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  • lilymc's Avatar
    Today, 09:37 PM
    Why no response to anything I said in my previous post? It's easy to post scriptures like the one above, but it doesn't negate anything I said. I already mentioned this passage earlier. I was about to go over all the different interpretations of that passage (there are a few, from a vegetarian/vegan perspective) but I honestly was not intending to get into a Bible study tonight, and that is not even the topic of this thread anyway, so we can go into more detail on this at another time, on another thread. For now I'll say this. Picture in your mind a timeline. At the very beginning, you have God's perfect will (peace and harmony among all living beings, no violence, no killing, no meat eating)...And then at the end, when God restores that original design, once again you'll have God's perfect will. Everything in between is a symptom of this fallen world. Not God's perfect will, but in many cases God giving us over to what we want, due to the hardness of our hearts. So when you look at that timeline, and you see on the left and on the right, God's perfect will… and in the middle this fallen world… what should we, as Christians, aim for? Unless it is a matter of survival, why not honor God's original design and His ultimate plan which he is moving us toward, as we speak? Why not think about the condition of mankind overall, and question why there is so much disease, violence, corruption? Perhaps if we go back to how God originally designed us – to be peaceful, non-violent, and to eat a healthy plant-based diet – then we would see a reversal of these diseases and destruction of this beautiful earth God gave us stewardship of. Also, think about the fruit of the Spirit. What is more in line with love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control – a slaughterhouse or a garden? :) Please answer honestly.
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    Today, 07:02 PM
    Again, the important thing is God's original design/intent, which is the same as God's ultimate plan, as prophesied in Isaiah and other places. Since God does not change, I believe it is wrong to dismiss God's original design by cherry picking verses that may at first glance appear to contradict it. There are a few different interpretations of that verse about Abel and his offering. The mainstream interpretation seems to be that once sin came into the world, that's when sacrifices were introduced, to of course foreshadow Jesus' sacrifice for our sin. Since this represented something very serious and horrible, it was not something to be done lightly. (And btw, nowhere in that text does it say they ate meat. In fact, that verse doesn't say that Abel killed anything, just that he brought God the best of his flock.) There are a couple other views on that passage… But I don't have time right now to get into all of that. Also, I think it's very important to know that God repeatedly said that he has no pleasure in animal slaughter and he never required it. (Psalm 51:16, Hosea 6:6, Jeremiah 7:22, Isaiah 1:11, Matthew 9:13, Hebrews 10:8, Psalm 40:6, Mark 12:33, Jeremiah 32:30, etc.) So when you put all that together – the heart of God, a heart of love, mercy, compassion, along with his very clear words in Genesis 1:29, and the numerous verses about his desire for mercy, not sacrifice…I think it is wrong to assume that God has no problem with what we are doing with animals.
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    Today, 06:42 PM
    If you're trying to convince people you're an expert on how that happens, you're doing it right.
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    Today, 06:16 PM
    Because there are ten of them in an hour.
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    Today, 05:33 PM
    See something. Say something. Get ignored.
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    Today, 05:26 PM
    If you put an AR-15 with the black thingie that goes up in Sainte Mother Theresa's hands, she'll run right out to the nearest school and start mowing students down. They have the psycho enzyme built into their handles and no normal person can control themselves when they have that black thingie going up in their hands. That must be why it's the people who have an AR-15 and don't run out and mow down children with it who are the mentally ill ones! Q: How can you tell when corporations like Wal Mart have taken over the whole of society? A: When people who can control their impulses are considered mentally ill. He walked right past the soft pretzel booth without spending a dime! Put that straitjacket on him!
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    Today, 03:35 PM
    no shit I was surprised to hit 30,, I really did not expect to.. that was thirty years ago,, and I was old at 20. still running,, ain't leakin' and have no idea when I get to go home. some laps on a track would be great fun though. I'm starting to have serious concerns of lasting till 100.
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    Today, 03:25 PM
    ALL under professional "care". The "care" and the Profession should both be scrutinized. I do not believe any longer that these are unintended consequences. Rather I believe these shooters to be victims just as much as their targets. while the perps investigate themselves and the media obfuscates the facts.
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    Today, 03:08 PM
    Why does the question, 'Are boys broken?' sound to me like toxic feminists asking, 'Have we won yet?'
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  • lilymc's Avatar
    Today, 02:21 PM
    You're bringing up a different topic and I'm not sure what you believe because as Pete said on that other thread, it is all over the place… But it is certainly not the standard Christian belief. As for the verse about Adam naming the animals, that only confirms what I've been saying. God's original design which we saw in the Garden of Eden was peace and harmony, not a slaughterhouse. Adam was to take care of the animals, name them, and nowhere in Genesis 1 did God say "I created animals for you to eat and exploit." Genesis 1:29 is very very clear, don't ignore that verse. Abel being a keeper of sheep does not mean for the purpose of eating them. The Bible is also clear that meat eating wasn't permitted until after the flood, and it is argued that that was only because all the vegetation was dead and there would have been very little to eat at that time. If any meat eating did occur before the flood, it almost certainly would have been because the fallen angels who corrupted mankind taught them all sorts of demonic things, meat-eating being one of them. In fact, some extra biblical writings say just that, I can look it up and post it for you if you want. Not nearly as much as Coke or apple juice and things like that. Also, almond milk comes unsweetened. :)
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    Today, 02:15 PM
    They should just color code the murders in blue too. This would save on bits and bandwidth and stuff.
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  • pcosmar's Avatar
    Today, 01:54 PM
    Did he? I don't remember hearing that from any of the survivors.. or old recordings I had heard. They thought he was a prophet.
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    Today, 01:46 PM
    Unimpeachable stuff.
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  • pcosmar's Avatar
    Today, 01:45 PM
    NO,, it did not. and I went to a school with over 2000 students and lots of guns. Had a shooting range in the basement.. We trained with M-14s. Had an armory,, 3 full auto. This shit didn't happen. Not till after the creation of the CIA,, and MKultra. Drug manufacturers and Headshrinkers+Wargamers. Social Control. Mind Control. They have had the ability to create monsters at will.
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    Today, 01:39 PM
    Well, whatever you do, Limey, don't look Oklahoma up on any of those lists! Especially not the last one! If you're thinking of moving yourself to one or the other, take my advice! Pick New Hampshire! Please!
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    Today, 01:17 PM
    Always nice to check up from time to time and make sure YouTube is getting Sanitized for Our Protection
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    Today, 12:03 PM
    At what age does one become a "Geezer"?
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    Today, 11:01 AM
    It's wierd that you guys can't understand what Rev is saying. There is no need to delve deep into argumentation ethics or legal theory: use is not an adequate proof of ownership.
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    Today, 09:13 AM
    which one was the happy one?
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  • lilymc's Avatar
    Today, 02:12 AM
    Speaking of that, I came across a shocking statistic today… I want to verify if this is true, but it’s very interesting. Apparently, many companies have a financial interest in keeping animal agriculture going. Of course people are eating this and it’s causing resistance… and people are getting sick which means they need more pharmaceutical drugs. And who benefits from that?
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    Today, 01:24 AM
    This is a really good video, I highly recommend taking the time to watch it.
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    Today, 01:18 AM
    OK, I see you’re joking now. As for the Scriptures, I was specifically talking about God‘s original purpose and design. Animals were not designed to be food. Fruits and veggies and food from the ground was. There is absolutely no denying that, it’s right there in the first chapter of the first book of the Bible. God‘s original design was a plant-based diet, and God‘s ultimate plan is a restoration of that original peace and harmony we had for short time in the garden of Eden. Everything in between is this fallen world and God gave us over to the things we wanted, but that doesn’t mean it was His idea or that He likes it.
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    Today, 12:00 AM
    I absolutely am an absolutist. Precisely because I am prohibited.. None of those Gun Laws are necessary,, and none has prevented a crime.. ever. None are valid under our Constitution. Gun Laws were all about controlling people. not guns. Disarmed people are easily controlled by people with guns. Armed people sometimes resist.. and kill those that oppress them. Authoritarians do not like the ability to resist.
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    Yesterday, 11:44 PM
    Social Engineering. Elitist culture perhaps.
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    Yesterday, 11:40 PM
    I am sad and angry precisely because I accept history as a sad reality. I am angry when I see it repeated.
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    Yesterday, 11:37 PM
    We're products of colonial history, too, Einstein. While your ancestors were blithely allowing hungry children to be executed for stealing loaves of bread--and saying oh, gee, that must be the right thing to do or the king wouldn't be doing it--our ancestors were getting the hell out and burning our bridges behind us. That's why countless of these situations get prevented here by armed citizens who take out the psychotic before he or she can hurt more than one innocent person. But, of course, you won't believe me when I tell you that, because you didn't see it on the BBC. Well, you know, we don't mind if you remain willfully ignorant. But we wish you'd stop acting surprised when we don't fall on our faces and thank you for your half-baked, ill-considered, terrible, unsolicited advice on how we should run a country which you could never hope to understand or appreciate. If you're so sure you understand the finer points of this situation, let me ask you this: What did Hitler do to the Roma, and the Jews, and the communists like you, first? Give up? He disarmed them first. That was his first order of business. Now, what if they had refused to comply? Would that have been a terrible thing? Of course, you're going to tell me that was a different situation. Hitler was involved. And I have to admit, Trump doesn't look much like Hitler. He looks a lot more like Mussolini. But what he's doing to Northern Africa, it took both Il Duce and his crazy buddy to do. So you'll just have to excuse us if we choose to retain the ability to protect our Jews. And if you don't like it, well, we've already made several helpful suggestions about what you can do...
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  • lilymc's Avatar
    Yesterday, 10:51 PM
    There are numerous former dairy farmers who could no longer do it and ended up going vegan, who are now saying something very different than this Canadian farm. But if you would rather believe the ones who want to continue making a profit and not have their industry tarnished, then go right ahead. I'll stick with actual video footage anyone can see online, as well as numerous people who either grew up in that environment or worked as dairy farmers for years, who are telling it like it is.
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