Israel has done nothing wrong here. They're simply defending their own country after an attack by Hamas.
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Israel has done nothing wrong here. They're simply defending their own country after an attack by Hamas.
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A full-blown incursion and bombing runs with innocent casualties doesn't help a whole lot.
The essential problem is how does Israel stop these rocket attacks? Who is actually launching them? Who is in control? Is Hamas directing every single rocket shooting fool out there, or are they doing it on their own? The US was in control of Iraq and Afghanistan, yet people still attacked innocents constantly. Who do you blame? Does the buck stop at Bush or Obama for allowing terrorism to occur under their watch? Now apply that to Gaza. Who do you blame? Is there one person that could be assassinated to stop the rockets? Probably not. Is there a certain number of people who could be killed to stop it? Probably not. That leads to the logical conclusion that something else needs to be tried.
You can be a rational non-anti-semite and not support Israel's government.
I don't make anyone look bad, Israel's gov't actions make them look bad, because they are bad.
I do not support our current government, nor do I support Israel's, which is ridiculously intertwined with our own. And another thing for you who yell "anti-semite!" at those of us who try desperately to end this god damned conflict with ethical solutions--fuck you. I was on the side of the Jews when they were oppressed by the Germans, and I'm on the side of the Palestinians when they are oppressed by the Israelis.
It's called philosophical consistency. And your name calling is a bunch of bullshit. I am not anti-anyone, except jackasses who try to force their bullshit down other people's throats, people who kill, people who steal, people who terrorize, people who torture. If it makes me an anti-semite to be opposed to that, then I'll take the title with honors.
Oh. So I should assume that you're talking to some other nameless person who is being critical of Israel's gov't. By making a "general statement" rather than referring to a specific person--you were referring to me and a lot of other people. If you can dish it out--you ought to be able to take it.
And if cursing bothers you so much, the internet isn't for you. And it is appropriate for me to curse at people who imply that I'm racist when I am not. At least I don't support wanton killing, theft and lies as you seemingly do--at least in this case.
I can't understand how someone is so offended by a "fuck you" when they are totally okay with killing innocent people.
Knowing the media and propaganda I'm surprised you think the narrative of who started it is true. I can show you ample proof hamas not only plays ball with Israel but also does her favors in order to stay in politics, such as arresting members of small resistance groups.
More times than not if a rocket landed in Israel it wasn't from hamas unless they're retaliating.
And like I said before their existence violated palestinians rights. If Texas was occupied by china fifty years from now and oppressed Americans and stole their land would you say Texans have a moral right to fight the occupation.
Israel didn't start it, sounds like an oxymoron.
If you support Israel for personal reasons fair game. They are your opinions. But to try to defend their blatantly wrong actions seems silly.
Personal digs are always veiled as general statements on moderated forums. It's an old troll trick.* I wont make mine general though, you have to be an Islamaphobe to not see the injustices of Israel.
*Did you see that, general statement, not directed at you!
See the link in my sig for a well thought out argument on this topic. No anti-semitism or hate, just logic.
You are not knowledgeable. You need to read more.
The Quartet are the United Nations, the United States, the European Union, and Russia.
Why does Israel have demands?
Because the war is not about a Palestinian statehood or anything (only a small percentage of people are nationalist rest are Islamist) This war is a religious war. The muslims support the Palestinians because its their religious duty. I live in the United Arab Emirates and many Islamic organizations here send money to Hamas because of 'Jerusalem', they consider it as the Holy Site and consider the Jews as apes and pigs and they believe that the Jews must be killed to usher in their Islamic Messiah.
When Ehud Olmert was Prime Minister, he said that Israel will pull out of every Palestinian land with swaps on both sides. with Jerusalem under the U.N, but Abbas said No because he wanted Jerusalem in Islamic hands.
"To understand the Middle East conflict and especially what's going on in Israel, you must understand that it is a blood-feud between two brothers that goes back 5000 years"
-- Billy Graham
That might me true if Zionists were related to Abraham.
They are NOT for the most part.
Khazars are not related. (they are decedents of Japheth) And many true Jews reject Zionism outright and oppose the State of Israel and it's policies.
There is a conflict between God and Satan though.
I'm not an Islamaphobe, but I'm also not anti Israel. Hating Israel is not part of supporting a non interventionist foreign policy. I support closing down all of our foreign bases, ending all foreign aid, opposing pre-emptive war, etc. But I also support the right of Israel to defend itself.
What "right" did they have when they were blowing up hotels?
This started long before WWII,, long before the Nazi party was invented.
Zionists were using terrorism to get their way from the start. right up to their demands for a state and continuing since.
Do ya'll realize that you're debating skirmishes in another country that our country shouldn't be involved with?
It doesn't matter one whit to me who's right or who's wrong, what matters to me is why in the hell is our military involved with no declaration of war.
This bullshit is being force fed to TV viewers as relevant to the US because of our "interests"....Yeah right!
Oil is our interest and if war is necessary to secure our interest in oil then for Gods sake declare war, state the objectives and get on with it.
Otherwise our military needs to come home and leave `em be.
That would be my first wish,,
That was one of the reasons I supported Ron Paul,, because he would have gotten us out of it.
That area is headed for a Cataclysmic War, and the Zionists are the main push behind it.
They will drag the whole world into it.
Sad and unfortunate on many levels..
I will oppose it, though there seems no way to avoid it.
I certainly will not support it nor the evil fucks that are pushing it.
What was Israel supposed to do he threw a rock at an armored vehicle
http://palestineremembered.com/image...umanshield.jpg
Out of all of the outrages that occur, that's a pretty lame attempt at generating an emotional reaction. People are dying. People are being beaten. People's homes are being stolen or destroyed. People are being unfairly imprisoned. That picture looks like a teenager getting a time out for being a bad boy.