merkelstan
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Like looking for treasure on Oak Island, lol.

He tells the myths first and then does the debunking or validation of them afterwards. It's a great channel. His conclusion in this cases is that it's almost certainly just a hoax, but we can't prove it.

Your ignorance is showing again. The media are indeed part of the ruling class. But the deepstate is the permanent bureaucracy, and they ignored orders from Trump at will.

They were pursuing impeachment with the Russia garbage since he was sworn in, his entire term was a balancing act playing one power faction against another in order to do anything and not be removed.

He was in the car being picked up at the airport by the heads of the militias doing the attacks. He was well known for coordinating terrorism by Iranian proxies in the region and had no legitimate reason to be there.

RFK is probably less that than Biden is.

LOL They were chasing Trump with impeachment since Day 1 with the Russiagate garbage. His entire term was an exercise in balancing power camps to stay in office and get things done. And Trump was doing his usual hinted warning to people about Epstein "liking them young", there is nothing suspicious at all about Trump not tossing a guy out of his club on the first unproven allegation, especially when being a NYC Real Estate Tycoon required him to hang out in those circles. If there was any blackmail on Trump related to Epstein it would have been dumped when he had him arrested the first time and cooperated with the victims and their lawyers when nobody else would. It certainly would have been leaked when he had him arrested the second time and shut down the operation on the island, and yet in spite of every effort to destroy Trump it has never been leaked. Your threadbare theory and understanding of power politics are laughable.

Well, it seems that Paul Grice is part of a group that holds beliefs akin to sovereign citizens and filed about 40 pages of legal documents, citing bible verses, common law and historical stuff as to why the current system has no jurisdiction over him and revoking his citizenship. The others in the Misfit group likely hold the same beliefs. So, this is solid evidence as to why the group would be infiltrated by the feds and why it could be that this guy, placed at the scene of two grizzly murders, would be both interviewed by the FBI (vs sheriff) and not arrested with the other four. Here's some insane private police consulting company describing the group: Sovereign citizens are individuals who, despite being legal citizens of their respective countries, deny the legitimacy of their governments and thus consider themselves immune to their laws. The movement is loosely affiliated and not typically unified, though followers share similar beliefs and ideologies. They use terms to describe themselves such as “living man” or “woman,” “natural woman” or “man,” “free man” or “woman,” “secured party creditor,” “state national,” and the newest variation, “American State National.” Sovereign citizens are anti-government, anti-democratic and anti-institution, and can be best described as modern-day outlaws. They pose a threat to the U.S. government and other governments worldwide. As legal citizens of a country who reject the jurisdiction of their government and its justice systems, they exhibit anarchist tendencies. Accurate statistics on the sovereign citizen movement are challenging to obtain. Estimates suggest there are between 100,000 to 300,000 sovereign citizens in the United States. In recent years, federal officials have noted a resurgence in the movement. The Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) has identified the sovereign citizen movement as one of its “top threats.”

Couldn't agree more! I used to be very into the paranormal and spent years going down the alien abduction rabbit hole. Not worth it.

I had to stop where he said a dead dog was thrown into the hole but came back a few days later.

RFK supported and still supports the entire D establishment, and that includes their pet RINOs like McConnell whether he is quite as open about that part or not. Trump had to negotiate and cut compromises to make any progress at all and to avoid being convicted and removed in one of the phony impeachments which almost happened anyway. And nothing can hurt McConnell, he and Dominion have a lock on his seat in both the primaries and the general.

The media is not the deepstate. And the deepstate ignored any order he gave that they wanted to in the White House, that's a fact. The media told us what he did because they were whipping their mob into a frenzy with twisted lies about it all and because the alternative media was telling us about it.

LOL People know what he did, and no amount of denial by you will change that.

Irrelevant, they have been at war with us nonstop since Carter. They were engaged in attacking our embassy and Trump put a stop to it. Learn to read. He didn't do it. FULL STOP. There is no excuse mentioned at all, because there is none for the people who did do it.

Don't forget that they are keeping the visibly senile man who is hated by everyone on the D ticket as if they are going to replace him at the last minute and RFK is the only viable replacement and is trying to appear centrist enough to steal Trump votes while being leftist enough not to lose the far left TDS crowd when they lose Biden to a last minute death or admission of senility.

Correct, RFK is.

So, the deepstate that ignored Trump and did everything it could to thwart him at every turn, just as I expected you to be lying about.

No he didn't. Whatever you are twisting was either Congress deep in the veto proof budget bills or the deepstate bureaucrats whom he had no control over.

He made some progress and was thwarted largely by the people RFK supports. Thwarted by the people RFK supports. He attempted to and got railroaded by the entire establishment, especially by the people RFK supports.

A country that is at war with us, and a general who was coordinating a terrorist attack on sovereign US soil. (our embassy)

You can argue about the intent but what matters is the effect, not the intent. Uniform tariffs provide an advantage to domestic producers, it's a simple fact. Ron finds that to be much better than the bad effects of other taxes, I find it to be a beneficial effect. The difference between low uniform tariffs and what I want (high tariffs on anything we can make here) is a mere matter of detail and intensity. Cry more.

A fifth person was named in probable cause statements about the murders as having participated, but he has not been arrested, and investigators have not explained how he is connected. https://www.crimeonline.com/2024/04/17/emotions-run-high-for-victims-families-at-first-court-appearance-for-4-suspects-in-murders-of-veronica-butler-and-jilian-kelley/

I was thinking how he was asked to leave the band due to his drinking but he outlived Gregg Allman.

#8 Oh, and one last thing: When the four were arraigned, yesterday, the little courthouse had snipers on the roof. The sheriff said it was because they didn't know how many of these anti government cult members members may be out there and if they were a threat. My take on that was that the FBI planted that thought, via the OCBI who advised the sheriff. The sheriff also made a point about the wonderful cooperation between all local OK LE, the OBCI and the FBI. Yeah, I'll bet. Going all the way to the Oklahoma City bombing, an FBI orchestrated terror attack.

#7 So, you can clearly see that CW, Cora's 16 year old daughter, said the fifth perp, Paul Grice, was at the scene of the murders and that she got that straight from her own perp mother, just two hours after the murders happened. She also placed him at the attempted murder in February, based on the conversation she overheard. So, being that "God's Misfits" are being called an "anti government cult" and since Paul Grice was part of the group, placed at the murder scene and not arrested, I said WTF? I smell a rat. My theory - and others have thought the same - is that Paul Grice is an FBI informant. The only "evidence" I have to base that theory on is because the Misfits are said to be anti government and Christopher Wray been pushing the narrative of white Christians (though these people are surely Satan's minions") pose an extreme danger to the security United States of America. I'm thinking Paul Grice infiltrated the group and that's how he can be placed at the scene of what was a very brutal murder of two women and he's suddenly John Doe #2 and nothing to see here. OK Bureau of Criminal Investigation and the sheriff say they're satisfied they have all of the killers and are not talking about Grice, even though he's right there in their own arrest affidavit. I saw a short interview, tonight, where a guy who employs Grice as a ranch hand said OBCI (or whatever it's called) And THE FBI interviewed Grice and let him go, saying he wasn't a suspect. Why would the FBI be interviewing Grice? This is a state crime, not federal. Even though there are kidnapping charges, it all occurred in one Oklahoma county so no interstate offense. I believe the FBI has told OK LE to shut up about Grice because he's their guy. Some may recall, that the Mafia hitman, Whitey Bolger/Bulger was whacking people right and left while working as an informant and the FBI covered for him. Never mind that the FBI has orchestrated terrorist attacks, killing massive numbers of people. They don't care about murder, as we well know. The five "Misfits" killing a couple of white women is incidental and doesn't advance the white supremacist narrative so they aren't interested in any of that. They are interested in protecting their informant.

#6 The Oklahoma State Bureau of Investigation arrested Tifany Adams, Tad Cullum, Cole Twombly, and Cora Twombly on Saturday, charging them with murder, kidnapping, and conspiracy in the deaths of Butler and Kelley. On Sunday, investigators they’d found two bodies they believe to be the missing women and are awaiting a medical examiner’s identification. The codefendant’s daughter The most critical information in the affidavit came from the 16-year-old daughter of Cora Twombly and Coby White, apparently her previous husband. Identified in the document as CW, the girl told investigators that her mother, Cole Twombly, Adams, Cullum, and another man were all “involved in the deaths of Butler and Kelley.” Arrest affidavit and the entire psycho plot at link:

#5 Bear with me here as this is a lot of info and I'm going to look for the statement/affidavit from CW that names Grice as being at the scene of the crime. She also said that all five of them attempted to kill Veronica, back in February, traveling to Kansas to do it but were unable to lure her from her home to kill her. So that's TWICE CW mentions Paul Grice being involved. CW said she overheard a conversation with her mother and others about the February attempt. On the day of the murders, her own mother Cora, told her the five of them did it. CW asked why Jilian had to die and Cora said "she's not innocent because she supported Veronica". CW asked if they dumped the bodies in a well and Cora said, "Something like that".

#4 April 14 The OSBI announced Sunday night that two bodies had been found in rural Texas county, Oklahoma. While the identities of the deceased were not released, the update was made by sharing a social post that announced the arrest of four individuals in connection with the disappearances of Veronica Butler and Jilian Kelley. 1779676929819357360 https://twitter.com/OSBI_OK/status/1779676929819357360

#3 Tifany and her boyfriend Tad belong to some group they call God's Misfits. Allegedly "anti government", though I don't know the details of whatever their beliefs are. One her facebook page was a yard sign opposing some local tax increase (nothing burger) and a Trump sign or flag. This par of Oklahoma is nowheresville, flat country, with rodeo going farmers and ranchers. Way more cattle than humans. Tifany is on the hospital board and is chair of the county GOP (which isn't saying much because there's few people involved in it). Two of the Misfits, a couple named Cook, had the little kids for the night before the women went missing. Tifany picked them up by noon (after the visitation exchange was to have taken place). Tifany told the Cooks that Veronica had cancelled the visit. Two other people in the Misfits are Cole and Cora Twombly, also ranchers. Another guy named Paul Grice, who's property is across the road from Tad, Tifany's SO, is also in the group. He's in his early thirties, with a wife and three little kids, and does ranch work. It's Paul Grice who looks like he might be an informant.