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  • juleswin's Avatar
    Today, 03:42 PM
    I don't know where u live but I can own property in the part of the US, yes you are made to pay property taxes but your lease/rent cannot be revoked if you pay the property tax. That is really different from rent/leasing land. I think the US has been attacking the Venezuelan people long before their economy collapsed. I don't have proof so please don't ask me to produce one, its a hunch. I thought my the term "real economy" that was what you meant. And yea, maybe they could have started producing enough food to feed their economy but maybe its taking them a while to get there and maybe sanctions hurt with that effort. Nobody could tell what could have happened if the all powerful US weren't trying to undermine the country. Btw, Hitler was a very good city planner who brought Germany out of a deep deep hyperinflation recession. So don't tell me a city planner couldn't have worked things out.
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    Today, 03:01 PM
    True, also a quick way to find out who really owns most of the guns. Psst, its still the govt Thanks for the correction, but my point is still valid, they are protected for free from outside aggression and hence need no standing army. Socialist leaning Venezuela is not so lucky.
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    Today, 02:14 PM
    Yea yea yea, I have heard all the hype about how free Honk Kong is, this is the same country where the govt owns all land and everyone is forced to rent or lease their land upon which every business is built from the govt. Imagine living in a place where you cannot own land. And the reason why I brought up Hong Kong is not for us to argue how free it is but to show that economies dominated by one sector business can still prosper. You said their problem was because their economy was highly dependent on other to thrive. Well, the same can be said for Hong Kong and Saudi Arabia. Both countries can be easily devastated by a well placed sanction on either country. Essentially, Venezuela could be Hong Kong tomorrow and would still be suffering if the US decides to attack. Also people tend to forget that Hong Kong enjoys military protection from US which enables then to survive without a military and concentrate more on their economy. On the other hand, Venezuela has to have a military and sleep with one eye open all the time. This is because the US and its hostile American captured neighbor govt will not pass on the opportunity to take it over. Well, they tried that method in a more socialist Libya and that day never came. The people loved Gaddafi even with the sanctions on the country, the US got so tired of waiting for the starving Libyans to kill Gaddafi that they used their Wahhabi henchmen to do the job.
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  • juleswin's Avatar
    Today, 01:05 PM
    You could say the same thing about other successful economies. Saudi Arabia, Honk Kong etc etc. Do you know that about 90% of GDP produced by the Hong Kong economy comes from the service sector? of that 90% service economy, Insurance/finance, public sector services and shipping dominates the sector. A smart man might ask, can Hong Kong not produce any other product outside the service industry? I dunno, maybe it is something they are just really good at. I think the US minding its own business would be good for just about every economy even socialist leaning ones.
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    Today, 12:39 PM
    It does make me feel better. The problem is that sometimes zippy, the count or CPuD sounds like Jules which to some people make em seem like I align with those people all the time. Well sometimes I do but for the most part, I am my own man. I am open minded, have no sacred cows, follows no cult of personalities and I try to question everything (even the stuff James Corbertt) and that is in essence my motto
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    Today, 12:24 PM
    Ofc, nothing is cancelled forever. It could still go on but as for now, it is cancelled. That is the point Btw, I am hurt that you put me in the same category as Zippy and thecount. I thought I was better than that. I am going to cry now.
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  • juleswin's Avatar
    Today, 12:19 PM
    I cannot prove it but I know these people, their history, their intentions for non compliant countries. I know its not to stop security personals fighting the opposition fighters they fund from depositing their money and/or running to the US(a completely suicidal for anyone in the Venezuelan govt to do) but unfortunately, I cannot prove it at this point in time. The same way I knew that the non fly zone resolution(explicitly written to say that it was not about regime change) signed by the US with help from the UN was not to provide relieve the humanitarian suffering in Libya but was then used to further a regime change campaign. Yes, I do not have the proof just like in the case of Libya so in a way, you win this round. Touche.
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    Today, 12:08 PM
    If you actually knew anything about WWII, you would have known that women actually fought in some theatres and they were mainly snipers. In the teaser, we can see that the lady had a sniper rifle in her hands and you ask about front lines. I think at this point, it seems like people are just crying wolf anytime a female or minority is placed as one of the main characters in a video game.
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  • Thor's Avatar
    Today, 11:08 AM
    they are blue muslim's - blue is a color. LOL
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  • juleswin's Avatar
    Today, 10:34 AM
    But but but Rand said the news that NK was threatening to cancel the meeting was over read :rolleyes: This is what happens to the brain when some who was once a respectable politician joins a cult of personality and starts kissing ass. A news that anyone with 2 brain cells to rub together knew was true, Rand comes around to tell us it is exaggerated.
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    Today, 10:00 AM
    "Absolutely" a blue Muslim wave coming, says Michigan congressional candidate Rashida Tlaib https://www.cbsnews.com/news/rashida-tlaib-blue-muslim-wave-michigan-13-congresional-district/ Rashida Tlaib, who is running for the Congress in the 13th district in Michigan, said Wednesday she "absolutely" sees a "blue Muslim wave" in the 2018 midterm elections. Tlaib is one of more than 90 Muslim Americans, many of whom are Democrats, running for public office in 2018, a trend The Washington Post dubbed the "blue Muslim wave." In an interview with CBSN's Reena Ninan on "Red & Blue," Tlaib called the Muslim Americans running for office "incredibly talented, inspirational neighbors of ours who happen to be Muslim."
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  • juleswin's Avatar
    Today, 09:33 AM
    It is no secret that sanctions are put in place to collectively punish the general populous, cause unrest and make said more susceptible to overthrow. Maybe the people sanctioned had shares in private companies, were board members in private companies or had some partnership with private companies. Those companies would also bear the brunt of the sanctions too. Also, you can see that some of those people worked in national security. Those guys could be the ones fighting the American supported opposition trying to sabotage the country economically. This is speculation on my part but I make my guess knowing the history of the US destabilizing enemy countries and I see that history continuing today.
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    Yesterday, 09:06 PM
    Your googling skills is failing you. This is just the official measure on the books. God know what the CIA and other intel groups have cooked up against that poor country.
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    Yesterday, 08:53 PM
    Thanks for the assist. I know these Hitler exterminations quotes are usually very dubious and always some hearsay sources. The man made so many recorded public speech and yet he never said anything about exterminating the jews, he wrote a manifesto and again said nothing. Also, we were told that the operation was so secretive that many Germans did not even know about it. Yet, some people want us to also believe that he was public and open about it. Give me a break.
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    Yesterday, 08:45 PM
    Jesus H Christ Angeltc, you mean the people who have been piling up sanction against your people to the point your people are starving now come bearing gifts and you see no problem accepting it? I mean, they could lift the sanctions and you can buy the food your god damn self. But no, they want to help your starving people inside your country "wink" "wink". The same people are so humanitarian that they are helping the Saudis slaughter Yemenis as we speak. But put that aside, sacrifice, perseverance these are some of the qualities a nation has to lean on in these trying times. If you think a country who stood by while 500k Iraqi children starved care about some starving refugees then you must be the most naive person I have ever met. The pittance in charity now will be used to dominate the country and steal the country's future. There is no guarantee that Venezuela even with the sacrifice they are going through would resist the advances of the US, but if they can ride this stormy weather, generations of Venezuelans would thank this generation for their sacrifice. This is one part where libertarianism ideology would fail a people cos if Venezuela were filled with libertarians like Angeltac, they would have given in at the first offer of a cheese burger. It's about their needs now not about the future and well being of the nation.
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  • juleswin's Avatar
    Yesterday, 08:28 PM
    Venezuela just like most economies is a mixed economy and that was the point he was trying to make as opposed to the idiots who go around calling it a socialist paradise. Found this article from fox news. http://www.foxnews.com/world/2010/07/18/socialism-private-sector-dominates-venezuelan-economy-despite-chavez-crusade.html Don't you think its a bit weird that a socialist country has 66% + of their economy still controlled by private sector? Sorry, I don't have some scholar analysis for you to read. All the stuff I get is from wikipedia, articles and videos from youtube.
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    Yesterday, 08:16 PM
    You do know the money is not free money. The money most likely would be used to buy influence with revolutionary groups n the country and they would be used to take down the govt. And the return of investment would be massive when that actually come through.
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  • juleswin's Avatar
    Yesterday, 06:16 PM
    Give them money? they just borrow and print it even if you didn't give them a penny. The system is self sustaining now.
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    Yesterday, 05:04 PM
    https://www.wsj.com/articles/pence-says-u-s-to-provide-16-million-in-aid-to-venezuelan-refugees-1523666151 Smart man, humanitarian aid, bombs and wars have the same effect on a nation when donated by the imperialist US. Reject it all and you might just have the opportunity to fight another day.
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    Yesterday, 04:18 PM
    I would add that the more open and free market a country is, the more likely it is to be taken over by bigger, organized cunning foreign agents. So I was mistaken to say that the result would be the same regardless of what economic system a country has. One of James Corbett finest works. Very relevant to this discussion
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    Yesterday, 03:40 PM
    Continue reading https://www.yahoo.com/news/china-rebuffs-u-concerns-ties-venezuela-075008760.html But I am sure the US has 0% to do with their economic woes. 0% I tell ya
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  • juleswin's Avatar
    Yesterday, 03:06 PM
    So he was president from 1999 to 2013 and things started to go bad more than 3/4 way into his rule. I think he did quite well resisting the advances of the west. On this point, you are right and I was wrong.
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    Yesterday, 02:49 PM
    My theory is that the US started meddling once Chavez started defying their orders. I am not sure when that exactly started but Chavez realized it and acted accordingly to avoid sabotage of the economy by US. The Venezuelan economy did not collapse during Chavez rule. Lets see, Canada, Switzerland, Columbia, France, Saudi Arabia, Singapore, Hong Kong are client/compliant/captured states while Venezuela, Russia, Syria, North Korea, Sudan are not. Common sense says that you don't treat your friends the same way you treat your enemies. This stiff ain't rocket science.
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    Yesterday, 02:32 PM
    Lots of countries confiscate private properties all the time. Saudi Arabia did it a few years back and nothing bad happened to their economy. The problem comes when that confiscation is followed by international sanctions. The difference between Saudi Arabia and Zimbabwe is that one was sanctioned to death by the US and international community and the other was supported by same community. Look up "The Zimbabwe Democracy and Economic Recovery Act of 2001". And believe me, if those sanctions are painless as some people on this thread are claiming, then the US and its allies wouldn't be doing it. Communism does not work as good as capitalism but communism along with stifling sanctions definitely will not work at all. Switch communism with just about any economic system and the results will be the same. That too is settled. I do not think you are part of the clique, when I see your post, I know u are actually going to try and debate me instead of replying with snark and name calling. The people I am talking about know exactly who they are.
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    Yesterday, 02:12 PM
    Btw, the US seizes private properties and bank accounts of foreign govts too, seizing private property is not unique to Venezuela. In the case of Venezuela, they understand how private property especially in vital sectors can be used by foreign govts to undermine the nation and cause unrest. You see what happened in Chile when the CIA was able to use the Chilean trucking industry to undermine the govt. These countries are virtually in a constant state of war playing defense all the time knowing that the US is unrelenting in their desire to overthrow them. These policies wouldn't be happening in peace time If you think the US states, the greatest country in the world and its allies carrying on a campaign to undermine the Venezuelan govt is contributing 0% of the country's economic problems, them I am really a Nigerian prince and a $5000 custom fees wired via western union to me is the only thing stopping me from sending you $25m for your effort. Some clips open minded people interested in this debate should view.
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  • juleswin's Avatar
    Yesterday, 11:08 AM
    So many thread in RPF reminds me of high school, where one sides just lines up behind their cliques, deploying all manners of logical fallacies and ignoring the points made by the other side. Keep calling me a commie, that should win the argument with your clique.
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    Yesterday, 10:26 AM
    The funny part is that most of the stories he posts about Venezuela point to US meddling and he still thinks that the effects are minimal. Btw, I used to be like him where I was staunch free markets. I was very dogmatic about the capitalist system being the only way to run an prosperous economy. I have soften up on that idea. Capitalism is the most efficient way and most likely to lead to prosperity but I now know that humans can succeed in just about any economic system. Socialism, command economy, capitalism (obviously), once you can psych the populous into believing that they are working for each other, there is equity in the system and the leader are not stealing from they. The human animal can thrive even in a cage. The reason I think capitalism works best is that it is the economic system when these claims are easiest to make
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    Yesterday, 10:17 AM
    Maybe the Venezuela is just more vulnerable to US meddling. Sudden collapse or tipping point? their efforts to undermine the Venezuelan economic started when Chavez was in power and now with the help of low oil prices which the economy(which the country is high dependent on) and well placed sanction led to a collapse. The point being that the economy would most likely not have collapsed had the US not meddled. Also take a look at the other countries US is meddling in. We have North Korea, Russia, Iran, Sudan and feel free to add more and you can see that all these countries are having problems with their economies. The common denominator with these countries is not their economic system but it is US meddling. End the US meddling, sanctions and economic sabotage and watch how they all experience economic recoveries.
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    Yesterday, 01:40 AM
    And the US owes lots of people lots of money too. As a %age of GDP, the United States Capitalist country has a much higher debt to GDP ration than Commie Venezuela, imagine that? The difference between the two is that one has the ability to print money and two have the ability to sanction countries they don't like to make it harder for that country to finance their much smaller debt. Sorry buddy, but the US meddling is the cause of their economic problems.
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  • Thor's Avatar
    05-22-2018, 09:04 PM
    We will keep vacillating on dipshits while the Dems and Repubs advance the police state. More cameras, drones, NSA, biometric markers, you know - standard fair... and then AI will take over the infrastructure they have built and fuck us all up the ass real hard... But, hey, we are helping... LOL... wishful dreams.
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