• Raginfridus's Avatar
    Yesterday, 11:41 PM
    So if mankind will make tribes, fiefdoms, or self-govern what-have-you, then the State vs Chaos dilemma is false. There's chaos within States, and inflicted by them, enough to go around for generations. The State isn't magically inevitable, it doesn't protect our personal Liberty, and all its amounted to, after 400 years trying, is a clusterfuck bigger than any previously tried. So this one's for anybody who's read this far: what's wrong with libertarians living parallel to, but as far from within, the State as they can get? Anarchy doesn't have to mean chaos if you're living self-governed as best you can. It doesn't necessarily mean balaclava and molotovs, if the libertarian has taken the appropriate actions towards anarchic, sovereign living. The op might ask instead, "should libertarians support open warfare with the State?" Do we need to review what happens, when people go to war with the FBI? They lose. Always.
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  • heavenlyboy34's Avatar
    Yesterday, 11:36 PM
    :( Sorry, bro. Nailed it^^ that reminds me... Ma Vlast is a classic example of State origin mythology that's not all that different from the myths Muricans make up for their sense of national origin and identity.
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  • heavenlyboy34's Avatar
    Yesterday, 11:26 PM
    Good sir, you misunderstand. That list is category/subject-specific. That the individual authors had shortcomings does not diminish the value of those works. I have lots of qualms with Rothbard, Ron Paul, Hoppe, von Mises, etc, but I also like a lot of what they do. And they're good enough that I consider them part of the libertarian canon(or as Riggenbach calls it "The Libertarian Tradition"). ETA: RP likes Murray, and Mises was a fan too(though Mises didn't agree with his politics, of course). You should give him an honest chance. His history and econ are world class, even though his ethics are flawed.
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  • Raginfridus's Avatar
    Yesterday, 11:05 PM
    Nations aren't governments by any definition. Nation-States are nations with a state government. That still leaves you explaining why it is States are inevitable, when they're not. They have to be fought for, won, and kept or they don't happen. I know founding myths like to romanticize the State's conquest of a Nation, but the magic ain't how they come to be.
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  • Raginfridus's Avatar
    Yesterday, 10:44 PM
    Why do you believe States are inevitable? In who's interest is it to tell you that, because States are magically inevitable, therefore we need them now? Is mankind on some sort of progressive trajectory? Is the Inevitable State going to perfect us? History attests that States are not inevitable, that they've had to be fought and won for. Keeping in mind States =/= Nations, Nations corrode as the rule of the State centralizes.
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    Yesterday, 10:07 PM
    What if I told you that the State does not protect Life or Liberty from enemies foreign or domestic? Yeah, that's what an opinion bloc are, they're often movements or trusts colonized by opportunists. Once they gain the audience's attention, they build brand loyalty, then their editors cut out the old guard. That's how the Trotskyists used NatRev and such to gag the Conservatives.
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    Yesterday, 09:51 PM
    My midlife crisis going to be the worst. LGBTQHB will rise to full power by then.
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  • Raginfridus's Avatar
    Yesterday, 09:36 PM
    Not the State? I hope you don't mean Liberty of the State, because then you have no grounds to complain. They are the AltRight, started opinion bloc'ing ~10 ago as the AlternativeRight.
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  • Raginfridus's Avatar
    Yesterday, 09:28 PM
    Is that the boy who likes boobies? Safari isn't buffering the video. I mean, there was a time when ~15 was manhood, and I think its ~13 for aborigines, after their Walkabout.
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  • ChristianAnarchist's Avatar
    Yesterday, 09:19 PM
    Love the flag and country all you want but don't try to force others to behave in some "prescribed" way...
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  • Raginfridus's Avatar
    Yesterday, 09:14 PM
    So if the simple facts of libertarianism need to conform to a definite position, assuming these simple facts aren't capriciously chosen by a mob or an elite as the wind blows, what's the bedrock identity libertarians need to share: the Nation or the State? Which one's the most resilient heritage to found a libertarian identity upon? You've established it isn't the individual, and that we don't owe loyalty to fiefdoms like NatRev. Here's what I mean: https://www.usip.org/glossary/state-versus-nation Try AltRight.com they must have switched domains after 2011. New brand, same bs.
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  • ChristianAnarchist's Avatar
    Yesterday, 08:54 PM
    Wow... I can't believe how far from LIBERTY this forum has gone. I remember the good ol' days when people here used to quote Ron Paul and want to be like him. Now a good number of you want to start boot licking and feeling all good about waving a flag while bombing the shit out of anyone you think looks at you sideways. Why am I here again???
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  • Raginfridus's Avatar
    Yesterday, 08:34 PM
    Way to go Lamp you fucker, SPLC just labeled everyone in the Town of Americana right-wing terrorists, because they saw your post. Antifa are fake outraged once again.
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  • Raginfridus's Avatar
    Yesterday, 07:35 PM
    Hm, I guess we never should have gotten involved... Haha, at least the Iranians are natives with roots in the region, Bibi Bomber.
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  • Raginfridus's Avatar
    Yesterday, 07:22 PM
    These men have wild appetites but no self-control. So they marry Femnazis for politics, but they can't feed the monkey, because the Mrs is out saving the world. Their sex drive deferred, they save time by praying on the weakest women - or girls - to get their fill of sex. Why not just channel that ambition into something they can handle while they're still young, and marry beautiful, relatively unambitious woman who can please them? Or just stick to hookers. At least a hooker isn't going to set you up (unless its a sting). Yeah, she entrapped him, but Weiner thought she loved him for his manliness and charm.
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  • Natural Citizen's Avatar
    Yesterday, 07:06 PM
    Well, she openly admitted that she set him up. Still, though, the guy should have known better.
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  • Natural Citizen's Avatar
    Yesterday, 07:02 PM
    If I was the maid, the whole house would be cleaned. Like yesterday. Sorry, boys. Business is business.
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  • Natural Citizen's Avatar
    Yesterday, 06:52 PM
    The more I think about the pure comfort level of that of some of the trolls we have here these days, and the more that I see them just continue doing it with no fear of being checked, the more I wonder if there is a reason that they're being allowed to run amok. There has to be a reason. We wouldn't go for this kind of thing even a year ago. There must be reason for the sudden change in tolerance for such blatantly reckless behavior. Usually, I'll go check a troll's friends list to see if it's the same old troll, since the same old troll usually keeps the same friends both here and there, but this self-defined Canadian High School student seems to know a little too much for a self-defined Canadian High School student. Dear Lamp is a little braver than he oughtta be. I thought he was talking about playing video games. Admittedly he wasn't.
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  • Raginfridus's Avatar
    Yesterday, 06:39 PM
    OK So the choice of who/what/when/where/why to support "X" is ultimately in the hands of the individual?
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  • Raginfridus's Avatar
    Yesterday, 06:25 PM
    So you would never subscribe to something like HuffPo or NatRev for libertarians? Also, what kind of support are we talking about? What -isms can be supported by libertarians? One more thing, can the Alt-Right be supported by libertarians? (However you define support.)
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  • Raginfridus's Avatar
    Yesterday, 06:09 PM
    Is forming an opinion bloc and centrally directing the "narrative" from the top down libertarian, so that libertarians are told what they can/cannot support also libertarian? No government, just *official* talking points.
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