This is absolutely fascinating:
https://www.axios.com/how-rand-paul-...494530292.html
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This is absolutely fascinating:
https://www.axios.com/how-rand-paul-...494530292.html
I have always thought the President was open to libertarian thinking. He went to Washington to shake things up, and Rand is about as anti-establishment as anyone who will talk to Trump. This is the lesson. In order to promote liberty thinking and expand the base, we have to build relationships with people who have a bigger audience. Trump has strong support from his voters, and I think they will be amenable to liberty thinking if we can get the ideas out there. This is how education takes place.
Yeah, I'm hoping that Rand is doing liberty "mission work" in visiting with Trump. Kinda like Jesus telling us to visit the prisoners and such...
Will trump be "converted"? I sure hope so but I'm not holding my breath.
If you look at what is coming out of the administration in the form of actual work, it strongly reflects the religious thinking of the people in his inner circle, and there are liberty ideas in that mix. Trump is a deal maker. He will talk to anyine who comes to the table. Bless Rand for hanging in there and keeping the conversation going.
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Originally Posted by euphemia
....Trump is kind of, you know, the president....
....and Rand is, kind of, you know, not.
Trump got to be president by doing the exact opposite of what you said. He didn't build any relationships. He made enemies.
Lots and lots and lots of enemies.
He made enemies of people that aren't well liked.
And everyone who hates his enemies voted for him, and every single one of those voters either didn't know that Trump is a charlatan, or they knew and didn't care because it was enough that he wasn't reaching out to or making relationships with any of his enemies.
He's delivering on precisely zero of his promises, and nobody cares. He is still setting himself up as an enemy and that's going to carry him through his entire first term.
I'm not going to be at all surprised if it takes him through a second term.
I do fervently hope that, three years from now, I'm not the only one who isn't surprised.
At times Trump can be full of hot air and bit too hungry for validation from others among many other flaws.. but he does some to have few almost unique traits too that are almost refreshing. Trump probably gets a lot of bad advice from yes men and he seems quite pliable, it will be good if Rand can try to educate him a bit on liberty ideas and goad him into doing a little good.
One of the key reasons I started being more supportive of Trump was because of something Rand said to me in person. That's all I'm saying.
Who is Axios, and why should we care (or trust) what they write??
What specific part of the article do you have any potential issue with?Quote:
Originally Posted by Created4
Nothing like a lot of negativity and denial to make it fun.Quote:
Originally Posted by fisharmor
No, he's revealing the real enemy. Republicans think Democrats are the enemy. What Trump has shown is that establishment Republicans are also the enemy. This is a gift.Quote:
Originally Posted by fisharmor
I would say that good SCOTUS and lower court appointments are going well. I think the religious exemption for the Obamacare birth control mandate is good. It's certainly more than all the so-called pro-life presidents and congress were able to do.
Trump is renewing ties with allies after Obama snubbed them.
He's rolling back regulations.
Some good things are happening if you care to open your eyes and see them.
From Rand:
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I voted for multiple Obamacare repeals in the Senate, but the fact is a handful of my colleagues who had voted for repeal when it didn’t matter in 2015, campaigned on it, raised money on it — well, they just flat out broke their words. Real reform is now stalled.. Or is it?
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While we should and will keep fighting for repeal through Congress, there is another route to fixing some of the biggest problems Obamacare has caused — and I’m hopeful that President Trump and I can make it happen, with your help.
I’m talking about the freedom to join large groups to get better prices. I’m talking about being able to buy insurance across state lines. I’m talking about the flexibility to buy the type of plan YOU want. I’m talking abut protection from preexisting conditions WITHOUT a government mandate.
They’re called Association Health Plans, and I’ve been working with months with President Trump and his cabinet to get this done through executive order and regulation changes.
It could happen any day and it will be a big deal.
But until its final I don’t want to take any chances — will you show the White House you Support our plan for better health care?
Support the Plan
It’s important that the White House and the public hear from you, today.
You see, the fake news media wants you to believe there is nothing that can be done. It’s not true, and hopefully we are about to prove them wrong.
I don’t believe in making new laws without Congress. But in this case the law already exists, a 1970s law that was badly mangled and restricted by previous administrations.
The President already has the authority to legalize these new groups and plans, all he has to do is act.
I believe he will — and I’ve been pushing and helping for months, lending expertise and ideas to the process.
When this is announced, it will be HUGE – Congress failed, but President Trump and I acted.
You will see the results:
- Millions of people who now go at it alone or in very small groups will join and make the CONSUMER THE KING, with increased bargaining power and better prices
- Cheaper insurance that works for you will be legal again
- You will be able to buy across state lines, opening up competition for the best plans.
- Many Obamacare regulations will be waived for those in these groups.
Help us out today — show your SUPPORT
And if you can, please help RANDPAC spread the word. I want the White House to hear from MILLIONS of people, and right away!
You can donate to RANDPAC right after you show your support.
Thank you,
Rand Paul MD
How about lying in the first sentence?Quote:
Originally Posted by dannno
Rand was quite active in attempting to repeal Obamacare, and worked extensively with Trump on it. Rand voted "yes" on the repeals that came to a vote. It was McCain (and Collins and Murkowski) who sided with the Democrats. This was the biggest, most high-profile objective so far to come to a vote. How many if those other items have come to a vote yet? I must have missed the vote on the new tax plan.Quote:
The Kentucky senator has opposed the president on just about everything; from the first GOP budget to tax reform to Syria strikes to Trump's Saudi Arabian arms deal to his Afghanistan policy to the debt ceiling and hurricane funding to multiple attempts to repeal and replace the Affordable Care Act.
Journalism fail.
They aren't wrong, they are just presenting the issue from the mainstream narrative to show why, in theory, they should be against each other, when in fact they are friends.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty
The fact is, Rand was against these proposals that Trump allegedly supported to repeal and replace parts of Obamacare, the issue, as Rand explained, was that they were replacing it with something that wasn't any better than what we had.
They might have worded it a little bit better with the repeal and replace wording to make it sound more watered down, but otherwise this is a fantastic article that should give people here a lot of hope that we will be able to affect more positives changes.
Did I say I had any problems with the content? I never heard of them, and I asked an honest question about who they are, and why we should trust them. We should ask that of any media outlet....Quote:
Originally Posted by dannno
Not surprising.
Or we can judge them by their content.. What was wrong with the content? It was a fantastic article.Quote:
Originally Posted by Created4
Are they selling news or do they monetize their website another way?Quote:
Originally Posted by dannno
Why shouldn't they monetize their work? You want them to do it for free?Quote:
Originally Posted by nikcers
Sometimes, my friend, you make way too much sense.Quote:
Originally Posted by dannno
Do tell.......Quote:
Originally Posted by dannno
That sounds a lot like something the OP used to say quite often.Quote:
Originally Posted by dannno
Nice article but a bunch of unnamed sources.Quote:
Originally Posted by dannno
Intriguing and exciting!Quote:
Originally Posted by dannno
I knowQuote:
Originally Posted by invisible
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AS WE PREDICTED: TRUMP TO SIGN RAND PAUL HEALTHCARE PLAN
Trump joins forces with Sen. Paul
https://www.infowars.com/as-we-predi...althcare-plan/Quote:
President Trump will allow Americans to buy healthcare across state lines, which is a plan spearheaded by Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.).
The president will likely sign an executive order this week that will allow health associations to cater to customers in different states.
“They’ll be able to buy, they’ll be able to cross state lines and they will get great competitive healthcare, and it will cost the United States nothing,” Trump told reporters at the White House. “With Congress the way it is, I decided to take it upon myself, so we’ll be announcing that soon as far as the signing’s concerned, but it’s largely worked out.”
As Infowars reported on Sept. 20, Sen. Paul was talking to President Trump about implementing this plan – and we said it would be announced in the coming weeks, which is now.
“If 15 million people could get together to buy their insurance, guess what, they would get a cheaper price, they would get protection against preexisting conditions, and I think they would get most of the things they want,” Paul stated.
Axios I believe was started by Ezra Klein who was a writer for some other garbage editorial, VOX.Quote:
Originally Posted by Created4
Per a recent report, Rand has been working with Trump for months on this bold initiative. Clearly, they have a strong relationship.
http://thehill.com/policy/healthcare...lth-care-order
Trump is extremely easy to get along with so long as you care more about principles than you do ego. Most politicians are the opposite, which is why they have such a lousy relationship with Trump. Rand doesn't mind listening to hours of talk about Golf or recaps of what is happening on "The Shows" so long as it advances his agenda. He doesn't mind giving Trump credit or kissing his ass in public if it gets Rand what he wants. Ronald Reagan had a paperweight on his desk that said, "It is amazing what you can accomplish so long as nobody cares who gets the credit". Rand probably has one that says, "It is amazing what you can accomplish so long as Donald Trump gets all the credit". Rand just gets it.
Rand needs to work his political mojo and make Trump do the right thing on foreign policy!Quote:
Originally Posted by RonPaulMall
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