Tab Content
  • bv3's Avatar
    04-10-2019, 07:22 PM
    Again, not reading. I stated quite clearly: a tax is an inappropriate way to achieve this.
    31 replies | 477 view(s)
  • bv3's Avatar
    04-10-2019, 03:46 PM
    but you do say that that a human (Stalin, in this case) ceases to be a private individual when it enters the state apparatus, and I understand why you say that, I am saying that is a misapprehension. You are saying that the word private traditionally denotes a person NOT in the service of the state, and that said denotation is definitive of the word so I must be inventing a new word entirely, which I am not. And so far as the permanence of language, when taken to an extreme: oooga booga, *grunt*. Anyways, well derailed. Free markets and capitalism are not the same thing, and Stalin remains a capitalist. Just like Marx was, and King Louis XIV, Frederick the Great, Ivan the Terrible, the first chief of the first village--the difference being that in free-market capitalism EVERYONE (ostensibly) has equal access to the market. Free markets are to capitalism what isonomy is to the law. I doubt you and I will make any further progress, or have made any.
    72 replies | 1040 view(s)
  • bv3's Avatar
    04-10-2019, 03:02 PM
    I agree with you wrt communication. I just do not believe that I'm cooking up anything, its a bit insulting that you belabor that--but thats okay. Perhaps you are missing my point: A human being doesn't cease being exactly what it is--an individual--when it joins/takes over a club, group, society, government, whatever.
    72 replies | 1040 view(s)
  • bv3's Avatar
    04-10-2019, 02:48 PM
    If something acts other than as a private individual, can that thing be a human? I can't imagine one that does. That a private individual insinuates himself into the State apparatus does not mean he is no longer a private individual. He may be a functionary, and his actions may be in line with that function, but he remains a private individual.
    72 replies | 1040 view(s)
  • bv3's Avatar
    04-10-2019, 02:46 PM
    Yes, but Governments are entities--and one that commits a crime doesn't discharge the accompanying grievance simply because time has passed.
    31 replies | 477 view(s)
  • bv3's Avatar
    04-10-2019, 02:38 PM
    I agree, but if your G G G Grandfather owned a firm that owed a debt, and you inherited that firm, that debt would still be outstanding. You wouldn't owe anything, but the firm still would.
    31 replies | 477 view(s)
  • bv3's Avatar
    04-10-2019, 02:27 PM
    Ten four, a position in government replaces a person's humanity. And I suppose groups, like the State, take action beyond the discrete actions of individual members. Nothing I've said, or supported, goes beyond either definition.
    72 replies | 1040 view(s)
  • bv3's Avatar
    04-10-2019, 02:24 PM
    I focus more on the legitimacy of the debt than its age.
    31 replies | 477 view(s)
  • bv3's Avatar
    04-10-2019, 02:17 PM
    What human is anything other than a private individual, first? I am not saying capitalism is bad, that would be like saying oxygen is bad. Its necessary, and no matter what name you give something, marxism, national socialism, monarchy, feudalism, whatever--it includes capitalism. But you missed that cause TLDR, or something.
    72 replies | 1040 view(s)
  • bv3's Avatar
    04-10-2019, 02:08 PM
    Oh. So Stalin wasn't a human? Was he sometimes a private individual and sometimes a state functionary--depending on his state of mind or location? Maybe a magic line outside the Kremlin that, when he crossed it, transformed him into a state functionary? I'd not argue that Stalin didn't use the State to enforce his will, but that his will was his own private will.
    72 replies | 1040 view(s)
  • bv3's Avatar
    04-10-2019, 01:56 PM
    So he didn't own the nation, he just controlled it entirely. Ownership is what exactly? "an economic and political system in which a country's trade and industry are controlled by private owners for profit, rather than by the state." By function of his position in the State, did Stalin cease to be a private individual?
    72 replies | 1040 view(s)
  • bv3's Avatar
    04-10-2019, 01:52 PM
    Yes, thats true, but the grievance still exists. So if someone kidnaps me, and forces me to work, justice would served by simply ending my condition of servitude? Once freed, I would have no legitimate grievance against my captor? If someone stole all of my fathers wealth, and he died, I shouldn't have the right to assume that debt? After all, the actual victim is dead. I only lost my inheritance which was stolen from someone else. Yet, in the common law, people sue on behalf of deceased people all the time.
    31 replies | 477 view(s)
  • bv3's Avatar
    04-10-2019, 01:40 PM
    Okay, so then give me the definition of capitalism. Or should I just assume you mean what Webster means? Did Stalin not own the Russian nation in the 30's? Was Stalin an individual? A private individual?
    72 replies | 1040 view(s)
  • bv3's Avatar
    04-10-2019, 01:36 PM
    Why don't you incorporate the rest of what I said regarding the issue into your chastisement? Capitalism is a general condition, Free-Markets are not. They are not the same thing. If they were, why the redundancy of language? Why do we have a term 'free market' and a term 'capitalism'? I mean, historic usage and all. I stand by the statement, Stalin was a capitalist. He privately owned a nation, and treated its people like capital that he traded for industrial capacity.,
    72 replies | 1040 view(s)
  • bv3's Avatar
    04-10-2019, 01:24 PM
    Thats the box, and I believe JohnWK is attempting to think outside it. See my earlier post for more on this.
    72 replies | 1040 view(s)
  • bv3's Avatar
    04-10-2019, 01:24 PM
    "and edgy spelling of socialism"
    72 replies | 1040 view(s)
  • bv3's Avatar
    04-10-2019, 01:19 PM
    This isn't going to make me popular here: It is a fact that many black Americans live through an American tragedy. Just look at the statistics. Imagine growing up in an incredibly violent place, with maybe one father for every hundred. The drug war, Jim Crowe, this list goes on and on, and trust me: I'm not on some BLM shit here--its just obvious to me. I say that asking for reparations is a legitimate grievance that can be brought against the US government--that codified chattel slavery, after all, and enforced it violently. However, and this is where we can win: that money that should've gone towards the satisfaction of this legitimate grievance was blown up overseas. Period. The money you were owed was spent blowing up weddings and fucking up American military personnel. None of this is to say that I support a white tax for reparation, as I am vehemently against such notions for obvious reasons--ethnic guilt, blood guilt, inherited guilt I consider to be concepts less obviously toxic than chattel slavery but in the same class--since such a condition is ascribed at birth. But petitioning the government for a redress of grievance is constitutionally protected, and in this case--or so I believe--entirely appropriate. Too bad the money was blown up overseas, and shipped to other countries as aid, gay frogs, and what are the medical benefits of drinking piss etc et al. ISRAEL-BILLIONS OF DOLLARS OF FUCKING AID. No, Americans need that dough--and I would say Black Americans first. They have a legitimate grievance, Israel does not. Not one more dollar for Israel until our domestic brothers and sisters are made whole. The Native's, too. The only question: How to redress that grievance without creating another (as a white tax of ANY sort would do)?
    31 replies | 477 view(s)
  • bv3's Avatar
    04-10-2019, 11:24 AM
    Realpolitik, and good on you.
    26 replies | 667 view(s)
  • bv3's Avatar
    04-10-2019, 11:18 AM
    Yes, because if you invent something and don't tell anyone about it, then the prior art exception wouldn't apply. However, if you were the CDC and published your discovery, or even started using it--then prior art WOULD apply. But that isn't what we are talking about, you said, essentially, that anyone could patent anything that isn't already patented--and that is patently false. So moving the goal post is probably a good idea for you. And the processes we're talking about do indeed include the general public. Hear, hear, Donnay. Would getcha back if I could.
    30 replies | 479 view(s)
  • bv3's Avatar
    04-09-2019, 10:53 PM
    "He that breaks a thing to find out what it is has left the path to wisdom."
    1 replies | 84 view(s)
  • bv3's Avatar
    04-09-2019, 07:17 PM
    But did you like my portmanteau?! Fair point, otherwise. But if two firms in a free market agreed to work together to 1.keep others from entering their market and/or 2.utilize a majority share of the market to 'fix' prices. Lets take Twifacoogle (I'm in a portmanteau mood), and assume for the moment that absent .gov investment and favorable treatment they managed to corner their respective slices of that market anyways, and Twifacoogle used direct bribes instead of government intervention to protect their Oligopoly (bribing ISPs), how could that hold be shattered without imposing restrictions on the free market, and thus dropping the former, and most significant, part of the concept? Now, this example might be invalid because absent government administration, intervention, and protection could such oligopolies form in the first place?
    72 replies | 1040 view(s)
  • bv3's Avatar
    04-09-2019, 06:37 PM
    He might not attract the attention of said enforcer, successfully make it to the other side of the street, and make a mockery of the sacred muh road--which is, after all, the foundation of our legal system. Thank State! Hey cap, good to see you. what happened to the lone coyote? -Bolil
    34 replies | 593 view(s)
  • bv3's Avatar
    04-09-2019, 04:25 PM
    At first I wanted to say that adding 'competition' to the end of 'Free market' is pleonastic. But then I remembered that I've turned into the worst kind of writer in existence, the pedantic ass. Why, good lord, did I study the Womanities(tm) in two thousand teens. At least I had a front row seat. But it isn't necessarily so, since people that lived in a true-free market would be free to not compete. Absent Government interdiction of discretionary funds, such people could probably not compete in relative comfort. 22 trillion dollars.
    72 replies | 1040 view(s)
  • bv3's Avatar
    04-09-2019, 04:03 PM
    Yeah, or they could've just offered a 50 billion dollar bounty for his capture, alive (so he could stand trial) on 9/13/01 (I think it took a day for theme to tell us who dun it). And not invaded, brutalized, and destabilized an entire region at the cost of untold numbers of lives and well over 50 billion in treasure. With the stipulation that footage of the capture must also be saved, and the total amount of the bounty received reduced by the amount necessary to make whole any innocents harmed during the capture.
    3 replies | 392 view(s)
  • bv3's Avatar
    04-09-2019, 03:52 PM
    Prior art. SwordSmyth is correct.
    30 replies | 479 view(s)
  • bv3's Avatar
    04-09-2019, 03:35 PM
    I've heard the current year Chinese system described as State-Capitalism. However, I think such a name is redundant: Capital is liquid means-of-production, without it (I've been told, production ceases) if the state has its hands on the nozzle that dispenses capital then I do not see how this is anything other than an edgy spelling of socialism. WRT your ending question, you and I have just experienced synchronicity, I was going to post a very similar question a few weeks back. I say that Capitalism and Free-Markets are not the same thing. Capitalism indicating what is to be allocated, free-markets indicating how that what​ is to be allocated. No sleep, so sorry for poor quality on this one. Another thought: Capitalism isn't a choice. Whatever that what is. Slave labor, even, could be a form of capital--but where slave labor is a free-market isn't. Every society that has ever been, or will ever be, is 'capitalistic' differences arises in culturally accepted forms of capital. Slave-labor, digibucks (FRNs), gold, silver, tobacco, spice, salt, copper, et al. As a neophyte, lets take a look at Stalin (may he burn in hell, or at least be terribly uncomfortable in nothingness). He was a capitalist in the worst sense of the word, literally terror-starving his people--into submission yes--but also to rapidly industrialize the USSR's military production capabilities. At least that is how I've always understood it, essentially trading the lives of millions of people for the material (industry) and sinew (capital) of war. He used one form of capital (food stuffs, and human lives) to obtain other forms of capital. Could not food be considered capital?
    72 replies | 1040 view(s)
  • bv3's Avatar
    04-09-2019, 12:47 PM
    No, Matt, the 2nd Amendment recognizes "constitutional carry" as an inalienable right--further bills are redundant. Any place that inhibits the right of the people, the individual person, to keep and bear arms is in violation of the law. There isn't another way to put it.
    26 replies | 667 view(s)
  • bv3's Avatar
    04-09-2019, 12:43 PM
    bv3 replied to a thread Buttigieg in U.S. Political News
    I watched maybe 5 seconds of the video before posting. Strange indeed. Stranger things just happened on the house floor. I can't believe what I just watched. Yikes.
    62 replies | 1292 view(s)
  • bv3's Avatar
    04-09-2019, 08:30 AM
    bv3 replied to a thread Buttigieg in U.S. Political News
    nah, and I find your colonization of pronunciation disturbing. But-eye-geeg, I says.
    62 replies | 1292 view(s)
  • bv3's Avatar
    04-08-2019, 05:37 PM
    Even if a belief in God isn't abandoned, that organized religion offered a conduit to the maybe-deity was probably the least important of its facets. What it gave people was a common community, it was like a kind of social glue. Whether it was toxic or not I make no claims, but the new brand glue is most definitely toxic. Also, and this isn't news here, organized religion didn't die it just morphed into the State. Personally, I hope there is a God and this against my own belief.
    18 replies | 457 view(s)
More Activity
About bv3

Basic Information

Profile Sidebar Configuration

Profile Sidebar Configuration

Activist Reputation (Self-Rated):
1
Activist Reputation (Staff Rated):
1

Statistics


Total Posts
Total Posts
222
Posts Per Day
1.17
General Information
Last Activity
04-14-2019 07:03 PM
Join Date
10-14-2018
Referrals
0
No results to display...
No results to display...
Page 1 of 8 123 ... LastLast

04-10-2019



Page 1 of 8 123 ... LastLast