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    09-19-2020, 06:33 AM
    neo normals
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    09-16-2020, 11:59 AM
    Points well taken. Have to work on some other things but will update this space with some thoughts (out of rep).
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    09-15-2020, 12:49 PM
    But the US Government has been a means, a hammer that doesn't swing itself. Granting, of course, that without a hammer the hand that swings would be capable of a great deal less mischief. Then, when this hammer is broken, it will merely pick up another. Revolution (making no claims as to its imminence nor likelihood) is, none-the-less, particularly violent in Democratic states--when there is a group, waning in power/influence, that none-the-less has ample means AND is threatened with extirpation. We're being played. Rather, there is a game being played on top of us. These are not shots fired at you, btw, just observations or whatever.
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    09-14-2020, 01:15 PM
    I want to see Massie on Dore.
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    08-29-2020, 04:04 PM
    Fair enough. I'm still pissed at the lack of D.C. security. I'm shocked that I seem to be the only one saying this (other than Tucker freaking Carlson). But whatever. You know, people on the left feel exactly the same about this: Which lead to this.
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    08-29-2020, 03:56 PM
    Oh go take one of those nukes that you say Trump used on American soil, shove it up your arse and set it off. You are the toxic and dishonest one here. Plenty of people knew that the Unite The Right rally was going to have Nazis there. And at one point you claimed people didn't even know they were at the "Unite the Right Rally" when that was the title of it! You lie so much you lose track of it! But let's just say you're right (your lying again and you aren't) but let's say that you are. Most sane people, once the found out that the Nazis were the ones who secured the permit, would pack up their shyt and go home. The people that stayed made the choice to stay and continue even after there was a clear Nazi association. Certainly that's their choice. If standing up for a freaking statute is more important than not being associated with Nazis, then that's a choice they had to make and then live with it. By the same token for those who want to stand up against police brutality, real or perceived, make that choice even after knowing there are Marxists (and in some cases Nazis) in the crowd or down the street, or in another town, then they've made their choice. There is no difference in the choice. Hell, someone put up a video here of someone protesting BLM by himself in some racist town in Arkansas. Some would argue "Shouldn't he make sure to eject all of the Marxists in Portland Oregon?" SMFH.
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    08-29-2020, 03:48 PM
    Is he really? I mean if there really was a group of invisible protesters pushing through a wall of invisible cops than certainly posting a live video of that possibly helped because it gave people reason to scream bloody murder over the internet on RPF which is the sole reason the visible cops on bicycles were able to come to the rescue. His saying he saved Rand's life is as plausible as anything else being peddled.
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    08-29-2020, 03:46 PM
    I already told you. I was looking for your tranny hooker. I kept the good ones for myself. But I'll ask eleganz if he's seen you in any gay porn videos as that's his bailiwick.
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    08-29-2020, 03:44 PM
    I haven't back peddled at all. You've just made shyt up. I've noticed you have a tendency to do that. Again, there weren't people pushing through a "wall of police." That's not a "grammar error." That a description of what happened that just wasn't factual. Facts do matter.
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    08-29-2020, 03:30 PM
    I know this is a rhetorical question, but of course they won't. His death doesn't fit anybody's narrative. For the left it doesn't fit the narrative that police brutality is something that uniquely happens to white people. For the right it doesn't fit the narrative that the only reason people die at the hands of the police is because they bring it on themselves. Anti Federalist and I talk about this all the time. When Rush Limbaugh was on the Breakfast Club he (Rush) mentioned that if what happened to George Floyd happened to a white person you wouldn't have heard about it. And that's true. But why doesn't he talk about it? Another rhetorical question.
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    08-29-2020, 10:39 AM
    I am so happy to say I voted for Chuck Baldwin in 2008!
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    08-29-2020, 10:34 AM
    Hmmm....so somebody at the RNC did "say her name" after all. I'll have to check out Scott's speech. One thing that disappointed me is that Rand didn't bring up criminal justice reform even though he was instrumental in bringing it about. I get it. That's not the image that the GOP has been trying to put forward after Tucker Carlson shamed them back into being the "law and order party."
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    08-29-2020, 10:04 AM
    Yep. I noticed that in the charging document even before I saw this video. Interesting point you're making about charging him as an adult. I didn't think of that. You'd make a good lawyer! As for the crowd dynamics there are three things to consider. 1) What the crowd has done. 2) What the crowd intends to do and 3) What the crowd might do. Possibility #1 is self explanatory. Possibilities 2 and 3 get conflated. It's important to be as accurate as possible on #1 to have the best understanding of #s 2 and 3.
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    08-29-2020, 09:47 AM
    Thanks for posting this. The video that I've seen, and I saw the night it happened, starts with the Pauls going up to the police and before the crowd had materialized. I think the part you're talking about didn't happen before that video but happened during the video that Fox is showing (and most people have seen) which is when they are making their way to the hotel. That's when things got chaotic. Right. One thing I've said consistently in this entire discussion is that I don't think Rand's perception matched the reality. I think he's had a chance to watch the video that I saw the first night because he's no longer saying there was a "wall of cops surrounding up and people were trying to push through." That's just not what happened. And facts do matter. There were three cops. Rand also got the ratio of reinforcements better. (No there weren't a thousand reinforcements, but there were more reinforcements that showed up.) And I don't blame her for being shaken. The walk to the hotel most have been scary. I'm sure the whole thing was scary. There have been times in my life when I was scared and looked back and realized my perception didn't match the reality.
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    08-29-2020, 08:03 AM
    I agree. Thankfully I don't live in a swing state. I wouldn't want that burden. Kamala Harris motto? "When they go low, I get high. Then I prosecute them for getting high."
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    08-29-2020, 08:00 AM
    I didn't say there wasn't a possibility. You just made that up. I said quite the opposite. When Martin Luther King Jr. was stabbed he was at a book signing. So you can feel like everything is okay and there is a possibility that something might go wrong. And you can feel like you are in danger when you really are not. If the crowd had wanted to attack Rand Paul they could have. There was no "wall of cops" around Rand preventing that. The crowd wasn't trying to "push past the cops" to get to Rand prior to the reinforcements arrived. Rand was mistaken in saying that. He's not infallible. Quit treating him like he is. It's funny that you can't actually attack me on facts. There is nothing I "made up." Everything that I say I have actual reference for. You're operating out of emotion...and that is sad.
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    08-29-2020, 06:40 AM
    LOL. Okay. You said you did count. Now you said you didn't. So what is important? How about the fact that there were only three cops and there were no cops behind, to the left or the right of Rand Paul? How about the fact that, as bad as it was, the only assault was from one person throwing one plastic cup? How about the fact that, until they started moving to the hotel, nobody in the crowd was pushing at the cops trying to get to Rand. (They didn't need to push past the cops at that point because there were no cops to the right or to the left). Yes. Terrible situation. The mayor of D.C. should be ashamed for not providing better security. And I don't know why the Secret Service didn't just walk a senator and his entourage two blocks in the first place instead of telling them "get on a bus and go to Trump towers." There's all sorts of things that should have happened differently. But thankfully one thing did not happen. Rand and his entourage were not physically attacked. They could have been. Nothing was stopping the crowd from physically attacking them except the fact that the crowd, for whatever reason, did not want to attack. Rand might have felt that way. Other people can feel that way. But our feelings aren't always right.
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    08-29-2020, 06:20 AM
    I already watched the video. I'm sure he felt that way. Perception doesn't equal reality. He couldn't see that there was a wall of protesters behind him (not a wall of cops) and that the three police officers in front of him would not have been able to do a thing to stop the protesters behind him if they really wanted to harm him and the 3 women with him. I'm not sure why this is so hard for people to understand. Anti Federalist please explain this one to me. I will accept that Kelly heard things that weren't picked up on video. (They likely weren't shouted but she might have perceived them that way.) But there was no "wall of cops." Not on the right side, left side or rear. When I watched the video the first time I kept waiting in fear and trepidation for a physical attack from behind (where no cops were) that never happened. I know I can't be the only one who watched the video looking for that and didn't see it. There was one person from behind them that threw a cup at that. Awful and disrespectful. If the cops had enough manpower with him that was cause for him to be arrested. But that just further goes to prove my point that if the crowd in general wanted to harm them they could have. All they had to do was get some rocks or glass bottles, circle behind, and start throwing them. That did not happen. It didn't happen because the crowd did not want that to happen. What I don't here anybody talking about, including Rand, is why was security so piss poor for a U.S. Senator? Why was he taking an Uber back to his hotel after being on a bus? The secret service told him to get on the bus because it wasn't safe to walk to his hotel. Why didn't they just give him a ride in one of their armored limos? Why didn't the DC police just bring in some freaking Bearcats and clear a path for all dignitaries leaving the RNC at the Whitehouse to get back to their hotels? There is no logical reason why a U.S. senator was walking with no security on the streets of D.C. at night during such a volatile time. None whatsoever. But the crowd had full opportunity to hurt Rand and his entourage if they wanted to. The didn't want to. They were "armed" with cell phone and cameras. It was disrespectful and scary for the crowd to surround the Pauls like that. I know what happened to Robert Kennedy. But there was no Sirhan Sirhan in that crowd. There was no determined assassin. If there had been, three cops in front with no cops on the side or behind would have been able to stop that. What happened to Rand is what the left falsely claimed to the native American "elder" with the Covington Catholic high school boys. It was disrespectful, but if there had been a real intent of harm there would have been harm.
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    08-29-2020, 05:55 AM
    The Unite The Right side planned the rally and got the permit. Those who wanted not to be associated with that shouldn't have shown up on that day. And LOL for you now trying to in effect call me a Nazi. So Alex Jones promotes the "Unite The Right Rally" because the Nazis were promoting it? And that makes me a Nazi? How about that makes Alex Jones a Nazi? (Your words, not mine). I'm sure there were some idiots that didn't realize that there were organizers of the Unite The Right Rally who were Nazis. And there are people protesting police brutality who aren't Marxists. People on the right want to say "They should expel all the Marxists. That there are Marxists among them means they're all guilty." And that's just what the left did with Charlottesville.
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    08-29-2020, 05:54 AM
    I'm sure she felt that way. On Danke's video I heard one F-bomb shouted. There were probably people saying all sorts of things that weren't shouted loud enough to hear. Delusional beyond belief is your thinking that 3 cops can hold back 30, 40 or 120 people in a violent mob who REALLY want to hurt somebody. There was no "wall of cops" surrounding Rand Paul until they were actually headed to the hotel. There just wasn't. NOBODY that is attacking me is actually doing it from the facts. NOBODY. It's all "Rand Paul said this" and "Kelly Paul said that." I love them two. I have actual met Rand on 3 occasions. I introduced him at an event before he was famous. He probably didn't realize there were people behind him. Or maybe he thought there was a wall of cops behind him. But the video clearly shows there were none. There should have been a wall of cops behind him. He should have had a police escort for his Uber. Or better yet, a DC police car should have given him a ride from the Whitehouse the two blocks to his hotel. THAT IS WHAT YOU SHOULD BE PISSED ABOUT! But you are too stuck on defending a narrative that just isn't true.
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    08-29-2020, 05:47 AM
    The tranny hooker I got for you already did that. But thanks for the offering.
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    08-29-2020, 05:47 AM
    Did you count up to 120? How many did you count? Saying "over 40" isn't a count so...that's garbage. Violent mob? There was nothing between Rand Paul and the "violent mob" on three sides of him. There were just 3 cops in front of them. Did you count the number of cops? Apparently not. If the "violent mob" wanted to hurt Rand Paul they would have. They weren't, at that point, "pushing against the cops trying to get to Rand Paul." That's just not true. He might have perceived it to be true, but it wasn't. Again, I gave a time frame by time frame break down. You want to dispute that? Do your own breakdown. (Like giving an actual count instead of saying garbage like it was "over 40". Also I didn't give an exact count. I quoted a DONALD TRUMP SUPPORTER WHO WAS THERE who estimated it was 30 to 40. It certainly wasn't 120. And I'm not talking about at the end when they were headed to the hotel. I'm talking about early on, before they started moving, when there were, count them, 1, 2, 3 cops. Can you count to 3?
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    08-29-2020, 05:41 AM
    Very good non-emotional breakdown.
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    08-28-2020, 05:00 PM
    Danke already said I was there in the hoodie so that joke is played. Oh. The violent murderous protesters that had every opportunity to shank Rand as there were no police behind him or on either side and just three police officers in front of him? Those protesters? Just because one right-wing nutjob ran over someone in Charlottesville doesn't mean they represent everyone on the right. Same here.
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    08-28-2020, 04:07 PM
    LOL. You don't know how to do @mentions? You're funny! And if you want a play by play of the facts regardless of what you want them to be, I am certainly here to help with that as much as I can. The Donald Trump supporter that was there and was video taping everything said there were 30 to 40 people. Rand claimed there were about 120. But Rand didn't have a camera on a selfie stick so he didn't have as good of a vantage point to see what was actually going on.
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    08-28-2020, 04:04 PM
    LOL at the black man having trouble getting into his own hotel at 1:35. That shirt is more my style than a hoodie by the way. And thank you for another viewing angle. The sidewalk behind them is completely bare. At 0:20 you can see someone just walking by on it like nothing at all is going on. He's not blocked by the police nor is he even looking in the direction of Rand. At 0:14 the lady in Rand's entourage the red dress is nodding in agreement with something somebody is saying. At 0:33 I could hear one f-bomb by somebody on a bullhorn. He's not in the video and it's impossible to tell how close he is to the action. At 1:04 you see the same guy that you find out at 1:35 is staying at the hotel in a confrontation with a police officer and yelling (and possibly cussing) at the same officer. Closing seconds, people who were possibly maced calling for medics.
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    08-28-2020, 03:51 PM
    What actually happened. Play by play. If you want to dispute that do your own timeline. https://www.pscp.tv/w/1jMJgXPeYLYxL Look again at 1:50. You can see a wide angle. At this point there are no police behind Rand Paul or to his right side. I can't see to his left side because that's were the camera is. Jack Murphy, the person filming, who is a Trump supporter, is clear that at that point there are no police other than the two or three in front of Rand Paul. And nobody is grabbing Rand Paul or pushing the police. You can see people talking to the police. You can see people talking to two of the women with Rand Paul. At 2:30 one of the protesters does throw a cup that hits one of the women. That's the only thing I see thrown but that was disrespectful and uncalled for. At 2:58 you can again see one of the protesters talking to one of the police officers. At 3:50, Mr. Murphy points his camera down the street in front of Rand and says "A whole shytload of cops are coming right now. They are staging at 14th and 10th and (inaudible)." During this time, all the way up to 4:30, the same protester is talking to one of the cops. At 4:45 that protester is gone and a woman is chanting/singing to that same cop "Breona Taylor." At 5:00 in you can see well again the street to the right of Rand (mostly empty after you get past the protester), and the sidewalk behind Rand (passable once you get past the protesters and there is a building behind that.) At 5:30 someone starts a "Say her name" chant. At 5:46, Mr. Murphy counts and says "Looks like they have 1, 2, 3 police officers. Rand Paul, his wife and two friends. Surrounded by like...30 or 40 people. There's like about 100 police to the south. Oh. Here they come." Once the bicycle cops moved in, Rand, his entourage and the three officers that were with him started moving forward. Note this doesn't jive with what Rand said. He claimed he was surrounded by 120 or so people prior to them trying to move forward. He also said they tried to move forward because they couldn't wait for the cops. But that isn't true either. According to Jack Murphy there were 100 police pushing back a crowd of 30 to 40 people. At no point was the crowd pushing back the police except for that one moment when the bike copy pushed a protester with his bike and that protester pushed back. That's the only time you see Rand pushed. (The cop that was pushed basically fell into him). I will give Rand the benefit of the doubt based on the stress and the confusion of the moment. But the selective edit played on Fox and Friends doesn't come close to showing what actually happened. I know I will get hate from some here just for telling the truth. That's okay.
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    08-28-2020, 03:50 PM
    I actually watched the video. I asked you for the one from your made up facts that don't agree with what Rand said or what's on either video.
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    08-28-2020, 03:49 PM
    Last time you claimed I was "raging out" I turned out to be right. Not only is Trump not an anti-pedo crusader but he bought a beauty pageant so he could be a "peeping tom" (SwordSmyth's words, not mine) on girls as young as 15. This time Fox only posted a selective cut of the video. CNN and Fox do the same thing. CSPAN is the comparison you're really looking for.
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