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    05-26-2020, 08:25 AM
    It isn't controversial, its pathetic. Scared the mean symbol will jump off the gravestone and restart the third Reich? Awwwww.
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    05-22-2020, 09:40 PM
    If you are interested in Propaganda then I have a book for you: https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwj7gJn2h8npAhVHAp0JHdqcC9oQFjABegQIARAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fratical.org%2Fratville%2FAoS%2FPropaganda-JE-Vintage1973.pdf&usg=AOvVaw39rgptTt_evTgd9bR5AjxJ Or just google Jaques Ellul Propaganda and click on the ratical books link for a free PDF. You are correct that propaganda is not limited to the government sector; however, whether all messages are mere advertising is debatable. Propaganda is much more than advertising. Successful advertising campaigns, however, do apply the science of propaganda. Never mind Althusser. His work on ideology is interesting and I think accurate but if you are interested in the science of propaganda read Ellul, if and when you have time, its a dense book but...well, you'll see. Besides, Ellul's work both contains and exceeds Althusser.
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    05-21-2020, 08:29 PM
    I do not think controlling all communications is necessary, not directly--in-any-case. The use of active measures, combining physical domination and ideological domination to varying extents within a spectacle, makes the proof of dominance in a single, or set of, instances sufficient to control the behavior of others in similar circumstances. The fact that you could share, let's say, "Unpopular opinion A," and likely not suffer any consequences is of little consolation when you've seen other people subjected to any number of unpleasant consequences for sharing that same opinion. As you your caveat, yes! But I think that the "loss" isn't necessary. If the physical exertion of power is ineffective at addressing, and curtailing, the ideological nature of the transgression then I suppose it could be a loss. If the exertion is effective at protecting the integrity of a given ideological...aspect...for lack of a better term, or minimizing the damage done to the same, then what could have been a loss becomes a win, of sorts, in that not only has the ideology been maintained but any future would-be transgressors have been given a "prophylactic" lesson. Loosely consider the Civil Rights movement. Sicking dogs on people, etc. These are instances wherein physical force is exerted by an ideology in extremis, but failed to protect the integrity of that peculiar ideological aspect (segregation) and actually maximized the damage done to it. There, the attempt at physical domination was a loss (to the prevailing ideological constellation). Tienanmen square, at least temporarily (as you say, nothing lasts--and true) is a successful attempt at physical domination because it, evidently, protected some/the ideological aspect(s) that is/are totalitarianism. Its really an interesting thing to talk about, to me, because even the perception of these events is colored by propaganda (the complex of tailored information delivery that is, itself, the foundation of ideology). Obviously, what happened in Tienanmen Square is as bad as any single event during the so-called Civil Rights movement. Maybe one of our more educated members could share what they know about it. But since it isn't expedient in the American context to truly explore that event (to 'propagate' or 'inculcate' it), it is cursorily known by many and understood by almost none (including myself). I mean, take genocide--a system of violence designed not only to destroy a people physically, but to extirpate their ideological aspects as well--some are well known, and others not. I had to stumble across the Gukurahundi in a history of Rhodesia. Not even my highly educated and even handed history professor knew of it. There are several genocides and ethnic cleansings currently ongoing in the very age of, "never again."
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    05-21-2020, 11:46 AM
    So, you are opening the door to the conversation re. the "freedom of the mind"? The internet is what is accessible on it. It has a material existence, nebulous perhaps, but I understand that the data available is stored somewhere (on a server, for instance). This alone makes the internet subject to physical domination, which may be atavistic but will never be archaic. The era of the internet has modified the reach of physical domination, extending it--rather than challenging it. I think that the experience of your average Chinese bears this out. I would even hazard to say that ideological domination is the foundation of physical domination, the latter being exerted only in instance when the former fails.
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    05-19-2020, 01:50 PM
    indeed. Interesting, too, how that 2016 join date goes on and on about the ingenuity of long time members.
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    05-19-2020, 06:20 AM
    when he's right, he's right.
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    05-19-2020, 03:41 AM
    Whats wrong with a guy jogging by the train tracks? Joggin' parka an' everything. Jokes aside, what does this mean or how does it have anything to do with the recent events? Based upon my knowledge that this incident is mostly, though perhaps not solely, intended to provoke racial animosity to the maximum degree possible--especially among theire bread and butter blacks and whites, I hereby predict that the McMichaels will have charges dropped, be found not guilty, otherwise acquitted, or plea down. The latter may be the most fruitful as it will outrage both white bread and black bread. That this may be correct is irrelevant.
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    05-16-2020, 09:51 AM
    The soviet government perfected the process a two decades earlier than the "German Government" thought to try. But otherwise, carry on.
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    05-16-2020, 04:54 AM
    because the economy was just scuttled and we are waiting for Lenin's ghost.
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    05-15-2020, 10:34 PM
    like they recommend folks pay income tax?
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    05-15-2020, 10:32 PM
    bv3 replied to a thread The Bill of Safety in U.S. Political News
    I think her point was people who do not get vaccinated become vectors for the spread of preventable disease, which spread generates political capital for programs of forced inoculation. It isn't quite the same thing.
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    05-13-2020, 12:03 AM
    okay, but intent is a matter of fact. ie for juries to determine. as is reasonable suspicion. whereas if they can prove the stuff in my post then they will have charges dismissed as a matter of law
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    05-12-2020, 09:08 PM
    Intent is a difficult thing to prove. Particularly when a Jury is going to be predisposed to not find intent.
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    05-12-2020, 02:05 PM
    The purpose of this case, and others like it--media spectacles--is to provoke racial tensions. It has been a resounding success.
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    05-12-2020, 01:41 PM
    https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=all&geo=US&q=race%20war Its May AKA Racial antagonism month. Since 2004 the media has deliberately inflamed racial tensions every May. If the McMichaels had immediate knowledge that Arbery was a felon in flight, they were within their rights to pursue and detain him. Its really that simple. The available evidence indicates this is a possibility. However, the archetypal value of this story with regards to stoking racial tensions is too great. I don't know much, but I do know the McMichaels didn't hunt Arbery down in cold blood, and execute him. Because, even the deliberately limited video evidence that has been released SHOWS this.
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    05-11-2020, 05:43 PM
    did this guy read my posts?
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    05-11-2020, 05:40 PM
    pointing a gun can be considered an act of aggression. Displaying a gun is innocuous in a society with the right to bear arms.
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    05-11-2020, 05:38 PM
    wait what? They confessed to an unlawful arrest?! If so, that does it. Georgia's self defense laws do not apply when one initiates the situation.
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    05-10-2020, 10:18 AM
    That's as may be, but if Arbery didn't commit a felony and McMaster didn't have immediate knowledge of that crime--well, its a public road and all that.
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    05-10-2020, 10:17 AM
    What I find strange, is that Arbery either never had any social media or that his social media presence was scrubbed before they started explaining, "why the murderers..." That arouses my suspicions, to be honest. The heavy racial push behind this confirms some of them. I don't have any social media, except for this, but I think people like me are exceptions rather than rules.
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    05-10-2020, 09:42 AM
    This case is going to turn on whether the McMichaels had the right to initiate a citizens arrest, which in turn will require immediate knowledge on the part of McMichael's that Arbery had, in fact, committed a felony. Burglary is a felony in Georgia, so if he stole tools or materials of any kind from the house he was exploring then he did commit a felony. At least one appeal I've read regarding citizen arrests in Georgia seems to say that immediate knowledge can pass through a third party. IE Neighbor A witnesses Mr. Arbery engaging in a felony and immediately notifies McMichael. If the right to make a citizens arrest stands, then the slaying becomes self defense. Because it gives the McMichaels standing, if you will, to restrain Arbery--reasonably. In that context Arbery's going for McMichael the younger's shotgun escalates what is reasonable straight to lethal force. If it doesn't stand, then it becomes some variant of murder. Hayes v. State, 405 SE 2d 660 - Ga: Supreme Court 1991 This seems to be the crux: Was a felony committed by Arbery? if no, some variant of manslaughter/if yes continue Was the felony committed in the immediate knowledge of McMichaels? if no, some variant of manslaughter/if yes continue
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    05-10-2020, 08:40 AM
    Okay, what do we know? We know that the people that are going to get these vaccines have already been picked through the no-bid system that prevails. We also know that those people are likely the most mercenary people in the country, even in the world. With these two facts in hands I am betting three units of H2O in five years that any vaccine developed for COVID-19 will require repeat inoculations. But if you had a chip that could synthesize the vaccine with your own amino acids, and could be instructed as to what "template" was expected to be prevalent in a given COVID season---just think how convenient that would be!
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    05-10-2020, 08:31 AM
    it was supposed to resound, but has fallen mostly flat.
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    05-10-2020, 04:55 AM
    Katie Antithesis Hopkins? I wonder if she volunteered for her place in the dialectic, or fills it naturally. She doesn't mention "who." She talks about the narrative, who writes the narrative? T'is a question wrapped in a parentheses, wrapped in a parentheses.
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    05-10-2020, 04:41 AM
    There was that other thing that was falling off, and instead of addressing the issues it was found to be easier to simply replace the defective products. Something about Birthrates, demographic crisis, etc... I expect the same will happen here. I'd bet that for every job and American won't go back to, there are 5000 people who would gladly work it--and at a lower rate.
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    05-10-2020, 04:37 AM
    bv3 replied to a thread The Sickness Gulag in U.S. Political News
    He missed the contact tracing parallel (unreliable tests etc). The lockdown isn't the gulag, its the revolution that creates the conditions that leads to gulag.
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    05-10-2020, 04:35 AM
    I believe Minneapolis has also stopped zoning for single family housing. https://tcf.org/content/report/minneapolis-ended-single-family-zoning/?agreed=1. Racism, again, being the reason.
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    05-10-2020, 03:22 AM
    public? Oh, the moob. You see, the mob is gearing up to go to war among themselves over pigment. We don't fool the mob, they are our fools.
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