"Will come along with?" I believe Rand already has come up with a plan...
"Will come along with?" I believe Rand already has come up with a plan...
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That was the sense I got at first, too. But I think Trump would still be open to Rand's plan IF Rand is able to push things along and make it happen - like Trump will let the two factions fight it out and may the better plan win. Sort of - "Your turn, Rand. Have at it!" They've already been out there expressing alternative viewpoints in the media and have successfully cast much doubt on Ryan's plan - so I'm not convinced we are stuck with it yet.
Rand must feel his position is strengthening again. Happy to hear it.
I agree and Associations which Rand talks about would free people from a certain job or employer as the only way to keep health insurance. An association can be any organization with enough members. I belong to a half dozen organizations that have special offers on car insurance, life insurance etc that give group discounts. The same could work for health insurance. I hate requirements but to immediately solve the PEC people an association that offered group health insurance could be required to take a small percentage.
Still makes no sense. (no matter how much Trumpcuckers want to reconcile it in their cognitively dissonating minds)
If you were going to negotiate to get a good bill, you'd start on the other side. Complete repeal and let the market sort it out. Then you'd come back to the table with concessions. If they're "negotiating", they're doing it for the Democrats.
How you guys don't hang on my every word is beyond me. I'm like an oracle :D.
http://www.breitbart.com/big-governm...cement-debate/
Don't forget Don's self declared negotiating style... He goes balls to the wall knowing he will end up with less.
This seems more like wanting to chalk this one up with as little effort or expenditure of polcapital as possible.
Governmental expediency is usually the knife in Liberty's back...
Holy hell! People really believe this stuff! lol.Quote:
President Trump has used the launch, and decline, of the American Health Care Act to highlight the downside — and take some wind out of the sails of the politicians and policy wonks who convinced themselves they had all the answers.
We'll chalk this up to, "what he really meant was..." or "what he's really trying to do is..." Oh, the Trumpcuckery!!! The cult of personality is strong in these ones.
Yep! 28D Chess!!
Brilliant! I think it goes something like this: (Increase spending and debt + increase entitlements + increase police power + increase warfare + increase size and scope of government) X "Magic!" = Liberty!!!!!!!!!!!!
Damn, I can't wait!!
Yeah, that stinks. Boo!!!
Like her or hate her, Ann Coulter's plan is actually the best out of all prominent plans that have been put out on the table currently. The best, the most libertarian, the smartest. It is this: the bill should have one sentence:
There shall be a free market in health insurance.
That's it! That's all ya need! They've had seven years to come up with this. It's not that complicated.
Then, once they've passed that (and 90% of the problem is thus solved), Ann's plan is that they:
• Repeal the requirement that hospitals provide “free” care to anyone who shows up. Me: Yes! Yes! Yes!
• Repeal the exemption of insurance companies from the antitrust laws. I don't know whether this would be a help or hindrance, but maybe it would help. Much better to repeal all the anti-trust laws, obviously.
• Make health insurance benefits taxable at the same rate as regular income. This actually would be a huge, HUGE deal, long term. You wouldn't see the effects immediately, just as the effects of the WWII wage controls and the health benefits loophole to get around it took decades to percolate and destroy the healthcare system. But slowly but surely, by effectively ending employer-provided insurance, this would bring back care into the control of the individual, which is really the only thing that can restore sanity to the system. Of course you bundle this with the slash in the overall rate so that taxes are still going massively down and at the same time you're ending this perverse incentive. It's a perfect time and opportunity to do this.
Here's the other thing. Everyone's on about how it will take 60 votes in the Senate to do the subsequent phases. 60 votes, 60 votes. So we have to pass this partially birthed monstrosity because it won't need 60 votes. Anything that's not budget needs 60 votes. ANYTHING! Look, does this Congress plan on actually passing any of its agenda, or not? Republicans have the House, the Senate, and the Presidency. Do you know what that means? It means they are in control (at least the public thinks they are and should be). Do you know what the Democrats do when they have control (e.g. in 2008 when they had House, Sentate, and Pres)? They fire up the afterburners and just plain pass stuff, all their stuff, everything they want to do. No brakes. They just push it all through. Procedure doesn't matter. Rules don't matter. Nothing matters but winning, and they just win. Win. Win. Win. Period. So are the Republicans planning on having absolutely zero, literally zero, non-budget bills pass for the next two years? Because that's what will happen. The Democrats will just stonewall. All day, every day. Easiest thing in the world for them. The Republican congressmen are just content and hunky-dory with that?
They are such cowed, useless, quivering LOSERS!
They need to get serious. To actually care about the conservative agenda, like the Democrats care about the socialist one. Short of that, to at least act like they care.
They need to burn some bridges.
They need to go scorched earth.
There's a solution. Do not fear the fillibuster. Just move forward as if it doesn't exist. Pass the bills you want to pass through the House. Just say that everything is a budget bill. That's it! Every bill is a budget bill. Or, alternatively: repeal the fillibuster. Just end it. For everything. For the next eight years, no fillibuster.
Oh, they will howl! Howl, howl, howl. Because nobody likes to lose. Until there is a ceaseless, deafening, 24-hours-a-day cacophony of howling, you know you are not winning. Once there is.... well you know you've at least made a start. Conservatives howled about losing during the Obama years, but conservatives control 0% of the media, entertainment, and cultural leaders. The left controls 100% of it. You think the GOP howling was loud? Once the left starts actually losing (they never have before. Never.), you should hear howling such as this world has never heard.
It will be the most beautiful symphony ever heard; mankind's greatest achievement.
If "pre-existing conditions" include all the high blood pressure, diabetes and heart disease caused by government dietary guidelines and over-prescription of drugs, they could would be wiped out by recognizing that dehydration causes high blood pressure, and that dehydration and carbs cause non-insulin dependent diabetes and cancer.
Just kill the fillibuster!
Just kill the fillibuster!
Once the fillibuster is dead, the votes are there; the path is wide open. To do whatever they want. This whole "process" excuse is nonsense.
That is the current law. People have changed their behavior because of that law. Let's say you worked for a company just for the group health insurance. Then you quit to be self-employed because insurance was now accessible to you. It would be very unreasonable to instantly take that away after making a major life change because of that government policy. Grandfathering someone in is very reasonable. You need predictable rules with some continuity for a free society to work.
One of the strangest, most icky aspects of US health insurance is having to get new insurance with a job switch. That makes pre-existing conditions such a problem.
Yeah, and the "Coulter Plan" (my name) would fix that. For review:
• "There shall be a free market in health insurance."
• Repeal the part of the US Code that requires hospitals to provide free care to any bum who shows up.
• Repeal the exemption of insurance companies from the antitrust laws.
• Make health insurance benefits taxable at the same rate as regular income.
I would add a couple, such as:
• Medicare is hereby repealed in full
• Medicaid is hereby repealed in full
• There shall be a free market in drug and medical development. The FDA is hereby repealed in full.
...but that's just me.