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    05-17-2019, 09:57 AM
    So if you find one of those cameras, where it doesn't belong, can you adopt it and take it when you leave?
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    05-17-2019, 09:36 AM
    This looks like a job for...
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    05-16-2019, 05:09 PM
    This is Trump's albatross, no one else's.
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    05-16-2019, 02:36 PM
    https://www.tennessean.com/story/news/crime/2019/05/15/donnie-johnson-execution-tennessee-forgoes-last-meal/3669463002/
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    05-16-2019, 02:36 PM
    Yeah. I saw that. Still praying but accepting God's will.
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  • TER's Avatar
    05-16-2019, 10:06 AM
    It appears the governor is not going to intervene on behalf of Don Johnson. May God have mercy on Mr. Johnson and forgive him for his sins and remember him in His kingdom.
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    05-15-2019, 08:02 PM
    I didn't see anything in that article about how it works. Typically, "wireless" transmission of electricity is done through induction. That requires alternating current. Nothing in the magnet setup causes induction.
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    05-15-2019, 12:52 PM
    Here! You can use this for an avatar.
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    05-15-2019, 07:43 AM
    I can't see how that works. There is probably something under the table, that's producing the electricity.
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    05-15-2019, 07:13 AM
    Been seeing a lot of wild turkeys this year. I take my dogs out in the field behind my house and they are everywhere. They take off and fly over and my dogs look up like there is an airplane flying overhead. They are setting off my motion detectors almost every day up near the house.
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  • TER's Avatar
    05-14-2019, 12:49 PM
    Hey CL, Came across this source (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eastern_Orthodox_opposition_to_papal_supremacy) for the information below which list some more arguments from the tradition of the Holy Ecumenical Councils which counter the Roman claim for supremacy: Major points: Not one Ecumenical Council was called by a pope; all were called by Byzantine emperors. Had the teaching of primacy formed part of Holy Tradition, then such power would have been exercised to resolve the many disputes in the early history of the church. A general council may overrule decisions of the Roman Pontiff Decisions taken by popes in cases involving against bishops have often been confirmed by ecumenical councils. This indicates that the papal decision itself is not considered binding.
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  • Dr.3D's Avatar
    05-14-2019, 11:04 AM
    If she didn't give them permission to do a drug test, she should be able to sue them.
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  • TER's Avatar
    05-14-2019, 09:01 AM
    Edit: I just realized you were talking about purgatory. I don't know the answer to that and would defer to someone who knows more about it.
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  • TER's Avatar
    05-14-2019, 08:39 AM
    Hello friend and good morning! I am happy to see you quoting Church Fathers! That demonstrates your real progress in understanding the Church and the apostolic faith. May the Lord continue to guide you as you grow closer to Him as a member of His Body! You are taking a very careful and thoughful approach and I commend you! No single Church Father should be the sole source to draw from as no personal is infallable. Rather, it is in the consensus of the Saints whereby we find the truth parsed away from personal opinion. Again, the summit of the faith outside the Holy Scriptures is found in the canons and doctrinal teachings elucidated in the Holy Councils. The Christian faith (especially as understood within the Orthodox Church) allows for opinions on matters of faith so long as they do not counter the proclaimed teachings in the Holy Councils.
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  • Christian Liberty's Avatar
    05-13-2019, 10:49 PM
    http://www.newadvent.org/fathers/3001015.htm To be clear, I intend to continue discussing with TER (and anyone else, if they decide they're interested) on the original thread as well, but this is something I want to get people's thoughts on. As far as the early church fathers go, I feel that this is the strongest pro-papal polemic that I've personally read through, to my knowledge. There are some other arguments that I'd use, and I would not have converted on the grounds of a single church father. I am curious to hear from others, but particular from Eastern Orthodox. After you have read this letter, do you feel that Jerome's statements here can be reconciled with an Eastern Orthodox view of the papacy? Or do you feel that Jerome was simply wrong (which would be an understandable conclusion, obviously not every Father agreed on everything) but ultimately that this particular saint and church father would've held more to an RC view of the pope than a Protestant one?
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    05-13-2019, 09:18 PM
    Breaking into people's homes is a good way to get shot.
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    05-13-2019, 09:05 PM
    Isn't that how a free market works? Doesn't the price usually reflect whatever the market will bear.
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  • TER's Avatar
    05-13-2019, 02:25 PM
    Before we get into Matthew 16 (which we most definitely need to discuss), I would like to unpack alittle more the role of the Bishop of Rome and the Ecumenical Councils, that is, how he was understood and his place within them. The Church Fathers are quintessential is understanding the ‘faith handed down once upon the saints’, however, the greater authority above them are the Holy Ecumencial Councils. This is the Orthodox teaching (as well as the Roman Catholic teaching). Thus while we can find certain writings of Church Fathers extolling how important the Roman See is within the unity of the Church, (it was considered first in honor), I am not aware of any specific writing of the Apostolic writers which describe the Roman Bishop as being the ‘principle of unity’, let alone the supreme leader over the Church. Indeed, I am fairly confident you will find no such proclamation. With regards to the Holy Ecumencial Councils which dogmatically define the doctrines and canons of the Church, you will find no such proclamation either. Indeed, it was unheard of, even by the western church leaders, that Rome had authority over the entire Church. This is a completely foreign idea in the Holy Ecumenical Councils. Not one Pope (nor his delegation) presided over a Holy Ecumencial Council. In fact, decisions were made in the absence of the bishop of Rome or even in spite of his outright opposition. Even in cases where his suggestions were accepted, they were first examined by the Synod, compared to the ecclesiastical tradition and only when synodal agreement was secured would they be accepted. The fifth Ecumenical Synod has particular significance for the question of the role of Pope of Rome within the communion of the Church when it condemned Pope Vigilius after his unjustified refusal to meet in council with the other Patriarchs. For the ancient Church in both the East and the West, the pope was subject to synodal judgment and authority in not only matters of faith but also in those regarding the canonical order of the Church. In this same Council (the Fifth Ecumencial Council), the position of the ancient Church has been recorded in an official and categorical manner in the “synodal decree”, the “Horos” of the that Council:
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  • Christian Liberty's Avatar
    05-13-2019, 01:49 PM
    Good question. I was kind of paraphrasing the statements of certain church fathers (particularly, Ireaneus, Cyprian, and Jerome), not a particular ecunemical council. I could fairly easily dig up the citations from which I'm building up to that idea, and explain why, but I'm not sure if that's the direction you want to go in or not. I'd also point to the whole Quartodeciman controversy, and how Ireaneus deals with it, as well as 1 Clement as supporting evidence. And of course there's also Matthew 16.
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  • TER's Avatar
    05-13-2019, 01:43 PM
    Thank you for starting this thread! I hope to learn from it as I admittedly have much to learn, especially in regards to Catholic ecclesiology. There are several important points you bring up above, but to dig beneath the surface, I would like to start with one topic at a time (whole books can and have been written on each topic alone!) I think it would be good to start with the common origin for both Churches before we delve deeper into more recent doctrines put forward by the RC post-schism. Those are of course extremely important, but it would be good to start from the foundation whereby the unified Church rests upon so as to discern where each Church stands at this time and the tradition they draw from. Papal infallability (as a professed dogma of the RC) was defined in the “First Ecumenical Council of the Vatican” in 1869, which was 800 years after the Great Schism. Thus while it calls itself “ecumenical”, it applies only to the post-schism RC.
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  • Christian Liberty's Avatar
    05-13-2019, 12:52 PM
    I'm gonna start this thread by replying to what TER said on the other thread, but I consider this thread fair game for discussion on Catholicism, Eastern Orthodoxy, and the various differences between them. I'm willing to grant that I struggle with this doctrine. Had I lived before 1870, I certainly would have sympathized with the conciliarists who did not believe in papal infallibility. I accept it because I believe the Bishop of Rome is the principle of unity in the Christian Church, and thus I do believe that a valid ecunemical council ruled in favor of this doctrine. I guess I don't see it so much as a "safety clause" so much as I see it a kind of spiritual version of the referee or umpire. His word is the final word in specific circumstances, but that doesn't mean he's a perfect person or that everything he says is perfect. There are problems with this analogy, but I think you can see where I'm going with it. The Magisterium exists to clarify tradition, not to overturn it and certainly not to make every off the cuff opinion of the Pope infallible. Annulments were much more rare before Vatican II. I don't have a problem with the concept in and of itself. Certain marriages just are not possible. To give an extreme example, consider for instance a man who "married" a woman that he later learned was his sister. Or perhaps a woman who already had a spouse, but lied to him. Say a man lied and claimed to be a layman, but in actuality he was already an ordained priest, bound to celibacy. Or consider perhaps the case of an Islamic child bride who is too young to really consent to marriage in the first place. These are among the conceivable situations where we could imagine an annulment being sensible. I agree that, especially post Vatican II, often annulments have basically become a cover for divorce, but that's not the way its supposed to work.
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    05-12-2019, 08:19 PM
    Before my grandmother died, she gave me a 1922 Peace dollar. It was special to her and me, because that was the year my mother was born. I remember her saying, "Don't spend it!", as if I was stupid and would spend such a valuable gift. I have since put it in one of those air-tite plastic cases. Still looks brand new.
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    05-12-2019, 05:34 PM
    It's a trap....
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    05-12-2019, 12:10 PM
    Yes, and those whores don't like it if they get pregnant while bargaining and can't kill the baby when they have an accident.
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    05-12-2019, 10:53 AM
    Good, one less person getting pregnant so she can have an abortion. Seems folks have forgotten what sex is for in the first place.
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    05-11-2019, 02:46 PM
    He sent him His love
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    05-11-2019, 02:43 PM
    Let me fly, let me fly, let me fly away
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    05-11-2019, 02:20 PM
    i was born under a wand'rin' star.
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    05-11-2019, 02:12 PM
    Well, so do I. You have a problem with that?
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Ron needs to quit playing defense and go on offense. It's not enough to say "the Soviet Union was worse than Iran." If he could point out the following documented facts it would shut the naysayer up for good or at least make them back-peddle.

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