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    Today, 10:04 AM
    Why are you here then, if you feel that way about Ron Paul's positions? You realize this website is called the "Ron Paul Forums." Right?
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    Today, 09:23 AM
    So you're saying that Ron Paul supported changing the current incoherent and unfair system to one where the same rules and waiting periods applied to legal immigrants from all countries. How is that not what I've said? It's pretty obvious from that quote that Ron Paul supported increasing legal immigration.
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    Today, 09:17 AM
    But on many occasions he has said we can't and he doesn't support deporting all of them. Coming up with a legal way to do that would be part of the immigration reform he was talking about. Also, note that if we let someone enter and stay legally, then they wouldn't be a violator of US law. The quote you give here is only about dealing with illegal immigration, not the question of more or less legal immigration.
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    Today, 09:08 AM
    Because that's his position. He has always said that. But note that he also wants to give them a way to stay here without getting deported that he does not consider amnesty.
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    Today, 09:04 AM
    I think the "immigration reform" he was talking about was dealing with those already here unlawfully, as in amnesty versus deportation versus other approaches in between those extremes. He didn't want to grant amnesty to people who had crossed the border illegally while we still had unlimited numbers crossing the border illegally, since that would create incentive for more to do that. But if the illegal border crossings could be stopped, then something could be done with those already here that would allow them to stay without incentivizing more illegal crossing. Of course, part of what could be done is making it easier to come here legally in the first place.
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    Today, 08:44 AM
    If we let them come in legally, then that number would be near zero. For most of us, that's part of the "whatever it takes." I get that for you it isn't. But that goes right back to the problem of you quoting sound bytes like that and pretending they mean that Ron Paul supports your views in the face of countless examples of him saying that he doesn't.
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    Today, 08:33 AM
    The problem with what you guys are saying is that you just assume that Ron Paul agrees with you about whom he doesn't want to enter. He has clearly said over and over that he does not. You say "we" like there's some monolithic American opinion. There isn't. You have your opinion. I have mine. Ron Paul has his. And whatever your opinion is, you don't have a moral right to impose it on all the rest of us. If someone wants to come here to work and not go on welfare, Ron Paul says he wants them to be able to. To take some sound byte that doesn't actually contradict that position and twist it into him saying that he does support stopping people from immigrating here peacefully to work is dishonest.
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    Today, 07:40 AM
    Let the reader understand.
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    Today, 07:38 AM
    If someone believes predictions of global warming, I imagine that real estate in Greenland would be expected to increase in value.
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  • Ender's Avatar
    Yesterday, 09:57 PM
    Yep- the Anti-Federalists were right.
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    Yesterday, 12:52 PM
    He does both. All the time.
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    Yesterday, 12:49 PM
    We get that you think that. Just don't pretend that the things Trump's doing that make you think that are things Ron Paul supports or try to twist his "whatever it takes" line into support of policies he has always repudiated.
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    Yesterday, 12:45 PM
    Exactly. And yet somehow you keep trying to twist it into meaning whatever it is you want it to mean, rather than letting Ron Paul's own explanations of his positions speak for themselves.
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    Yesterday, 12:26 PM
    It's you who fails to, or rather refuses to, understand what Ron Paul meant by that. You keep trying to extrapolate from his use of those words that he must have advocated policies that he has always consistently and explicitly repudiated. Ron Paul never said, "We must do whatever nikcers thinks is necessary to secure our borders." We need to let Ron Paul in his own words explain what he meant by that. You don't get to put your own words in his mouth.
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    Yesterday, 12:13 AM
    They were offered overtime to attend. CNN reported that workers were given the option of taking paid time off for the day, but that still had the effect of diminishing overtime pay at the end of the week for those who skipped the speech. “It was understood some would choose not to attend the presidential visit and were given the option to take paid time off (PTO) instead,” Shell spokesperson Curtis Smith told CNN. “As with any workweek, if someone chooses to take PTO, they are not eligible to receive maximum overtime.” A memo to workers, shared with the network by an unnamed congressional source, read: “Those who are NOT in attendance will not receive overtime pay on Friday.” Workers who did attend, another Shell spokesperson told the Post-Gazette, would count the hours toward their work week, and toward the time-and-a-half overtime pay that kicks in after a threshold.
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    08-17-2019, 02:52 PM
    The only accounts of Iran's "terrorism" is fighting back- not instigating. Get a clue on Syria. '
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    08-17-2019, 02:44 PM
    The US is the biggest radicalizer of terrorists in the world. Get. A. Clue.
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    08-17-2019, 02:43 PM
    LOL- yep- same here!
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    08-17-2019, 02:00 PM
    The US has always been after Iran- the Iranian Deal was at least not starving them. That said, the Iranians haven't started a war in 100+ years- they're made the "bad guys" because TPTB want their resources. Israel has 200-400 nuclear warheads & refused to sign the nuclear deal, but they're the good guys. Go figure.
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    08-17-2019, 01:54 PM
    Ender replied to a thread American Tragedy in U.S. Political News
    Which is exactly why I keep quoting The Matrix. Time to WAKE UP.
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    08-17-2019, 01:46 PM
    WTF are you talking about?
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  • Superfluous Man's Avatar
    08-16-2019, 02:52 PM
    I think there is plenty of demand in certain fields, and practically none at all in some others. But take the fields where the demand isn't there. Then that just means that the government is forcing on us something that the public doesn't even want enough that it would willingly bear the cost of it in the marketplace if it were privatized. In these cases whose interests are being served? It's not the public. It's typically certain bigger or established players in the industry who benefit by regulations that stifle their competition.
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    08-16-2019, 12:45 PM
    BUT: Newborn Seized After ‘Off-Grid’ Parents Refuse Social Security Number https://www.offthegridnews.com/current-events/newborn-seized-after-off-grid-parents-refuse-social-security-number/
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  • Superfluous Man's Avatar
    08-16-2019, 12:14 PM
    Of course. And I've never denied that. That's why I don't get what you're trying to argue about.
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  • Ender's Avatar
    08-16-2019, 12:09 PM
    Quoting Ron Paul is being a bad actor? HERE is RP's position above & one that I have been quoting since FOREVER- LEARN TO READ. The solution to really addressing the problem of illegal immigration, drug smuggling, and the threat of cross-border terrorism is clear: remove the welfare magnet that attracts so many to cross the border illegally, stop the 25 year US war in the Middle East, and end the drug war that incentivizes smugglers to cross the border.
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    08-16-2019, 12:08 PM
    Exactly. So you agree with me that it's dishonest when people quote Ron Paul saying he wants to control the borders and try to use that as evidence that he shares their anti-immigration views. He clearly doesn't, and has said so many times.
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    08-16-2019, 12:04 PM
    There are lots of ways. And it's not even that hard to conceive of because it's how things were before 9/11. I crossed in and out at the Canadian border back then without a passport, but I still went through controlled border crossings. But those are questions to ask Ron Paul. You may not think it's possible to reconcile his policies with the sound byte quotes you gave, but he obviously never had the problem with reconciling those things that you have. You're the one who sees contradictions where they don't actually exist.
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    08-16-2019, 12:01 PM
    That guy can't read.
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  • Superfluous Man's Avatar
    08-16-2019, 12:00 PM
    I have never said that. Find the quote if you think I have.
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  • Superfluous Man's Avatar
    08-16-2019, 10:00 AM
    If I'm doing that, then why can't you find a quote of me doing that?
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