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i will be 81 in sept and think a lot about presidents we have had in the last 70 years . so i am wondering what others think their best/worst potus are , my thoughts are .
best 3
1- eisenhower
2- kennedy
3- bush sr
worst 3
1- johnson
2- nixon
3- bush jr
1 - Dr Ron Paul
2 - Ron Paul
3 - Paul, Ron
Worst
Take your pick...
Any list without Reagan best and LBJ worst is just wrong.
1. Reagan
2. Clinton distant second
3. Maybe Eisenhower as a distant third
Worst 3
1. LBJ
2. Carter
3. W.
Woodrow Wilson was obviously the worst. Not sure who the best was.
Judging on performance..
Best
Trump
Reagan
Kennedy
Worst
Bush Jr.
Wilson
Obama
Judging on character..
Best
Reagan
Trump
Kennedy
Worst
Bush Sr.
Dick Cheney (Bush Jr's puppetmaster)
Woodrow Wilson
Best 3
Eisenhower
Al Haig
Can't come up with a 3rd, they're all too horrible
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Worst 3
Dumbya Bush
LBJ
Amnesty Ron Reagan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUKW0fL-OqY
Lincoln has to be worst. At least the bloodiest.
More like Trump #1. Reagan and Kennedy are OK but Trump's character is terrific, its unmatched how great his character isQuote:
Originally Posted by dannno
Lincoln is the reason why we are still the United States of America. If it weren't for him we'd just be a bunch of tiny shitty countries like europeQuote:
Originally Posted by Danke
It must be excruciatingly hard for you to pick just one. I mean, there are just so many awesome men from which to choose. The greatest men that have ever lived really - almost gods, when you think about it.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheTexan
Best:
Coolidge
Kennedy
Reagan
Jefferson
Washington
Worst:
Wilson
FDR
LBJ
Nixon
Carter
Obama
Bush Sr.
Bush Jr.
Pretty much the rest of them
Best
Harrison
Coolidge
Trump
Adams
Jefferson
Worst
Obammy
Rail splitting Illinois faggette
Obammy
Both Roosevelts
Wilson
I agree, Coolidge was good.
Reagan - not so much. He's way over rated. He was anti 2nd amendment too - really his administration set us on a very bad course, carrying forward secret wars, nixon's war on drugs, and setting the stage for the loss of liberty we are all enjoying today.
Jefferson - liked the guy, but set the stage for taxes. While I agree with many things Jefferson wrote, his actions were not always consistent.
Ikenhower, he may have warned us about the military industrial complex, but he played a role in its inception, and if I'm not mistaken, really ramped up our foreign policy. We can thank Ikenhower for our interventionist foreign policy.
Wilson, Lincoln, Roosevelts - can all rot in hell IMO.
It's like being asked which of your children is your favorite. You're not supposed to have a favorite, but you do.Quote:
Originally Posted by CaptUSA
My favorite is Trump, though Lincoln did basically invent MAGA so its close call
I think this was supposed to be last 70 years.
Obv. Coolidge at the top if you got last 100. Wilson and FDR on the bad list.
Best: Sy Sperling :up:
Worst: All the others :down:
Best-
1) Donald Trump- First and only non-politician and non military personnel to become President. Ending career politics at all levels.
2) Thomas Jefferson- Wrote Declaration of Independence
3) Millard Fillmore- Very laid back
Worst-
1) LBJ- Used a military draft for Vietnam
2)FDR- Military draft, first major abuse of 16th amendment, allowed Japan to attack
3) George W Bush- Allowed 9-11, politicized 9-11, used 9-11 to justifying war in Iraq which created ISIL and ISIS
Top two worst in past 118 years are Wilson , LBJ obviously , I might slide Obama in at the third worst spot for fines for not having health insurance . The three of them are the anti liberty . Tough to pick the three worst though and leave out FDR and Nixon so I can give them honorable mention for bad . Ike would be best after Coolidge .
Interesting that no one mentions Harding who was probably the best president in the past 100+ years.Quote:
Originally Posted by oyarde
He pulled the country out of a huge oncoming depression and did many other things that contributed to Coolidge's legacy. Scandals by some of his administration, combined with a mysterious death, have faded Harding into oblivion & many have put him as one of the worst presidents when he was, in fact, one of the best.
After doing my own research it seems to me he was probably JFK'd & his great service was flushed down the memory hole.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/what-we...ing-seriously/Quote:
Prosperity restored
Harding died of a heart attack on August 2, 1923, having fulfilled his goal of restoring prosperity. The night of his death, his wife Florence had been reading an article to him from the Saturday Evening Post entitled "A Calm Review of a Calm Man" by Samuel G. Blythe. "There is nothing so political as the Presidency," Blythe observed, "and the better a politician a President is the better President he will be." Blythe reminded his readers that things had been in a bad way when Harding came into office, but now America was "the only legitimately prosperous country in the world." Prosperity, he continued, "extends from coast to coast, from the Canadian border to Mexico. Labor is universally employed at high wages. Money is plentiful. All lines of business are flourishing. And there is no other country in the world of which this can be said."
Blythe's account was accurate. Harding's policies, put into practice by men like Charles G. Dawes, succeeded in turning the country around. This was not easy with a fractious Republican party at odds over regional and economic issues. Nevertheless, Harding cut income tax rates for Americans at every income level. According to economist Benjamin Anderson, employment and businesses rallied as a result of "a drastic cleaning up of credit weakness, a drastic reduction in the costs of production, and on the free play of private enterprise."
It had been Harding's hope that inequality of income would decrease as foreign markets expanded, creating more economic opportunities; he worked hard with Herbert Hoover and Charles Evans Hughes to achieve this. Harding also modified his position on the tariff, coming to favor a degree of flexibility. He entered the White House having won an overwhelming mandate. He succeeded in healing a divided country by combining fiscal conservatism with some socially progressive attitudes. His efforts to end lynching and his belief in racial equality showed him to be more enlightened than many of his countrymen. They entitle him to be regarded as one of the first modern civil-rights presidents.
The policies of Harding and his successor Calvin Coolidge were undone in the 1930s, when President Hoover adopted the statist measures that laid the foundations for what would become the New Deal. With the election of Franklin D. Roosevelt, a new kind of welfare state was created, and progressivism began once again to flourish. Surveying the situation in 1940 after the economy's downturn and what people were beginning to call a new Roosevelt depression, Dawes penned a warning:
Some day, a President, if he is to save the country from bankruptcy and its people from ruin, must make the old fight over again, and this time the battle will be waged against desperate disadvantages. Against him will be arrayed the largest, strongest, and most formidably entrenched army of interested government spenders, wasters, and patronage-dispensing politicians the world has yet known.
Dawes was prescient. As the old fight is once again being waged, we can only hope that the president Americans elect in 2012 will be as much of a "reactionary" as Warren G. Harding--and as much of a success.
Ronald Radosh is an adjunct fellow at the Hudson Institute and a writer for Pajamas Media. Allis Radosh is a historian. They are coauthors of A Safe Haven: Harry S. Truman and the Founding of Israel and are writing a book on the presidency of Warren G. Harding. The opinions expressed in this commentary are solely those of the author.
He's not only the president, he's also a client.Quote:
Originally Posted by Occam's Banana
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Originally Posted by Influenza
The reason you humanist progressives don't like Wilson has nothing to do with liberty. You don't like him for some of his "right" leanings. For example, Wilson said:
“America was born a Christian nation."
Wilson also liked the film Birth of a Nation and was denounced as a segregationist.
When will you and your friends be taking down his statue somewhere in America?
I think we fortunately avoided the worst Hillary “I eat embryos for lunch” Clinton. We have Trump to thank for that.
Best
Jefferson
Madison
Cleveland
Harding
Coolidge
Worst
Wilson
Franklin Roosevelt
Johnson
Obama
Seriously?Quote:
Originally Posted by Krugminator2
Is that taking into consideration that of all US Presidents in history Reagan was the biggest supporter/funder of violent extremist Islamist Jihadis and that 9/11 & resulting Iraqi/Afghan Freedom wars cost America trillions of dollars and injury/death of millions of Americans?
He even dedicated Space Shuttle launch to honor violent Islamist Jihadi militants. Al Qaeda was birthed in sanctury of same Jihadi militants. Even to this day, America is still engaged in its longest war history fighting the very militants Reagan armed/funded.
Just this week, two US troops were killed in Afghanistan. Many more have died/lost limbs in past 17 years .
So if the reason I don't like Wilson is because he was a segregationist, that has nothing to do with liberty? Really? lol...Quote:
Originally Posted by NorthCarolinaLiberty
BTW, when you make retarded posts like this, are you really 100% sure in your accusations, like you mentioned? Or is that a facade? I think swordsmyth may need to induct a new fellow in his paranoid schizophrenic club
must spread rep aroundQuote:
Originally Posted by enhanced_deficit
Best President = King George III. Check out that low low tax rate!
It would be very difficult to get a zero income tax through legislation. What can be done is pardons of tax evasion. Donald Trump has pardoned people involved with the Bundy ranch which is very close to saying you don't have to pay taxes esp since Donald Trump owns a hotel business that is his intention.Quote:
Originally Posted by thoughtomator
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Originally Posted by Influenza
Reagan had the best foreign policy of any modern president. He only used military force a few times. And they were small scale. He had the wisdom to cut and run in Lebanon. Grenada was justified and successful. And retaliating against Qaddafi's attack on American soldiers was justified. There were no humanitarian missions.Quote:
Originally Posted by enhanced_deficit
And he wasn't passive aggressive like cuckold Jimmy Carter. He made it clear, "We win, they lose." His ability to tackle issues head from a position of strength ended tensions without firing a shot.
Any list that has Wilson under the worst, but has neither Harding nor Coolidge under the best, is one crappy list.Quote:
Originally Posted by dannno
For those of us who can actually count to 70, as the OP requested, there have been no best presidents since 1938. There have been mediocre presidents and there have been awful presidents. But there have been no good presidents.