillar-of-cloud
This is a forum to share opinions were not the 2016 liberty HQ. If they run off because people personally don't like Israel what happens if they see pot smokers here, or gays, or EGAD they see me a muslim! This forum is just a melting pot of people who traditionally can't stand eachother united under the banner of LEAVE US ALONE FEDS! And I just think that is wonderful.
In your defense, I have yet to see you wielding a sword and ak-47 and promising to kill the mushrikeen on the forum.
and presumably, most gays on this forum agree with getting the govt out of the marriage business, so they wouldn't be the "enemy" to a RINO who came here looking for info on Dr. Rand Paul.
so, what would happen if Egypt, Gaza, Jordan, Syria, lebanon, The West Bank, and for shits and giggles Iran. All decided to simultaneously attack Israel?
Most of the critical posts of Israels aggression and occupation in this thread will soon become a hate crime...So keep that in mind. One however, can call the Palestinians a savage sub human race of terrorist murders and get a medal.