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It's officially been a year now since the attack in Israel happened that Israel had the plans for 1 year in advance. So is this the 1 year anniversary or the 2 year anniversary?

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to TheTexan again. And for the record, the black people who recently killed two innocent people in Birmingham Alabama and wounded 17 others while killing two thugs who had gotten away with murder are universally despised by every black person I know. If they had only killed their fellow thugs I wouldn't be as bothered. Call me heartless if you will.

And....here's another take. Anti Federalist, to answer an earlier question, I want to like Candace but she does come with some baggage that still needs to be unpacked.

Certainly. Anti Federalist brought up the latest white on white school shooting and, without anyboby saying anything about the race of the shooter, immediately deflected by bringing up black on black gang violence. Clear enough for you?

Note that I didn't specifically call out any ethnicity. While the Nazis did single out the Jews, they expressly considered anyone who didn't fit their definition of German as not a citizen. And that's kind of odd considering one can become Jewish by conversion.

I didn't even mention race. Ice Cube didn't either. But for the record even though these people are white, most white people don't consider them white. You're smart enough to figure it out.

Is reading comprehension an issue for you? I specifically talked about people bringing up black gang violence as a deflection when a story comes out about a white kid killing white people at a school. I didn't say you did it. I said it happened. I was merely pointing out someone else's deflection. Again, reading is fundamental. If you inject yourself into the middle of a conversation between two other people you owe it to yourself to back and learn the context.

I wonder how much of the Nazi 25 point plan a lot of people on the left and the right would agree with? https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/nazi-party-platform The Nazi Party Platform was a 25-point program for the creation of a Nazi state and society. Hitler presented the program at the Hofbräuhaus Beerhall in Munich, Germany on February 24, 1920. The 25 points combined extreme nationalism, racial antisemitism, and socialist concepts with German outrage over the Versailles peace settlement following their defeat in World War I. The program called for German rejection of the Versailles Treaty and for the inclusion of all Germans (especially those living in Austria, Czechoslovakia, and Poland) into a Greater German state. The Nazis also publicly declared their intention to segregate Jews from "Aryan" German society and to abrogate the political, legal, and civil rights of Jews in Germany. The 25 points also included several measures designed to appeal to workers, the largest voting bloc in the Weimar Republic. These included calls for profit-sharing in large industries, the nationalization of trusts, free education, and an increase in pension payments.

All part of the same club though.

Deflection is simply making excuses by another method. Again, who's funding it?

Nope. They were created to undermine the PLO.

Okay. And yet when some white kid shoots up a school, certain folks coddle themselves with "But the black thugs are killing each other in the hood." As you say, not enough people call that out.

Anti Federalist mentioned the "poet" was funded by art philanthorpic foundation. The same is true of the "piss Christ" photo.

This thread has shown the issue with national socialism and valli6 is a prime example. The Nazis loved welfare too and blamed people of other ethnicities for their failed state. "Housing prices are going up." Well duh! When that happens when white people move into black neighborhoods it's called gentrification. Everybody is all pro free market until it's their perceived tribe on the short end of the stick. Then you have people with MAGA hats on complaining about not getting enough welfare. Pathetic for real. JD Vance was a least honest a little bit when he said that nobody was talking about Springfield Ohio until the cat story became a thing because there was little reason to do so! This wasn't like the story of the Venezuelan gangs doing raids on apartments with long guns fully visible or MS-13 killing people with machettes. Besides the admittedly bad driving and the fake pet eating stories there was really nothing to complain about the Haitians that couldn't be said about the Ukranians or any other group that comes in a competes for jobs, housing etc.

That's nice. And this white man.... made this piece of "art." Both were funded and "promoted" ( TheTexan and Swordsmyth) by the same people. Imagine that?

Ice Cube didn't take the money and isn't part of the problem. But if you want to go collectivist then you bear the sins of all of the white porn stars out there. Regardless, as usual, you missed the point. TheTexan was talked about who promotes a culture of violence. The actor / singer / dancer is not the promoter. Hell, it's in the job title "promoter."

A mass shooting in Urkaine is not the same as a mass shooting in Utah. I care more about one than the other. What you're doing is called deflection. Something bad happens in a white neighhood, rather than addressing it you go and find something bad happening in some other neighhood in order to cope. It's called "copium." J. "Deep State" Vance at least addressed school shootings by saying "Let's make the schools more secure." Your response? "Some black homeless people got killed in a mass shooting too." You offer no solutions to "your people" other than "Other groups have it worse." Sad actually. But back to the real issue. Yes Magic Johnson asked black men to go vote for Kamala. Weren't you even the least bit curious as to why he singled out black men instead of saying "black people?" And he said Trump didn't keep his promises to black people in his first term. What promises to black people? All I remember Trump saying was "What do you have to lose?" Of course his "58% black youth unemployment" statistic was inflated because it included high school student.

:rolleyes: Ice Cube "The people who one the labels own the prisons." That's who "promotes the prisons." The same people own the porn industry that's full of white people.

I don't think Tesla owners are worried about where to charge their vehicles.

So you have to make somebody else the enemy? Weird. It's funny that opioid deaths peaked under Trump in 2018 and dropped under Biden in 2023. I guess your plan only works when there is a Democrat in the Whitehouse? :confused: And most people understand that the people who do the mass shootings at the places their care about (where their kids go to school) are different than the people who do the mass shootings at the places where they do not care about. But you can't understand that for some odd reason. Edit: But the real truth is that mass shootings at schools are actually rare events that get far more coverage than they deserve based on their frequency. https://www.edweek.org/leadership/school-shootings-this-year-how-many-and-where/2023/01

:rolleyes: So? White people make up 68.8% of the Portland according to your link and 61.4% nationally according to the 2020 census. Blacks make up 12.4 percent of the U.S. population and 5.6 percent of the Portland population. Blacks are under-represented in Portland and super underrepresented in Oregon and whites are over-represented both places. So why the high white misery index there?

Here's my counter point. You spend a hell of a lot more time trying to paint as negative of a picture about black people than you do actually advocating for white people in need. Look in the damn mirror. You want something done for the homeless white people in Oregan? Start advocating for the homeless white people in Oregon. Usually what you trying to pass off as "advocating for white people" is not advocating for white people but instead attacking people of other races. That's your problem. If Larry Bird said "There are a lot of white people caught up in the opioid crisis, just like there were black people strung out on crack before, therefore we need to do something about drug treatment and not act like it's just a black problem" nobody at all would have a problem with that. Even if he left out any mention of black people and just talked about all of the white people on drugs who need help, nobody would have a problem with that. But you want to pretend your shyt don't stink, act like your problem is black people, and then complain that it's not "respectable" to talk about the problems of white people. Why was it left up to me to point out that white homeless people are the ones living like they are in the third world and not the hard working, not on drugs, saving their money and fixing up dilapidated homes in Springfield Ohio Haitians? And guess what? Joe BIden deported more Haitians than Trump! https://quixote.org/biden-has-deported-nearly-as-many-haitians-in-his-first-year-as-the-last-three-presidents-combined Biden has expelled nearly as many Haitians in 12 months (20,200+) as were deported during the previous 20 years (22,000-23,000)*** under three different presidents. Indeed, Biden’s administration has likely expelled far more: In addition to these official removal numbers, another estimated 8,000 Haitians were expelled back into Mexico in September of 2021, voluntarily according to DHS Secretary Mayorkas, but in circumstances that make that characterization suspect. And no, they didn't get let back in. Compare the treatment for the Haitians with the treatment for the Ukrainians with Biden's "United For Ukraine" program. https://www.uscis.gov/ukraine

Ah. So because you can get ChatGPT to make up an answer for you that makes it justified? Ummm...okay. ChatGPT is biased as fvck when it comes to Israel. Here's proof. Remember this thread? http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?508713-Syrian-army-says-it-shot-down-Israeli-jet-that-was-aiding-ISIS-terrorists&p=6436153&viewfull=1#post6436153 It has an article about Israel giving medical treatment to Syrian rebels. As you should know even the "free Syrian Army" has at times directly worked with ISIS to overthrow Assad. Here's the actual paragraphs from the article. Syrian in Israeli hospital: ‘Most fighters know they will get good care here’ IDF mum on how the steady flow of wounded from the Syria civil war enter Israel, looking for treatment. By REUTERS

When exactly is Syria attack Israel? Oh yeah...they didn't.

*sigh* It's funny (sad) that white people can do thousands of posts about the ills of the black community, then get bothered when some black person says "Someone should actually do something about the ills of the black community" and then white people don't see their own tone deafness. A better response to Magic Johnson is "Bruh man...you're mistaking Barack Obama for Donald Trump."

This is insane when you consider this is a 100% elective war. Putin would end the war tomorrow if he was offered a decent deal. He never would have even invaded if Ukraine had actually honored the Minsk agreement and the U.S. (Kamala Harris) hadn't talked smack about NATO expansion. I agree with Anti Federalist that at least on this one issue Donald Trump is head and shoulders over Kamala Harris.

You know your own article supports Snowball's contention that Israel has never attacked Iran's nucler sites right? Attacking the missile defense system protecting a nuclear site, while a serious excalation, isn't the same as attacking the site itself. For a comparison see: https://nsarchive.gwu.edu/briefing-book/iraq-nuclear-vault/2021-06-07/osirak-israels-strike-iraqs-nuclear-reactor-40-years-later As far as mutual defense, don't forget that Russia mainly entered they Syrian conflict to thwart the U.S. effort to topple Assad.

I kind of responded to this indirectly, but it's worth reiterating. You are 100% correct! Self hatred is destroying black people and white people alike. The mass shooting in Birmingham is an example of self hatred. Two of them men killed had litterally gotten away with (alleged) murder. So.....a gang of people shoot up an entire crowd killing not only them but to innocent people and wounding 17 others. That's a form of self hatred to. One is internalized, killing yourself slowly with guns, and the other is externalized, killing innocents in your own community because "spray and pray" is easier to pull off then just a single shot assassination. I may have already mentioned this, but the Promise Keepers had the solution. I also respect the Oath Keepers despite how they let themselves get conned on January 6th. They stood up to protect black businesses in Ferguson when nobody else would. I respect the Proud Boys philosphy of "Western chavanism" even though I believe it's flawed as western civilization was built off of multiple other civilizations and there are parts of ancient Greece and Rome that aren't worth repeating. (Men routinely raping boys as a part of Spartan culture for example). I'm probably one of the few people that think the Patriot Front may be more misguided than anything. Take out their "Whites are the only Americans" and "only whites can join" philosophy and you've got a group that brings families together to go camping, do sporting events, and dress up in an, albiet goofy uniform, and march in unison. The founder, who was an Eagle Scout, was probably triggered by the whole "Let's make scouting non-binary" trend and decided to go as far right as he could without actually advocating physical violence. I guess my point is there is certainly room for a Christian morals based mass movement that was geared towards lifting everybody up instead of tearing each other down. Like...the Promise Keepers.

Okay. I know you're making a generalization here. But Tim Walz wasn't the governor of Springfield Ohio. Keep your eye on the ball. You're so close to the truth. Replace the word "abortion" with the word "NAFTA" and you'll understand why there is room in Springfield for 20,000 Hatian people (not bioweapons). Springfield didn't lose 20,000 people because of late term abortion. Springfield lost 20,000 people because the factories closed down and there were no jobs so people naturally went somewhere else for work. Now let's look at that "bioweapon" claim. It's already been established that white meth addicts in Portland are the ones living like they are in Port au Prince, not the actual not on drugs, and most like not cat eating, Haitians in Springfield Ohio. And I get it. Something should be done to actually help poor white people and poor black people get on their feet. I disagree with PAF and Invisible Man on this point. I consider all the downtrodden "my people." We are not each other's enemy. We are being conned by Kamala Harris and Donald Trump and Barack Obama and Bill Clinton and Dick Cheney and "fill-in-the-blank" to believe we are each other's enemy. Ephesians 6:12 King James Version 12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places. Until you understand ^that you will not truly be able to help "your people." I'm not Hillary Clinton. I don't think you're part of the "deplorables." I don't think the white meth heads in Portland are deplorable. I don't think the hardworking Haitians in Springfield Ohio are deplorable. The main beef of the white Trump supporting welfare recipients in Springfield is "How are these Haitians getting $3,000 on their EBT cards?" Because they aren't using their EBT cards and stacking their money up because they are allowed to collect EBT and work at the same time. My dad own rental houses. One of the renters is behind now because his wife's disability check got cut off because she was found to be working. (I didn't even know she was getting one). I get it. The federal government is not the best instrument for helping the poor. But it is a problem when it helps poor people around the world in a way that it doesn't help people right here in the U.S. What's the solution? I've talked about Tangelo Park Florida until I'm blue in the face but nobody seems to care. Private people could make a difference. I wonder how many people in Portland living in their RVs would be willing to relocate to that town in the video I posted where the sawmill is closing for lack of labor because the housing prices have outpaced the salaries at the mill? Nobody thought "we could set aside a few acres of land as an RV park with solar sewage hookups and clean water and maybe some solar panels and have a labor force?" And I'm just throwing that idea out there. You are correct in that the downtrodden have to believe in themselves again. The Promise Keeper movement was all about that but sadly it died out for reasons I don't know.