Donald Trump caves on gun control. Supports "bump fire ban"

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10-05-2017, 03:57 PM
jmdrake

Donald Trump caves on gun control. Supports "bump fire ban"

https://www.mail.com/news/politics/5...-stage-hero1-1

I told ya so. Actually Donald Trump told ya so but most of y'all didn't listen. In his book "The America We Deserve" he wrote:

"I generally oppose gun control, but I support the ban on assault weapons and I support a slightly longer waiting period to purchase a gun."

Now, let's see. I bet some Trumskiites will say "But a bump fire ban isn't the same as an assault weapons ban." And I would say.....you're right. But what do you think will happen when the next mass shooter uses the "rubber band bump fire" trick?

See: http://www.mynameisfoxtrot.com/journ...022-stock.html

And: https://healthfully.com/bump-fire-ru...-10069508.html

It's not that complicated. Hell, I think I could do it and I know nothing about guns. So banning professionally made "bump fire" stocks won't prevent someone from converting any semi auto to essentially fully auto. Oh but they can ban high capacity magazines right? Wrong. You can 3D print those at home.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YX1Xa1sT8Y

So what's next for gun control after this cave goes through? (And it will). Well...banning guns which can accept high capacity magazines.

Oh yeah. And expect approval of SWAT teams using weaponized drones in the near future. I heard an "expert" on CNN say "It would have been nice if the police had drones that they could have used to spot the shooter." But what's better than a drone that can spot a shooter? Why a drone that can kill the shooter of course. Now a hellfire missile would have too much collateral damage of course. So.....a drone mounted sniper rifle or grenade launcher for urban use is in the cards.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_cOScwwZwg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKFJ2rrKFso

Yes. It's good to know that this tragedy will not be allowed to go to waste.
10-05-2017, 04:03 PM
phill4paul

Of course he does. The POTUS, Senate and House have been unable to pass anything that increases individual freedom, but I bet this sails through.
10-05-2017, 04:13 PM
jllundqu

I think this is actually smart. Bump Fire Stocks are stupid. Passing this would get us past this.
10-05-2017, 04:30 PM
William Tell

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Originally Posted by jllundqu

I think this is actually smart. Bump Fire Stocks are stupid. Passing this would get us past this.

No, it will set a precedent. Do you think Moms Demand will send Trump and the NRA thank you letters after they get this? This will be the first major piece of federal gun control legislation in decades. Now after every future tragedy they will give an inch until they've gone the full mile. If we don't stop this we won't be able to stop the next steps after it.
10-05-2017, 04:39 PM
phill4paul

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Originally Posted by William Tell

No, it will set a precedent. Do you think Moms Demand will send Trump and the NRA thank you letters after they get this? This will be the first major piece of federal gun control legislation in decades. Now after every future tragedy they will give an inch until they've gone the full mile. If we don't stop this we won't be able to stop the next steps after it.

Your absolutely right about this. However, I believe the two of us will be on the losing end. This bumper ban is going to pass.
10-05-2017, 04:43 PM
William Tell

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Originally Posted by phill4paul

Your absolutely right about this. However, I believe the two of us will be on the losing end. This bumper ban is going to pass.

Not if we call our congressmen and make them stall it long enough to put their fingers in the air and do some polling. In 2 weeks this will be old news and the political pressure will be lowered like every other tragedy before. Hell no we can't give up yet. Lets get 1000 constituents per congress critter to call.
10-07-2017, 10:07 AM
kcchiefs6465

Someone needs to ask Cody Wilson to design a 3D printed bump fire stock.
10-07-2017, 10:11 AM
kcchiefs6465

Quote:

Originally Posted by jllundqu

I think this is actually smart. Bump Fire Stocks are stupid. Passing this would get us past this.

What would be your position on 100 round drums? Or green tips? Or tannerite? Or semi-automatics in general as you can bump fire most semi automatic rifles?

How long would you want to cage someone for bump firing a rifle?

In that same spirit, when you are caged for violating any of the other of dozens of firearms regulations/laws on the book now or soon to come, why should anyone give a shit?
10-07-2017, 11:07 PM
Matt Collins

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Originally Posted by jllundqu

I think this is actually smart. Bump Fire Stocks are stupid. Passing this would get us past this.

You don't have a clue what you're talking about. :rolleyes: I'll explain in another thread.
10-13-2017, 03:57 PM
Pericles

Quote:

Originally Posted by jllundqu

I think this is actually smart. Bump Fire Stocks are stupid. Passing this would get us past this.

I don't care how stupid slide fire stocks or any other gadget are. Anyone voting for gun control has signed his own death warrant.
10-13-2017, 04:11 PM
dannno

Oh boy, a conversation..

Well we can either freak out, run around like chickens with our heads cut off and run off a cliff over the initial media reports, or we can breath, relax and see what actually happens.
10-16-2017, 10:24 PM
pcosmar

Quote:

Originally Posted by jllundqu

I think this is actually smart. Bump Fire Stocks are stupid. Passing this would get us past this.

Yes they are stupid. And no,, banning them will not get us past it.

And you are focused in the wrong direction.

and for a simple point of reference.

M16 M4 Complete Full Auto Lower Parts Kit AR15
http://www.gunbroker.com/item/709284806

only one quick listing,, but commonly available.. to anyone..

Install that in an 80% lower,, and pick up a Mag light too.

Bump stocks are truly stupid. And Full Auto is wasteful, most of the time.