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Great! Now do you really think RFK Jr. will have more influence in the seond Trump administration than vice president J. "Deep State" Vance? We'll see I guess.

Something else to consider Swordsmyth. The article pointed out Trump's preference for "Christian refugees." However Ukraine wasn't in a refugee crisis while Trump was president. But the immigration of Chritains who were being persecuted, like in Syria and Iran, was cut under Trump. Trump even went after Iraqi Christian refugees who had been here for decades. https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/immigration/despite-trump-s-promise-protect-them-christian-refugees-struggle-enter-n908501 At the 2017 conference where Pence made his speech about Christianity being under siege, including in Syria and Iraq, two Christians from Syria were scheduled to take part in a panel. But the two men were denied U.S. visas, according conference organizers, and could not attend after all. While Christian refugees face difficulties securing U.S. visas, hundreds of Iraqi Christians already in the U.S., many of whom fled their home country years ago, are now facing the threat of deportation.

Obama : "Blow up Libya and Syria for democracy." Trump : "Make sure you get the oil or don't do it." That's about the extent of the improvement.

The article does not admit what you claim it admits. Quite the opposite. It says that the Trump phone call to Ukraine had nothing to do with Ukrainian immigration, but it also said that Trump seemed to be purposefully letting more Ukrainians in because of his demographic preferences.

Work on your reading comprehension. Important parts in bold: There is no indication that Trump’s relationship with Ukraine — which is at the center of his impeachment saga and an alleged quid pro quo involving military aid in exchange for pressure on a domestic political foe — has played a role in the rise in Ukrainian refugees admitted into the United States. But the demographic shift does appear to be the byproduct of Trump administration policies that have restricted access to the U.S. refu*gee program, experts said. Trump has repeatedly stated his desire to block Muslim refugees and to prioritize persecuted Christians from around the world. And his administration has successfully implemented a travel ban and expanded vetting scrutiny for the nationals of several predominantly Muslim nationalities — a program that officials said could expand to bar people from additional countries this year. The impact is clear: Though Syria, Afghanistan, South Sudan, Myanmar and Somalia drive more than two-thirds of the international refu*gee crisis, now numbering more than 26 million according to the United Nations, Ukrainians in 2019 outnumbered Syrian refu*gee arrivals in the United States 8 to 1. They outnumbered Afghans nearly 4 to 1, Sudanese 12 to 1 and Somalis 19 to 1. “This is unprecedented, and it represents a shift away from the refu*gee program’s historical foundation, which is a needs-based, vulnerability-based program,” said Nazanin Ash, vice president of public policy and advocacy for the International Rescue Committee. “There has been a reordering of the nationalities, and not on the basis of need. The administration’s policies lock out many of the most vulnerable refu*gee populations.”

What's unsubstantiated is the part about Trump being the one who fed the "anonymous tip" to the police to arrest Epstein. Trump has never publicly said that. The police have never publicly said that. But the same book author who said Trump gave the tip gave the reason why. Are you saying Michael Wolff couldn't write a book without exposing who was the "anonymous tipper?" Because that makes no sense. Source? So....on the one hand you admit that Trump was into financial dealings with shady people through his connection with Jefferey Epstein, yet on the other hand you deny the statement by the same Michael Wolff that you're relying on to say that Trump had Epstein arrested when Wolff says Epstein was going to expouse Trump as a financial fraud? You didn't think this through did you? Yes. Trump dealt with shady people. I agree. That's not the only way to make money, but that's how he chose to make his money. One of those shady people threatened to expose Trump's shadyness and, according to Michael Wolff, Trump tipped off the authorities. Okay.

Have you read your own article yet? President Donald Trump played a central role in launching the 2005 criminal investigation of Jeffrey Epstein by the Palm Beach County Sheriff’s Office. Michael Wolff, who was close with both men in the early aughts, writes in Fire and Fury that Epstein was outed to authorities soon after he threatened to expose Trump as a financial fraud. It all started in 2004 when Epstein, who was still friends with Trump at the time, invited the real estate scion to see a foreclosed property in the tony enclave that he planned to purchase and then flip.

Okay. So does the large number of Ukranians that Trump let in during his administration warrant his deportation? I mean he didn't marry all of them.

Did you read your own article? According to your article, which sources the book "Fire and Fury: Inside the Trump Whitehouse" by Michael Wolff for the claim that Trump is the one who turned Epstein in, Trump only did it because Epstein was going to expose Trump as a "financial fraud." But...okay let's go with that. Trump still let Epstein come to Mar-A-Lago for two years after the initial arrest. (See: https://www.cnbc.com/2020/08/04/trump-banned-jeffrey-epstein-from-mar-a-lago-for-hitting-on-girl.html) Now maybe you have a source that says Epstein was banned before 2004. If so please share it. And then Trump let's a deal stand where Epstein got off with a slap on the wrist until 2019? Okay.

Fair enough. I am a free trade agnostic. I think it's a great idea in theory but I'm totally against NAFTA, GATT and pretty much every other free trade "deal" that's been proposed in my lifetime. Even when I voted for Bill Clinton, something about NAFTA didn't sit right with me. If I had to do it all over again I would have voted for Ross Perot.

LOL. More Swordsmyth fan fiction. There is zero evidence Trump had Epstein arrested the first time. But this is what we DO know. Epstein and Trump were friends until they fell over a property they both wanted. https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/donald-trump-and-jeffrey-epstein-partied-together-then-an-oceanfront-palm-beach-mansion-came-between-them/2019/07/31/79f1d98c-aca0-11e9-a0c9-6d2d7818f3da_story.html Apparently someone tipped of the police some months after that. In "Trump is a hero" land that must of been Trump making the tip! Only problem is that Epstein was allowed to come party at Mar-a-largo after charges were filed against him and Trump only banned him from coming to Mar-A-lago some 2 years later because Epstein hit on one of the members' daughter. https://www.cnbc.com/2020/08/04/trump-banned-jeffrey-epstein-from-mar-a-lago-for-hitting-on-girl.html

Anyone who disagrees with SS obviously doesn't count as a person and should be deported.

Byllshyt. I posted the actual facts from the actual timeline. You're just making up Trump fan fiction.

LOL. So logic circuits are broken as hell. I talk about what Bill Clinton did wrong, you respond to me with saying "All of a sudden no tarriffs and foreign dumping are bad now?" and somehow you come back and pretend my "reading comprehension doesn't exist" when I point out to your lying butt that I've never argued that no tarriffs and foreign dumping are bad? GTFO with that nonsense! You made a straw man argument. I never said you weren't in favor of tariffs just like I never said I was against them. Edit: And for the record I didn't even initally post in this thread. You copied my attack on Bill Clinton's trade policy with respect to Haiti over to this thread for reasons only you can fathom.

Okay. So you're fine with deporting Melania then? And Trump too I guess since he's for letting (some anyway) foreigners in to this country.

:rolleyes: Whoever had Epstein arrested only did it so they could murder him in jail and call it a suicide. And it was the Miami Herald dredging the case up again in 2018 that led to the arrest. https://apnews.com/article/epstein-maxwell-timeline-b9f15710fabb72e8581c71e94acf513e November 2018: The Miami Herald revisits the handling of Epstein’s case in a series of stories focusing partly on the role of Acosta — who by this point is President Donald Trump’s labor secretary — in arranging his unusual plea deal. The coverage renews public interest in the case. Advertisement July 6, 2019: Epstein is arrested on federal sex trafficking charges after federal prosecutors in New York conclude that they weren’t bound by the terms of the earlier non-prosecution deal. Days later, Acosta resigns as labor secretary amid public outrage over his role in the initial investigation.

You and your right hand don't count as everyone.

Yes. But Melania is from the part of the world that Swordsmyth can't bring himself to specifically condemn even though it's responsible for World War 1, 2 and possibly 3.

:rolleyes: Liar liar pants on fire.

I posted about J.D. Vance's record here: http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?567967-OH-Haitian-migrants-eating-cats&p=7253866&viewfull=1#post7253866 Whitney Webb went into great detail about how he's really deep state. But she also in another video, which I also provided in that same post, covered how Donald Trump implemented Black Rock's "COVID rescue plan" which was written in August 2019, months before WHO declared COVID an emergency. Since she said something negative about Trump you'll probably dismiss what she has to say about J.D. Vance.

:rolleyes: Their poor and malnourished because they've been oppressed by violent morons like the French and the inception. And yes I know the Haitian revolution was bloody. So was the French revolution. That's were the term "Jacobin" that you love to throw around comes from in case you didn't know. Then the French demanded gold reprations from their slaves. That's rich! As for "violent morons" World Wars 1 and 2 were started by Eurpoeans and right now we have Europeans trying to start World War 3. (Russia versus Ukraine). And you still can't bring yourself to attack Urkainians as a group.

You can't bring yourself to say "Expell the 217,000 Ukrainians" or single them out as a group the way you keep singling out the Haitians as a group. (Latest being IQ). No talk about Ukranian mafia connections for example. Your dishonesty and bias is transparent.

Once. Trump really is a great judge of character. Jefferey Epstein was a "terrific guy." Larry Silverstein is a "great guy, a good guy." The Clintons and the Trumps were friends until they (supposedly) were not. I posted this thread thinking that maybe Trump was a 9/11 truth hero only to find he was actually palling it up with the villians. Interesting. But not nearly as interesting as who's eating cats apparently Swordsmyth or Anti Federalist or dannno. And yes, Trump speculating about bombs going off early on is proof positive that he was not in on whatever happened. But considering him going on Alex Jones in 2016 it seems that at some point he must have figured it out. Maybe not back in 2006 when he called Silverstein a "good guy." But then Trump's seen the entire JFK file by now and is mum about that too.

LOL. You've never even specifically said you want to mass deport Ukrainians. Not once.

So.....I want to make sure I understand. You support deporting people like Lindsey Graham who were born in America because....reasons? Even though Graham currently supports Donald Trump? Yes, I know Graham was once a never Trumper, but so was J.D. Vance. Should Trump's current VP pick be deported to? He did marry a foreigner so maybe that's a yes.

:rolleyes: I see that you didn't actually respond to a single point I raised about why Haiti is so poor. And poverty and "IQ" go hand in hand because IQ is related to nutrition and educational opportunities. (See: https://www.economist.com/leaders/2024/07/11/how-to-raise-the-worlds-iq) Also I didn't say anything about who has to be let in to the country. But I'm still waiting on your "Deport the Ukrainians" petition.

I've never said anything Bill Clinton did was "good" and I'm hard pressed to think of anything. Nor have I taken a position that "no tariffs and foreing dumping" are not "bad." And government subsidized "dumping" isn't free trade. If Arkansas rice farmers wanted to actually exchange their rice for Haitian goods without being subsidized by U.S. taxpayers that would have been a win/win. Maybe some Arkansas farmers could have arranged for expert mining operations to go to Haiti. Who knows? I'm surprised you're defending Bill Clinton when even Donald Trump attacked the Clintons over Haiti back in 2016. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/global-opinions/wp/2016/10/12/donald-trump-discovers-haiti/

No. It's the truth. I'm not talking about a GENERL call to deport foreigners. I specific ally asked you aboug deporting the Ukrainians and you didn't respond. So are you ready to now go on record and start a petition to mass deport the over 217,000 Ukranians? If so please post the link. Anti Federalist and I have already said we'll sign it. Put up or shut up. But quit lying.