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I just did a Google search and I'm not finding anything saying that Fatah participated in October 7th. Source please.

:rolleyes: South Africa is doing the same thing that was done to Native Hawaiians in the 1984 case Midkiff v Hawaii Housing Authority. Basically some Native Hawaiian families owned most of the land and it was taken from them using eminent domain to "redistribute" to other people only for the land to ulitmately be bought up by land speculators. Oh sure they got "compensanted" but not nearly what the land was actually worth. And what does Donald Trump think about eminent domain?

So I thought your argument was that if Rand were able to pull it off it would just make things worse or at the very least not any better. But it seems now that your argument is that it's unlikely he'll ever get this passed. If the former than I disagree. If the latter than I can't say you're wrong but I don't think it's bad to at least try.

LOL. You said "noone in the Arab world seriously denounces Hamas." Your statement is provably false. You are the only fool here. Abbas didn't support provoking a wider war with Israel or he would have done it already. I don't give a rats ass if he "feels the slightest sorrow for a dead Jew." That's irrelevant. This isn't about how somebody "feels." It's about who had the ability to prevent October 7th. Abbas didn't have that ability but Bibi Netanyahu did. Israel had the plans for the attack 1 year in advance. And Ron Paul clearly REJECTED your argument that if people other than the Afghanis had operational control of Al Qaeda on 9/11 that meant war with the Afghanis was warranted. He rejected that in November 2001 just months after voting for tha authorization for military force. Ron Paul supported SURGICAL strikes to get Osama Bin Laden, who had already escaped before we invaded, and NOT a general war! If Israel had just attacked Hamas the way it attacked Hezbollah in Lebonon with minimal civilian casualties, the civilized world would not care. Candace Owens brought that point up multiple times when she debated Zionist shills last year. Once more in case you missed it. Ron Paul: The Afghan people did nothing to deserve another war. The Taliban, of course, is closely tied to bin Laden and the al Qaeda, but so are the Pakistanis and the Saudis. Even the United States was a supporter of the Taliban's rise to power. And as recently as August of this year, we talked pipeline politics with them. The recent French publication of bin Laden, ``The Forbidden Truth,'' revealed our most recent effort to

I'm sure if Rand had been on the Supreme Court he would have voted to strike down Chevron Deference. And if this law had been passed sooner the Court wouldn't have NEEDED to strike down Chevron Deference. So Rand is doing exactly what it seems you're saying needs to be done. And Court decisions can be reversed. The left is now kicking itself for not codifying Roe v Wade with federal legislation when Obama was president and they had the house and a 2/3rds majority in the Senate. The republicans don't have that 2/3rds majority so this may be tilting at windmills, but if the Dems are forced to vote to protect bureaucracy that is also a win.

Well..considering that the pistol brace ban didn't not get passed after the ATF rule got struck down by the courts it seems the answer is no. The administrative state clown car drives much faster. https://www.cato.org/cato-handbook-policymakers/cato-handbook-policymakers-9th-edition-2022/reining-administrative-state#restore-popular-accountability-domestic-policymaking Agencies regulate through a combination of the legislative, executive, and judicial functions by issuing rules with the force of law, policing those rules, and adjudicating their enforcement. In 2021, for example, the Biden administration issued 3,257 regulations with the force and effect of law, whereas Congress passed 81 laws during that time. The last available year for comprehensive data about administrative adjudications is 2013, when the five busiest agencies convened 1,351,342 executive branch tribunals; that same year, there were 57,777 total cases (civil and criminal) filed in the U.S. district and appellate courts.

Ron Paul: The Afghan people did nothing to deserve another war. The Taliban, of course, is closely tied to bin Laden and the al Qaeda, but so are the Pakistanis and the Saudis. Even the United States was a supporter of the Taliban's rise to power. How are you enjoying that copium?

You're honesty quotient is low. And I fully explained my position. You either lack the reading comprehenion to understand it or you lack the honesty to admit it. Most people here reject the idea that the war in Afghanistan was somehow justified based on the theory that all the CIA did was merely help the mujahadeen back in the 1980s and then Al Qaeda attacked America because they hate us for our freedom. Even though Ron Paul voted for authorization military action to take out Al Qaeda, as early as November 2001 he said: The Afghan people did nothing to deserve another war. The Taliban, of course, is closely tied to bin Laden and the al Qaeda, but so are the Pakistanis and the Saudis. Even the United States was a supporter of the Taliban's rise to power.

Oh, and your claim that "noone in the Arab world seriously denounces Hamas" is provably false. https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/palestinian-president-blames-hamas-continuing-war-gaza-2024-07-13/ Palestinian president blames Hamas for continuing war in Gaza By Reuters July 13, 20242:47 PM CDTUpdated 7 months ago RAMALLAH, July 13 (Reuters) - Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas said Israel and the United States were responsible for an attack that killed dozens in the Gaza Strip on Saturday, but the Western-backed leader also blamed Hamas for the continuing war in Gaza. His comments signal rising tension between Abbas's Fatah faction and the Islamist Hamas group, which accused the Palestinian president of taking Israel's side.

Have you been drinking with Kamala Harris? Because ^that is some serious word salad.

Ron Paul clearly says ^here that he didn't come out and say everthing he thought for political reasons. Here at 1:30 in Ron Paul says "Building 7 going down...that raises a lot of questions." So contrary to your false assertion he certainly entertained conspiracy theories about 9/11. But that's a straw man argument. I didn't say "Ron Paul believes 9/11 was not done by Al Qaeda" I said "A lot of people here do not believe 9/11 was done by Al Qaeda." So please keep your argument honest. The issue is did Snowball's "a-okay" to your post about 3,000 Americans being killed by Al Qaeda mean he was okay with 3,000 Americans being killed, or was he really saying "Whatever you say dude" to your claim that Al Qaeda killed 3,000 Americans? You and I both know it's most likely the latter and not the former. You asserted the position was the CIA only helped the mujahadeen fight the Soviets. That's different from the CIA helping Al Qaeda carry out 9/11. So now that you're arguing the honest position here is my response. If the CIA helped Al Qaeda, a group of non Afghan terrorists who simply used Afghanistan as a base, carry out 9/11, then does that justify killing a bunch of Afghanis especially considering that we KNEW Osama Bin Laden was no longer in Afghanistan BEFORE we invaded? Osama Bin Laden likely escaped Afghanistan in November 2001. (See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kunduz_airlift) Hamas consists of about 4,000 people. Israel killed about 40,000+ Palestinians. Do the math.

So do you think Congress would have passed the pistol brace ban?

And to break this down for you Swordsmyth: 1) Not everybody here believes Al Qaida had anything to do with 9/11. You've been around enough to know the various conspiracy theories that exist on that. 2) If Al Qaida did do 9/11, the CIA involvement is much more than just that they "promoted the mujahadeen against the Soviets." At the very least the CIA helped the 9/11 terrorists into the U.S. 3) If the CIA had operational control of Al Qaeda throughout the attack, as Benjamen Netanyahu seems to have had operational control over Hamas throughout October 7, then it's not justified to kill Muslims, even in Afghanistan who were not part of Al Qaeda or the Taliban, when we're not actually going after the people really responsibile. (The CIA).

You're either being dishonest over very stupid. The "A-OK" wasn't "A-OK" to 3,000 Americans being killed! It was "A-OK" as in "I know you're full of shyt but I'm not going to argue with you!"

It's taking power back from the bureauracy and requiring a vote by congress. Bureauracts don't have to get re-elected. Congress does. The current standard is that the bureauracrats have to put up their new rules for public comment which is supposed to mean something but really doesn't.

And this is why this forum is still relevent. r3volutionary memory. Good find Anti Federalist and good bump Matt.

:rolleyes: So now you're claiming Ron Paul hates America? Because that's exactly what you're implying. Yes, Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11. And the PLO had nothing to do with October 7th. They HATE Hamas. And yet Israel used October 7th as justification for land confiscation and attacks in the West Bank which is run by the PLO. That's ABSOLUTELY NO DIFFERENT than the U.S. using 9/11 as an excuse to invade Iraq. Oh? You say that Palestinians in the West Bank cheered October 7th? Well there were Iraqis that cheered 9/11 too. But the Iraqi government did not PARTICIAPATE in 9/11 and yet Iraqi civilians suffered from U.S. agression in the aftermath. Edit: And the fact that you conflate people not supporting Trump's plan, which you yourself have had to admit at least twice now that YOU don't support, and people not supporting the Netanyahu government with somehow people hating America means you must think Netanyahu = America. You're exposing yourself.

God's promises are conditional. Solomon broke the covenant so God took 10 of the tribes away from the Davidic line and created the Northern Kingdom known as Israel also known as Samaria. See: https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1%20Kings%2011%3A26-12%3A33&version=NIV Also see: 1 Kings 16:29 In the thirty-eighth year of Asa king of Judah, Ahab son of Omri became king of Israel, and he reigned in Samaria over Israel twenty-two years. And yes, Ahab was one of the most wicked kings Israel ever had. But Elijah was the prophet of Samaria sent to pronounce judgment on Ahab and kill the prophets of Ba'al. Also those who were cut off because of unbelief, according to the God were no longer considered Hebrews or part of the covenant. I gave you chapter and verse explaining how people could be cut off. You're simply ignoring the Bible. More on how God made his covenant conditional:

Let's assume absolute proof comes out that the CIA was behind 9/11. Using your logic the war in Iraq was justified because....reasons. You really didn't think that one through.

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Snowball again.

:rolleyes: You're just going to keep blithely ignoring the fact that Hamas is Netanyahu's false flag army aren't you? ^This.

:rolleyes: God took Northern Israel from the Jews and gave it to the Samaritans. The current people calling themselves Jews aren't Jews. Revelation 2:9 9 I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan. Many of the founders of modern Israel were atheists. See: https://www.haaretz.com/opinion/2017-01-21/ty-article/.premium/how-israel-went-from-atheist-zionism-to-jewish-state/0000017f-e918-dc91-a17f-fd9d87a00000 If you actually read your Bible you would know that atheists have no business claiming God's promises.