Weston White
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Usual yes but not unprecedented. Now at the risk of invoking the spirit of SS, I concede Trump would have to be concerned that pardoning the January 6th protesters might give credence to the idea that he incited them to riot in the first place.

Good question. I don't know. But Ford pardoned Nixon without Nixon being convicted.

I LOL every time I see Kwame Kilpatrick's name on that list.

Trump was still president until Biden was sworn in. Trump's last pardon was done on January 20th, 2021. https://www.justice.gov/pardon/pardons-granted-president-donald-j-trump-2017-2021

Yeah. Swordsmyth is a one trick pony. I bet next he'll say the reason Trump said in 2000 that he supported an assault weapons ban is that he knew one day he wouldb be president and subject to impeachment.

:rolleyes: Alex Jones has always been anti Hitler and being anti Hitler doesn't make one "woke." ^This

Byllshyt. You didn't say "impeachment in general." You said "One of the phony impeachments." There were two of them. And he was paying off Stormy Daniels before he even got elected president. Dude was being sexually blackmailed and you know it. Everybody knows that.

John 9:4 I must work the works of him that sent me, while it is day: the night cometh, when no man can work. Somewhere in between modern pacifism in the face of the rising time of perversion and Westboro Baptist fanaticism is a happy medium. Somewhere between this: And this:

Don't you think that preaching the gospel is more effective for dealing with children being abused by drag queens than voting for someone who brought a gay pride flag into the GOP convention? I'm not a fan of Westboro Baptist but at least they seemed to be in the right ballpark. (Preaching on the street though I think their methods were ineffective). And how does arguing whether or not someone you know very little about who, from what we can tell, killed nobody but himself is somehow like a mass murderer like Jim Jones stopping nuclear war or a man made bio plague? And, from his manifesto reading, this person who set himself on fire was just as concerned about the man made bio plague as you are. I'm confused. :confused:

Wow! Let's Go Brandon! (I mean that both ways).

You're a believer right? What would the King have you do? Matthew 24:14 And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come Matthew 28:18-19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen. I said this past Sabbath at an overwhelmingly black SDA church during Bible study that we should not be concerned about who's going to be president. A young elder, who I know hates Trump, was like "You better be concerned!" Without getting into the politics of it I said "That's just a lack of faith! As my mother (who he knew well before she died) used to say 'The most high rules in the kingdom of men. He puts up and he takes down whom he sees fit. (Daniel 4:7). Donald Trump became president because God wanted him to be president. Biden became president because God wanted him to be president. Obama became president because God wanted him to be president. And if Trump becomes president again it's because God wants him to be president." We as Christians walk around in so much fear. Faith is the opposite of fear. And "Perfect love casts out all fear." 1 John 4:18. I'm not afraid what man can do to me. Psalms 118:6. This man who self immolated (and I don't agree with that as method to spread your message) was on target when he talked about how much we as human beings are being pushed into being fearful. And through this fear the powers that be control us. Wear a mask. Don't wear a mask. Fourteen days to stop the spread. The Russians are going to get is. (Funny that was a GOP talking point and now the Democrats have owned it.) Be afraid of the Chicoms. But don't pay attention to all of the other countries in the world doing the exact same gain of function research. Lock down. Shut down. Pipe down or you'll be de-platformed.

He relied on other peoples moles. My understanding is the moles were cogs in the wheels of the machinery and not the billionaires themselves. Ask Donald Trump. This is what he wrote in 2000. ""I generally oppose gun control, but I support the ban on assault weapons and I support a slightly longer waiting period to purchase a gun," I don't care that he owns them. Lots of democrats own the very guns they want to ban.

Luke 6:22 Blessed are ye, when men shall hate you, and when they shall separate you from their company, and shall reproach you, and cast out your name as evil, for the Son of man's sake.

:rolleyes: All Bilderberg attendees were deemed evil by Alex Jones...until Peter Thiel started attending Bilderberg. All people who pushed for an assault weapons ban were deemed evil...until Donald Trump pushed for an assault weapons ban....twice. The bvllshyt is when people ingratiate themselves into the liberty movement and are then able to get away WITHOUT EVEN BEING QUESTIONED with doing things that others automatically get panned for doing.

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Anti Globalist again

*SIGH* I'm not trying to get you not to vote for Trump. I think Biden is (slightly) worse than Trump. More importantly I think they have to try harder with Trump than with Biden to do certain things like pushing for WW 3 with Russia. I felt that McCain was (slightly) worse than Obama because Obama was at least pretending to be for not starting any new wars (he did anyway) whereas McCain was singing "Bomb bomb Iran." But whatever. Misread me all you want. It's okay.

That's not even kind of the same. :rolleyes: Jones only attacked Nixon, Watergate and other Republican people and issues in that sermon, which was much more religious than political. This was talking about the cryptocurrency Ponzi scheme (again, crypto could be good or bad), and the COVID scamdemic and how both Trump and Biden are involved in it.

Okay. Let me rephrase my question then. What possible advantage is there to killing Trump? Seriously what? Or to put it another way "Trump has been super duper effective at stopping the globalists from....?" Enacting gun control? Locking down the country? Doing gain of function research? You know that was paused under Obama and restarted under Trump right? You had thousands of people showing up leaderless for a partially peaceful / partially violent "rally" on January 6th based on evidence of a stolen election that was so flimsy that Tucker Carlson publicly refused to sign off on it. I don't see those people passively sending "strongly worded tweets" if, against current law, an official nominee of the GOP was denied secret service protection just because of a conviction that didn't allow him to run. The assassination of Kennedy made sense. He pulled the rug out of the bay of pigs invasion. He refused to go along with Operation Northwoods. There's also the threat to the Federal Reserve via the silver certificates executive order. What did Trump do that comes close to that?

It's a gimmick anyway. Some states already award electoral votes by congressional district. So there's no reason they can't do that right now anyway. Why doesn't California do this? They'd have to give Orange County to the Republican candidate.

Meh. Sounds like alt-right fan fiction. Donald Trump would be far more dangerous as a martyr than as a president. And even if Trump gets convicted on all 4 indictments on the 85 remaining counts (6 were thrown out) not a single charge is for insurrection. Only an insurrection conviction would disqualify Trump for running for president. So they're not even trying to stop him. You could argue that they don't have a basis for an insurrection charge...but I don't think they have a sufficient basis for the other charges either. Finally, Trump isn't the threat. Trump's supporters are the threat. Trump "Take the guns and then have due process. Bumpfire stock ban. Assault weapons ban." Trump supporters "You'll take my guns from my cold dead hands." Trump "Keep taking your boosters." Trump supporters "Booo!" Part of the reason Trump wasn't indicted insurrection is because he wasn't actually leading anything. What do you think people like that would do if Trump was murdered?

For the record I've never attacked you for your "lesser of two evils" votes but I've just disagreed with it. That said, please tell me what you disagree with in this man's manifesto. I will put what I think is the most important parts in bold. Forget for a second his self label and just read what he wrote. My name is Max Azzarello, and I am an investigative researcher who has set himself on fire outside of the Trump trial in Manhattan. This extreme act of protest is to draw attention to an urgent and important discovery: We are victims of a totalitarian con, and our own government (along with many of their allies) is about to hit us with an apocalyptic fascist world coup. These claims sound like fantastical conspiracy theory, but they are not. They are proof of conspiracy. If you investigate this mountain of research, you will prove them too. If you learn a great deal about Ponzi schemes, you will discover that our life is a lie. If you follow this story and the links below, you will discover the rotten truth of ‘post-truth America’. You will learn the scariest and stupidest story in world history. And you will realize that we are all in a desperate state of emergency that requires your action.

Oddly enough, a significant portion of the Ukrainian army are white nationalists. And when Zelinsky spoke before the Canadian parliament they gave a standing ovation to a WW2 Ukrainian war "hero" who turned out to be a war criminal still wanted by Poland. The only good white nationalists are the ones agreeing with the PTB at the moment I suppose. Sadly a lot of really uninformed people. Some of them are decent. Most of them are simply clueless. The one good thing about the Israel / Gaza conflict is that people on both sides are starting to wake up a little bit. The Trump trial in Atlanta, and the disgusting acts of the adulterous home wrecker Fani Willis, is cause some people to wake up as well. The black community is divided on whether Fani going after Trump absolves her of the crime of stealing another woman's husband and thrusting their child into a single parent home as well as stealing Federal grant money meant to help curb inner city gang violence. A black pastor privately told me he was disgusted by her going to black churches in Atlanta for support after her adulterous affair became public. I suppose I look at everything from the position of what will wake somebody somewhere up to what's really going on.

Jim Jones coerced others into committing suicide at gunpoint so that's kind of different. I'm not endorsing this person's methods (although Buddhist monks did it in Vietnam not in support of Marxism but is support of their freedom to practice their religion, and IRA prisoners did hunger strikes for similar reasons). My concern is that most people are stuck in this "lesser of two evils" paradigm. I've got more in common with the black socialists that Biden is trying to prosecute for speaking against funding the Ukrainian war than I do with Lindsey Graham. You're worried about a coming coup? The coup already happened. The factions are just window dressing.

I was just about to post this. Anti Federalist, "leftist" or not, this dude was not wrong about Trump and Biden both doing a fascist coup. Except it already happened. Trump gave the vaccine companies immunity for their poison and Biden mandated it. Trump did EVERTHING Fauci wanted when it came to the lockdowns! Imagine what would have happened if a President Hillary Clinton had tried to do what Trump got away with? There were armed protests in Michigan over Whitmere's lockdowns. Had Hillary been president they would have happened nationwide. Trump got away with it by being republican.

Move the goalposts? That's what you have done! You said Trump did the swamp appointments to avoid the first impeachment! Then after I pointed out that the swap appointments happened BEFORE the first impeachment, you moved the goalpost to "Russiagate." The burden is on YOU to show evidence of Republican Senators buying into Russiagate if you're going to use that argument!

Stormy Daniels wasn't diseased. Porn stars get regularly checked. Regardless, Trump was being sexually blackmailed by Stormy Daniels (and possibly others) prior to Russiagate being a thing. There a 130,000 reasons to believe that. Some yes or no questions. 1) Was Epstein most likely murdered? Yes or no? 2) Was William Barr connected to Epstein? Yes or no? 3) Did William Barr cover up Epstein's murder? Yes or no?

That's not what Jesus said. Matthew 23:37-39 37 “O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, the one who kills the prophets and stones those who are sent to her! How often I wanted to gather your children together, as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, but you were not willing! 38 See! Your house is left to you desolate; 39 for I say to you, you shall see Me no more till you say, ‘Blessed is He who comes in the name of the Lord!’ ” And God divided Israel from Judea back in the old testament 1 Kings 11:30-36

Psalm 34:14 Depart from evil, and do good; seek peace, and pursue it.