Didn't Vote For Trump In 2016...Now Voting For Him In 2020

The case is made rather well by Ben Shapiro

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7Xj3tYFKks

I don't know and don't care if my reasons are the same as Ben's but I can say the same and so can MANY other people.

Same. As of yesterday. As well as others I know.

I wonder if lefties know that even though most people agree with them about their hot-button issues IN PUBLIC, they will go and vote for Trump IN THE PRIVACY of a ballot. Not that I predict a Trump victory. Like Doug Casey said, this election will come down to who cheats the best. And the democrats are probably ahead of the game.

Ice Cube is voting for Trump lol

This much I know, I won't be voting Democrat.

Same outcome here.

Trump is an embarrassment. I refuse to vote for him. I won't vote for Biden either. Don't even like Jorgensen.

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Originally Posted by Mordan

Ice Cube is voting for Trump lol

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Maybe. He hasn't said that he is. 50 Cent said he's voting for Trump.

Wrote in Ron Paul in 2016. As I did in 2012 and 2008.

https://i.imgur.com/GgOon2j.jpg

I will be voting Trump this time.

I'll be voting for Trump.

"wrong on character." fuck this dude. Shapiro is a weasle, he isnt the person that will get his hands dirty to stand up for freedom, he isnt the man who will bare arms to fight for freedoms. HE ISNT anything but a shit head with a motor mouth. hows that for character.

Vote Trump if you support Operation Warp Speed, retaining Fauci and Slauoi, awarding Bio-Tech Medical Industrial Complex Billions and Billions of tax-payer dollars, $1.3 Trillion Omnibus - the largest in global history, North American Union - NAFTA 2.0 on Steroids, and other Statist dream agendas.

This is why the slide avalanche into tyranny, because nobody stands on firm ground.

Lesser of evil is still evil, only there is no difference at all other than a fancy letter after a name. So sleep in the bed that you make.

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Originally Posted by PAF

Vote Trump if you support Operation Warp Speed, retaining Fauci and Slauoi, awarding Bio-Tech Medical Industrial Complex Billions and Billions of tax-payer dollars, $1.3 Trillion Omnibus - the largest in global history, North American Union - NAFTA 2.0 on Steroids, and other Statist dream agendas.

This is why the slide avalanche into tyranny, because nobody stands on firm ground.

Lesser of evil is still evil, only there is no difference at all other than a fancy letter after a name. So sleep in the bed that you make.

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I still don't understand why he wouldn't fire Dr. Fauci. I think the 2 parties are both evil but this time the dems seems to be a special sort of evil. I will be voting third party this time around. Jo is getting my vote

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Originally Posted by John-G

I still don't understand why he wouldn't fire Dr. Fauci. I think the 2 parties are both evil but this time the dems seems to be a special sort of evil. I will be voting third party this time around. Jo is getting my vote

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Trumps been sniping at Fauci in the press these days. Looks like hes ready to get rid of Fauci (and others like Wray) but its too close to the election.

Those who aren't voting for Trump, at least you now have something in common with John Bolton.

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...le-damage-quot

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Originally Posted by eleganz

Trumps been sniping at Fauci in the press these days. Looks like hes ready to get rid of Fauci (and others like Wray) but its too close to the election.

Those who aren't voting for Trump, at least you now have something in common with John Bolton.

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...le-damage-quot

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Snipping is not good enough, he needs to fire Fauci, he is an agent of the Gates and the Chinese. I do not want him anywhere near power.

No shame in being on the same side with Bolton on the need for a third party. I wasn't going to vote for Trump even while Bolton was appointed to advisory roles in his admin.

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Originally Posted by John-G

Snipping is not good enough, he needs to fire Fauci, he is an agent of the Gates and the Chinese. I do not want him anywhere near power.

No shame in being on the same side with Bolton on the need for a third party. I wasn't going to vote for Trump even while Bolton was appointed to advisory roles in his admin.

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Fauci is a joke but you don't fire anybody this close to the election. Talking a big game on a forum is not the same as taking the big seat.

This is why liBROtarians never get anywhere with their ideas.

Clear example is Rand (or Massie) vs. Amash.

Rand does things wisely and with a game plan. Amash blew his load all over the place and will soon no longer be in congress.

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Originally Posted by PAF

Vote Trump if you support Operation Warp Speed, retaining Fauci and Slauoi, awarding Bio-Tech Medical Industrial Complex Billions and Billions of tax-payer dollars, $1.3 Trillion Omnibus - the largest in global history, North American Union - NAFTA 2.0 on Steroids, and other Statist dream agendas.

This is why the slide avalanche into tyranny, because nobody stands on firm ground.

Lesser of evil is still evil, only there is no difference at all other than a fancy letter after a name. So sleep in the bed that you make.

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I will repeat what I just posted in another thread on this subject:

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Originally Posted by Anti Federalist

I'm prepared to vote Cthulhu at this point, if that gives just enough breathing room to organize and fight back against the murderous Marxist mobs, billionaire Bolsheviks and Jacobin jerk-offs who want to see, and are fully prepared, to put me and my family into a shallow mass grave.

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This is war, and war is an ugly dirty business, where you make allies with who you can, when you can, to achieve victory.

Or save your life, your children and your home.

I have no doubts about the immediate threat that is posed, and I will sleep just as soundly this election night as I did in 2016, knowing that I made the best possible choice based on the facts at hand.

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Originally Posted by eleganz

Fauci is a joke but you don't fire anybody this close to the election. Talking a big game on a forum is not the same as taking the big seat.

This is why liBROtarians never get anywhere with their ideas.

Clear example is Rand (or Massie) vs. Amash.

Rand does things wisely and with a game plan. Amash blew his load all over the place and will soon no longer be in congress.

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Blaming liberty folks, instead of the morons who want to oust Amash, et al, will always guarantee and yield more tyranny.

Your philosophy is equivalent to blaming God for idiots murdering innocents. People had better wake up and start standing on solid ground.

This is to you as well, @Anti Federalist ;-)

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Originally Posted by Anti Federalist

I will repeat what I just posted in another thread on this subject:



This is war, and war is an ugly dirty business, where you make allies with who you can, when you can, to achieve victory.

Or save your life, your children and your home.

I have no doubts about the immediate threat that is posed, and I will sleep just as soundly this election night as I did in 2016, knowing that I made the best possible choice based on the facts at hand.

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I do not make “deals” with enemies. I am an Agorist, so my conscience will be clear. If voting [giving your personal consent] makes you sleep better at night, that is on you.

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Originally Posted by PAF

Blaming liberty folks, instead of the morons who want to oust Amash, et al, will always guarantee and yield more tyranny.

Your philosophy is equivalent to blaming God for idiots murdering innocents. People had better wake up and start standing on solid ground.

This is to you as well, @Anti Federalist ;-)

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To be perfectly clear, yy philsophy is #STANDwithRAND. A pity yours isn't.


Fact: Justin chose to run third party and ended that campaign when it was no longer viable. He wasted the monetary and human capital put into getting him elected, on some emotions that he couldn't control. Nobody wants to oust Rand, he is as popular as ever. Massie easily won his primary with 81%.

Your failed non-logic doesn't work here.

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Originally Posted by PAF

I am an Agorist immeasurably difficult and only want my ideology to stay within the same small circle forever as expanding the tent only makes me less special

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Fixed.

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Originally Posted by eleganz

To be perfectly clear, yy philsophy is #STANDwithRAND. A pity yours isn't.


Fact: Justin chose to run third party and ended that campaign when it was no longer viable. He wasted the monetary and human capital put into getting him elected, on some emotions that he couldn't control. Nobody wants to oust Rand, he is as popular as ever. Massie easily won his primary with 81%.

Your failed non-logic doesn't work here.

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Your support for the corporate statist states logic does not work on me. Have fun voting for other people representing you. I’ll be fine under the radar, and will take pride not “voting” Fascism versus Communism.

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Originally Posted by PAF

Blaming liberty folks, instead of the morons who want to oust Amash, et al, will always guarantee and yield more tyranny.

Your philosophy is equivalent to blaming God for idiots murdering innocents. People had better wake up and start standing on solid ground.

This is to you as well, @Anti Federalist ;-)

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How so?

I am not blaming anybody for anything, calling out names, accusing people of being traitors or what have you.

I've stated my reasons for doing what I am doing, based on facts and a sense of urgency that comes with being under siege.

I hope others join me.

I don't think less of others who, in good faith, cannot take part in doing so, although I do tire of being preached at as if I was a heretical sinner.

I am very, very, very aware of the moral conundrum of taking part in what is clearly a rigged system or "choosing" a choice that leads to same ends, more government and more tyranny.

I am not voting "for" Trump, any more than most people are voting for the Can O' Spam® Biden.

I am taking a small, tiny blow at the forces that are arrayed against Trump and by extension, me. The Marxist meatheads, the Billionaire Bolsheviks, the Jacobin jerkoffs, the Three Bong Hit Earth Saviors, the Malignant Malthusians, the Electric Haired Harpies, the Globalist Googans, the Complaining Coloreds and all of their hangers-on, and fellow travelers and media organs and sycophants in government, and in churches, and in corporate AmeriKa. Trump has all the right enemies, in other words.

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Originally Posted by Anti Federalist

How so?

I am not blaming anybody for anything, calling out names, accusing people of being traitors or what have you.

I've stated my reasons for doing what I am doing, based on facts and a sense of urgency that comes with being under siege.

I hope others join me.

I don't think less of others who, in good faith, cannot take part in doing so, although I do tire of being preached at as if I was a heretical sinner.

I am very, very, very aware of the moral conundrum of taking part in what is clearly a rigged system or "choosing" a choice that leads to same ends, more government and more tyranny.

I am not voting "for" Trump, any more than most people are voting for the Can O' Spam® Biden.

I am taking a small, tiny blow at the forces that are arrayed against Trump and by extension, me. The Marxist meatheads, the Billionaire Bolsheviks, the Jacobin jerkoffs, the Three Bong Hit Earth Saviors, the Malignant Malthusians, the Electric Haired Harpies, the Globalist Googans, the Complaining Coloreds and all of their hangers-on, and fellow travelers and media organs and sycophants in government, and in churches, and in corporate AmeriKa. Trump has all the right enemies, in other words.

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Take a hard stand. If you vote, vote locally where it should matter, and refrain from voting lobbyists who don’t give a flip about R or D and control both sides.

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Originally Posted by PAF

I do not make “deals” with enemies. I am an Agorist, so my conscience will be clear. If voting [giving your personal consent] makes you sleep better at night, that is on you.

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I won't have a problem at all.

I'll be able to say that I put aside my personal concerns and I did all I could at that point (not sure what's coming later...every day the line in the sand gets closer).

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Originally Posted by PAF

Your support for the corporate statist states logic does not work on me. Have fun voting for other people representing you. I’ll be fine under the radar, and will take pride not “voting” Fascism versus Communism.

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You made a statement about Justin Amash getting ousted, and I rebutted exactly that. Now you want nothing to do with it after I responded, instead opting to change the topic to some retarded "under the radar" b.s. that you don't actually practice (you can lie to us but you can't lie to yourself).

Your failure to reason is showing up again. Not sure why anybody that comes at me ends up back pedaling just like you.

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Originally Posted by PAF

Take a hard stand. If you vote, vote locally where it should matter, and refrain from voting lobbyists who don’t give a flip about R or D and control both sides.

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Well, funny you should say that, as my efforts this go around have been focused on the NH gov, EC, senate and house races.

Hard to tell where things stand, as local races don't get polled, but we managed to get a confirmed leftist woman to drop out of the race, and hopefully she will be replaced by a very young and strong and "Ron Paulish" young man who is doing well.

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Originally Posted by eleganz

You made a statement about Justin Amash getting ousted, and I rebutted exactly that. Now you want nothing to do with it after I responded, instead opting to change the topic to some retarded "under the radar" b.s. that you don't actually believe and practice.

Your failure to reason is showing up again. Not sure why anybody that comes at me ends up back pedaling just like you.

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You are here to argue just as a past time. I am not interested in that. My goal is to try to convince people that they are free if they take the plunge, and to “Starve the State” which is the only way to End the Fed. Your way only perpetuates it, and again, I am not interested in that.

Sleep well, nighty night.

https://youtu.be/l3hgM16Eb8o

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Originally Posted by ProBlue33

The case is made rather well by Ben Shapiro

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Had stopped listening to him ever since he attacked Obama using hate speech terms . More emotional than rational or America-Firster.
I would suggest paying attention only to media pundits who see American Prez's primary duty to safeguard America's interests and not of foreign countries.


Ben Shapiro: Obama White House is ‘borderline a Jew-hating administration’
July 11, 2014 by Tom Tillison
http://www.bizpacreview.com/wp-conte...en_shapiro.jpgTruth Revolt editor Ben Shapiro held nothing back in offering a tough assessment of the Obama administration‘s response to the terrorist group Hamas attacking Israel, saying it’s a borderline “Jew-hating administration.”
http://www.bizpacreview.com/2014/07/...tration-130914

https://twitter.com/haaretzcom/statu...001665?lang=en


Folks like BS and TPUSA spirtual leader Prager are not alone though, this may also explain why various neoconservatives (right wing) have gone from "Never Trumpers" in 2016 to "very pro Trump" in 2020:

Top-neocon reverses course, says Trump's ‘most pro-Israel president ever’

NEXODUS: Neoconservatives from both parties joining GOP-Adelson (MAGA)

https://www.jta.org/wp-content/uploa...IwXsAYe1vq.jpg

I bet most of the people that aren't voting in this election secretly want Trump to win.