So federal decriminalization of weed is Nazism too, huh?
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Oooooooooo, the government wants your opinion. That must mean SOMETHING IMPORTANT. After all, the government neeeeever does something the "people" don't want. Right? Riiiiight?
Get outta here with that garbage.
You're a great example of exactly what I'm talking about. You don't give a single bit about liberty. You're just a mark, thinking and doing what you're told to think and do by your Republican Overlords. You're a perfect example of an Outer Party Member. What you're told to think is "fact" and anything else is "propaganda" and never will you confuse the two. The destruction of life and liberty continues apace and instead of having your face crushed beneath the boot you've opted for licking it.
Ah, that old attack by the baseless hypocrite. Treating people actually standing for human liberty as if they're fools while pretending supporting the powers that rape, pillage, murder and enslave at will as a virtue is one of the most foolish and stupid arguments you can muster. That it is the best you can develop simply demonstrates my argument was correct and you're incapable of saying otherwise. You know these are the things Trump is doing and you know you helped place him in power to do them and you know that you've continued to support him despite the fact that he has continued the destruction of life and liberty apace.
You cannot deny the reality of your role in his actions. And so you don't even try. Instead you try and make others appear weak for opposing them. Well, let me speak plain. If standing for human dignity and liberty is too "purist" to you then you're so full of crap you're eyes must be brown. That basic human liberty is too much for you to support just demonstrates how much of an enemy to liberty you are, despite your virtue signalling otherwise.
And in case you somehow missed it in my original post. I didn't say you were "a murderous Nazi as well as a racist, bigoted, homophobe, Islamaphobe" or anything else. You don't have to be. All you have to do is support and empower those who actively are. Whether you are or are not is irrelevant compared to the outcome of your actions. Most Germans weren't Nazis either. They merely allowed the Nazis to exist and rule. The difference was meaningless for those in the gas chambers.
Well I'm not on your list of "mentions." And I don't personally recall calling you any of that. (Which I guess is why you didn't call me out). And I am 100% fine with supporting Trump when he does something that's actually pro liberty or non interventionist like reaching out to North Korea or attempting to roll back the so called affordable care act. And you have not been one of those making excuses for Trump on the 2nd amendment. That said, I don't personally believe that expanding police powers in the so constitution free zone that is our border or building a wall is good for liberty. I understand your reasoning on that, I just disagree with it.
*Sigh* Take a deep breath. This shows why partisan politics, and even personality politics is toxic. Criminal justice reform is an unqualified good thing. We're not talking about "muh roads" or "muh healthcare" or even "muh border wall." We're talking about reducing the harm that government has already caused. That should be encouraged by people of good will, democrats and republicans. That was making its way through congress. I doubt that will happen this year, in large part because the democrats and the media have made the political environment so toxic. Now you might say "Well what about Trump's toxicity?" Well...what about it? I'm expecting that. The man is an ass. But democrats and republicans could have just ignored the man on this one issue, got it done and let him sign it. As for the drug war? I haven't seen Trump attempt to rollback any of the gains recently made in undoing it. Yes Jeff Sessions is a hard core drug warrior. I wish Jeff Sessions wasn't attorney general. Trump seems to feel the same, but can't fire him because it would look like he was doing it out of spite for Jeff recusing himself on the Russia probe. I saw the picture of the Al Awlawki girl. Yes that was tragic. Obama killed her dad and brother with drone strikes. Obama also bombed the "Doctors Without Borders" in Afghanistan. I'm against Trump when he is wrong (which is often) and was against Obama when he was wrong (which is often). When Obama rarely did something right I actually gave him due credit for doing that.
I asked you a god damn crystal clear fucking question and you won't answer it.
WILL YOU APOLOGIZE TO ME FOR THAT COMMENT IF TRUMP LEGALIZES CANNABIS?
Or will you continue to act like an insane person?
I've had "QUESTION AUTHORITY" bumper stickers on my binders since you were in fucking diapers.
Sure you "question authority." If you didn't ask it what it wants you to do, how would you know what the think or how to act?
Donald Trump can murder thousands of innocent people but as long as he lets you smoke weed you're happy.
And you call me the insane one.
Of course actually questioning authority is something you would label as crazy.
Murdering thousands of people and not throwing innocent people in jail for weed > Murdering thousands of people and also throwing innocent people in jail for weed
You don't understand the concept of a spectrum.
5% income tax > 95% income tax
However, you will find that you are wrong about Trump when he starts bringing troops home.
Swordsmyth's "right direction"
https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/ARgX...13854916.0.jpg
Another example:
https://www.aljazeera.com/mritems/im...e84696f_18.jpg
Yet another example:
https://www.iraqinews.com/wp-content..._388836696.jpg
And a final one: The growth of the power of the Deep State is "the right direction."
http://thewashingtonstandard.com/wp-...-amendment.jpg
Yeah, that is some "progress" you've delivered, Progressive.
The mess the country is in has been 100 years in the making, and people think a president can get in there and just undo all the bad stuff lickity-split.
Cut him a little slack, I say. He's doing his best to do what he feels is right for USAmericans. Can't say that about probably any president in the past 100 years.
I'm satisfied so far. The ball is definitely moving in the right direction, in my opinion.
Like I said, jails are expensive. Instead they'll just destroy your life through fines and extortion. That is oh so more civilized.
Not that you're thinking is in any case logical to start with. I mean the retort is stupidly obvious to anyone who isn't a government shill.
Not supporting the murder of thousands or imprisoning people for smoking weed> Supporting the murder of thousands but making weed legal.
My stance is better than yours no matter how you cut it. And no matter how you cut it you willing chose to support mass murder.
There is no spectrum. That isn't how democracy works. You don't get to claim that you support one thing but not the other. When you vote for someone you empower them to do whatever they can do, no matter what it is. You own their choices. And you chose to support a mass murderer. Who wasn't even promising to let you smoke weed at the time! And now you own his choices to kill.
You can't even claim there weren't other choices. There were plenty who weren't warmongers. But you willingly chose to one vowing to murder thousands of innocent people. And yet you, who openly embrace mass murder as justifiable in any manner, call me crazy for opposing both.
All you are is a government shill. Keep licking those boots. The state thugs need to get the blood of the innocent off them somehow.
I don't care if Trump is an asshole or not. The problem is the results of his actions. The fact that he knows how to throw the exact bone you need to win your support when he is carrying out a Holocaust in Yemen, murdering people in Afghanistan, placing Supreme Court justices on the stand who vow to shred the Constitution, and every other evil, just means he knows how to play you like a fiddle.
He hasn't won my support. I didn't vote for him the first time. I won't vote for him the next time. I support policies, not politicians. Prison reform is a good policy. And it is a good policy that, when enacted, will shrink the size of the federal government. I oppose Trumps border wall because that expands the size of the federal government. Your Hitler analogy was illogical because in your example Hitler was winning support by growing the government, not shrinking it. A more apt analogy would be would I support Hitler's successor, had Hitler won the war, closing down at least some of the concentration camps and freeing the prisoners. Trump didn't start the wars in Afghanistan or Yemen nor did he pass and/or defend the Patriot Act, which is what gutted the 4th amendment, nor did he pass the Clinton crime bill which is the driving force behind mass incarceration. My main criticisms of Obama is the new evils he did, like the wars in Libya and Syria, as opposed to the evil he inherited from a previous president. And exception to that is the Obama administration bombing the Doctors Without Borders hospital because that is especially heinous. Thank you for pointing out the little girl that died in Yemen. Sorry to hear about that. But that doesn't come close to the level of bombing a freaking hospital! It's unlikely that the little girl was the primary target. The pilots who bombed the hospital were recorded saying "This is probably a war crime." And before you say "I don't support Obama either" I'm not saying that you do. I'm talking about how I judge presidents which is on individual actions. And this individual action by Trump will be an unqualified good thing if he happens to pull it off. Emphasis on the word if. Trump is already getting opposition from Republicans like Jeff Sessions who want to "lock em up and throw away the key." And democrats are sabotaging and effort that would be good for their own constituents because they are afraid of losing them. Libertarians are supposed to put principle over everything. Ron Paul, no friend of Trump, supports Trump when he actually does something right. I am doing the same thing.
You guessed right.
That's all I'm doing, is pointing out where he is doing right and should be encouraged or supported.
And I can dig that, reasonable people can reasonably disagree.Quote:
That said, I don't personally believe that expanding police powers in the so constitution free zone that is our border or building a wall is good for liberty. I understand your reasoning on that, I just disagree with it.
For the record, I think police power could be reduced, significantly, while still addressing the issue of who is allowed into the country, for what reasons, and what to do with people who ignore those reasons.
Upon further reflection, the reason legalizing cannabis is important is because there is a central debate taking place on these forums that are all in the same vein.
The idea is that Trump is extremely vulnerable because he has the media and the deep state all fighting him at every step.
He cannot legally do all of the things he wants all at once.
People on my side claim that Trump wants to end the wars, as he has stated many times, and that he wants to allow states to legalize cannabis, he wants to get out of entangling alliances militarily and environmentally, get out of the unfair trade deals, drastically reduce regulations and government bureaucracy, audit the Fed, get rid of Obamacare and obtain many other goals that we all share.
People on your side claim that, for example, Trump said he wanted to allow states to legalize cannabis however he chose Jeff Sessions so he does not want to, or will not, legalize cannabis at the federal level.
Our side claims that Trump had other goals with hiring Sessions, 37D chess or whatever you want to call it, and that cannabis will be safe and in due time will likely be legitimized by his administration.
Your side said we were crazy for thinking that.
So if cannabis is legalized, then that sort of puts a dent in your argument.
It doesn't mean Trump is going to bring all the troops home from around the world the next day, but it shows that Trump is working toward some of the goals that we share and that some of the actions he has taken in hiring early term cabinet members can easily be mischaracterized and used to try and prove that Trump doesn't want to eventually tackle those goals at some point during his administration.
Well, it's a good thing I didn't vote for him then, isn't it?
Because, if you were paying attention, you'd have seen I wrote in Ron Paul, and posted pics of my ballot, in 2016.
So, whydontcha go play in traffic and take you leftist virtue signaling with you.
As your argument is the exact same argument the Bolshevik left is using against the 2nd Amendment and people that support it.
I would happily man the border myself and defend the Republic and shoot to kill if the invaders crossed the line and I would sleep well at night.