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    Today, 09:37 PM
    Why no response to anything I said in my previous post? It's easy to post scriptures like the one above, but it doesn't negate anything I said. I already mentioned this passage earlier. I was about to go over all the different interpretations of that passage (there are a few, from a vegetarian/vegan perspective) but I honestly was not intending to get into a Bible study tonight, and that is not even the topic of this thread anyway, so we can go into more detail on this at another time, on another thread. For now I'll say this. Picture in your mind a timeline. At the very beginning, you have God's perfect will (peace and harmony among all living beings, no violence, no killing, no meat eating)...And then at the end, when God restores that original design, once again you'll have God's perfect will. Everything in between is a symptom of this fallen world. Not God's perfect will, but in many cases God giving us over to what we want, due to the hardness of our hearts. So when you look at that timeline, and you see on the left and on the right, God's perfect will… and in the middle this fallen world… what should we, as Christians, aim for? Unless it is a matter of survival, why not honor God's original design and His ultimate plan which he is moving us toward, as we speak? Why not think about the condition of mankind overall, and question why there is so much disease, violence, corruption? Perhaps if we go back to how God originally designed us – to be peaceful, non-violent, and to eat a healthy plant-based diet – then we would see a reversal of these diseases and destruction of this beautiful earth God gave us stewardship of. Also, think about the fruit of the Spirit. What is more in line with love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control – a slaughterhouse or a garden? :) Please answer honestly.
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    Today, 07:40 PM
    Wasn't becoming a bitch his malfunction?
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    Today, 07:34 PM
    You were there, weren't you?
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    Today, 07:02 PM
    Again, the important thing is God's original design/intent, which is the same as God's ultimate plan, as prophesied in Isaiah and other places. Since God does not change, I believe it is wrong to dismiss God's original design by cherry picking verses that may at first glance appear to contradict it. There are a few different interpretations of that verse about Abel and his offering. The mainstream interpretation seems to be that once sin came into the world, that's when sacrifices were introduced, to of course foreshadow Jesus' sacrifice for our sin. Since this represented something very serious and horrible, it was not something to be done lightly. (And btw, nowhere in that text does it say they ate meat. In fact, that verse doesn't say that Abel killed anything, just that he brought God the best of his flock.) There are a couple other views on that passage… But I don't have time right now to get into all of that. Also, I think it's very important to know that God repeatedly said that he has no pleasure in animal slaughter and he never required it. (Psalm 51:16, Hosea 6:6, Jeremiah 7:22, Isaiah 1:11, Matthew 9:13, Hebrews 10:8, Psalm 40:6, Mark 12:33, Jeremiah 32:30, etc.) So when you put all that together – the heart of God, a heart of love, mercy, compassion, along with his very clear words in Genesis 1:29, and the numerous verses about his desire for mercy, not sacrifice…I think it is wrong to assume that God has no problem with what we are doing with animals.
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    Today, 06:08 PM
    De Jesus Cruz was suckled by a society that wants men to be docile. What the fuck is Schwartz talking about?
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    Today, 06:01 PM
    Virtually every mass shooting in recent memory had one key feature in common: It happened in a so-called "gun-free" zone created by politicians. But after the massacre last week at the school in Parkland, Florida, that left 17 dead, the push is on to ensure that children will no longer be sitting ducks for murderers. Already, legislation at the state and federal level has been introduced to repeal the so-called "gun-free zones" that have made schools the target of so many killers. In Florida, lawmakers are taking up a bill this week that would designate certain teachers to arm and train in the use of firearms to protect their students. "I don't feel gun-free zones protect anyone but criminals, and there is no evidence that says otherwise," explained State Senator Greg Steube, a Republican who is pushing the legislation. In Texas, Colorado, and other states, some schools and districts are already arming teachers. In Congress, meanwhile, there is a fresh push to pass legislation that would repeal the 1990 "Gun-Free School Zones Act" that has been blamed by activists for contributing to the massacres of children. The bill, dubbed the " "Safe Students Act," or HR 34, would ensure that the feds are no longer complicit in making schools perfect targets for madmen. Major organizations are also renewing the push to end the gun-free zones. The national group Gun Owners of America, for instance, which is widely viewed as more principled than the NRA, is helping to lead the charge.
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    Today, 05:58 PM
    After decades of United Nations “peacekeeping” troops and officials raping women and children all over the world with complete impunity and even “diplomatic immunity,” a chorus of global outrage and media attention is reaching epic proportions. A handful of predators are now facing justice. But the tsunami of public fury comes as widely reported estimates suggest some 60,000 victims have been raped and sexually abused by UN officials over just the last decade — with almost nobody punished but the victims and whistleblowers. Still, the wheels of justice are turning, slowly but surely. Just this week, the top “children's rights” chief at the disgraced UN “children” agency UNICEF admitted to raping a 12-year-old boy — after the same agency was caught running a child pornography studio in its basement in Belgium using African children it procured. That UN child rapist was sentenced to prison this week. But former UN officials have said that the revelations so far are just the “tip of the iceberg.” The escalating pedophilia and sex abuse scandals engulfing the UN and its “peacekeeping” forces have become so massive that even the pro-UN media, including the notoriously globalist CNN and The Guardian, have been forced to cover it. Indeed, all over the world, the UN is making headlines for raping and exploiting children — not to mention sexual abuse and harassment of the UN's own employees. Various “aid” groups funded by taxpayers are in the crosshairs, too. As the scandals grow, the UN formally announced — for the first time ever — that it would not claim “diplomatic immunity” to protect the estimated 3,300 pedophiles working for the global organization. So far, though, virtually none of the UN troops involved in the widespread rape of children have been held criminally accountable. In fact, those who tried to stop the pedophile rapists were viciously persecuted while the predators continued their horrific abuses. Meanwhile, as the UN faces global criticism for the abuse, the UN “education” agency known as UNESCO has just sparked controversy by releasing radical new “Comprehensive Sexuality Education” standards for humanity. Among other concerns, critics suggested the radical indoctrination program, which begins by normalizing the “LGBT” agenda and promoting "sexual pleasure" at age five, would help sexualize and “groom” young children, facilitating sexual abuse. UNICEF and other agencies repeatedly caught in pedophilia scandals were also involved in the new sex standards that critics say facilitate exploitation and abuse of children. Aside from the UN itself, a number of globalist and leftist “non-governmental organizations” that purport to fight for “children” are also ensnared in growing child-rape scandals. So far, tax-funded Oxfam, the radical left-wing outfit that shills for globalism and statism, has taken center stage, with some of its top executives implicated in organizing or covering up orgies with local victims in Haiti, including allegations that some of the girls coerced into the bizarre “sex parties” were children. The scandal reportedly goes all the way to the top. Among the explosive stories coming out is one that just hit the headlines this week. Former UNICEF “child rights” campaigner Peter Newell, who led the global effort to jail parents who spank their children as a disciplinary measure, was sentenced to six years in a British prison for raping a young boy, who was just 12 when the predatory UN official began raping him. The “horrific” abuse was perpetrated by Newell while he worked for the UN drawing up the guidelines for the totalitarian “UN Convention on the Rights of the Child,” a global scheme that sidelines parents and parental rights — thereby facilitating abuse of children by predators. The U.S. government has not joined the UN CRC. More at:...
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    Today, 05:54 PM
    The people’s representatives in the Alabama State Legislature are considering curtailing the power of the state’s law enforcement officers from seizing the property (including the money) of individuals who have not been convicted of any crime. Some sheriffs and other police agencies do not support this proposal, however. In fact, two law-enforcement officials are so adamant that lawmakers not revoke this power that they have penned an op-ed in opposition to the bill, and in that article they are remarkably frank about how fruitful the civil asset forfeiture policy has been for cops in the Heart of Dixie. Just how profitable has the program been in Alabama? A report published earlier this year revealed that in 2015, Alabama law enforcement seized nearly $2.2 million! The data was gathered from 14 of the state’s 67 counties. It isn’t unexpected, then, that police officials do not want that gravy train derailed. In their op-ed published on February 12 on AL.com, Brian McVeigh, Calhoun County district attorney and president of the Alabama District Attorneys Association, and Dave Sutton, sheriff of Coffee County and president of the Alabama Sheriffs Association, vigorously pleaded for protection of their power to seize people’s property without due process. What is remarkable about the article, though, is the open admission that they currently deny due process to those whose property they seize and that they really like the money it brings in. They write: Two changes to the state's civil forfeiture law are especially concerning to DAs and law enforcement. One would allow forfeiture only if there is a criminal conviction; the other would require that any proceeds from forfeitures go to the state's General Fund rather than local law enforcement. Though these changes may sound good, they would hurt public safety and make civil forfeiture less fair. Requiring criminal convictions would result in more criminal charges filed and more people going to prison for lesser crimes. Consider pretrial diversion programs, such as drug court, for example. These programs allow people arrested for nonviolent crimes, including some drug charges, to go into treatment and other programs that keep them out of prison. Participants in these programs are not convicted of a crime, so under the proposed change, the only way to deprive them of their ill-gotten gains would be to prosecute them. Meanwhile, sending the proceeds of forfeiture to the state's General Fund would result in fewer busts of drug and stolen property rings. What incentive would local police and sheriffs have to invest manpower, resources and time in these operations if they don't receive proceeds to cover their costs?
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  • Raginfridus's Avatar
    Today, 05:38 PM
    Its only as old as the day you learned it. Should be the same day you learn television lies.
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    Today, 05:20 PM
    One day after we reported that Latvia's central bank governor - and ECB Governing Council member - Ilmars Rimsevics was detained by Latvia’s anti-corruption authority on Saturday on suspicion of accepting a bribe of more than €100,000, prompting both Latvia's Prime Minister and the president to call on Rimsevics to resign, Latvia now appears to have a full-blown banking crisis on its hands, after the European Central Bank froze all payments by Latvia's third largest bank, ABLV, following U.S. accusations the bank laundered billions in illicit funds, including for companies connected to North Korea’s banned ballistic-missile program. More at: https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-02-19/latvia-bank-crisis-central-bank-chaos-ecb-blocks-payments-third-largest-bank
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    Today, 05:09 PM
    The European Union is ready to start negotiating Iran’s participation in the Southern Gas Corridor project, the EU’s Vice President for Energy Union Maros Sefcovic told media at the Fourth Ministerial Meeting of the Southern Gas Corridor Advisory Council. The Southern Gas Corridor is a project of strategic importance for the EU, as it will reduce its dependence on Russian gas by eventually replacing part of it with Azeri gas from the Shah Deniz field in the Caspian Sea. The project will build on the existing South Caucasus Pipeline, which will be expanded and extended into Turkey via the Trans Anatolian Pipeline. From Greece, the Caspian gas will flow to Italy via the Trans Adriatic Pipeline. Both TANAP and TAP have yet to be built. But the Shah Deniz gas is just the beginning. From the start it has been made clear that other producers of the fuel are welcome to join the project, which will initially supply 10 billion cubic meters annually to the European Union. To compare, in 2016 Gazprom supplied 49.83 billion cubic meters to its single largest buyer in the EU, Germany. Iran is a logical addition given the size of its gas reserves. More at: https://oilprice.com/Latest-Energy-News/World-News/EU-Ready-To-Consider-Iran-Joining-Southern-Gas-Corridor.html
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    Today, 05:07 PM
    The Louisiana Offshore Oil Port (LOOP) said on Sunday that it had successfully loaded the first Very Large Crude Carrier (VLCC) with U.S. oil bound for export in what could be a game-changer for U.S. crude oil sales overseas. The U.S. has already exported crude oil in supertankers, but because all U.S. ports except for LOOP are too shallow for the very large tankers, smaller tankers have had to make multiple short voyages to the supertankers to load them while they dock offshore. “There could not be a better time to offer this service as domestic production surpasses 10 million barrels per day in the ever-dynamic global crude oil market,” Tom Shaw, LOOP president, said in a statement. “The new onloading configuration was accomplished with only minor modifications to existing facilities and is scalable to meet the changing needs of the industry,” Shaw added. More at: https://oilprice.com/Latest-Energy-News/World-News/Louisiana-Port-Starts-US-Crude-Oil-Exports-On-Supertankers.html
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    Today, 05:03 PM
    On Friday, Judge Emmet Sullivan issued an order in United States v. Flynn that, while widely unnoticed, reveals something fascinating: A motion by Michael Flynn to withdraw his guilty plea based on government misconduct is likely in the works. Just a week ago, and thus before Sullivan quietly directed Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s team to provide Flynn’s attorneys “any exculpatory evidence,” Washington Examiner columnist Byron York detailed the oddities of Flynn’s case. The next day, former assistant U.S. attorney and National Review contributing editor Andrew McCarthy connected more of the questionable dots. York added even more details a couple of days later. Together these articles provide the backdrop necessary to understand the significance of Sullivan’s order on Friday. Why Bombshells Are Likely Ahead With a protective order in place, Flynn’s attorneys should start receiving the required disclosures from the special counsel’s office. There is reason to believe these will include some bombshells. First, we know from the recently released GOP House Intelligence Committee memo and the Grassley-Graham criminal referral of Christopher Steele, the FBI and DOJ withheld significant (and material, in my view) information in seeking a Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) warrant to conduct surveillance on Trump campaign volunteer Carter Page. There is cause to believe the FISA court was connected to the criminal charge filed against Flynn because Contreras, who recused less than a week after accepting Flynn’s guilty plea, “is one of just three FISA court judges who sits in the District of Columbia, where it is likely the Trump-Russia FISA warrants were sought.” Was other evidence withheld, either from the FISA court or from Flynn’s attorneys in negotiating a plea? Again, there is reason to believe so, given the players involved and the facts already uncovered. Remember, the special counsel charged Flynn with lying to FBI agents on January 24. While the charge did not identify the FBI agents involved, we know that Peter Strzok conducted the January interview that eventually led to the criminal case against Flynn. Strzok formed a part of Mueller’s team until he was removed following the discovery of hostile text messages concerning Trump, including a planned “insurance policy” should Trump win the White House. Obama political holdover Sally Yates’ involvement in the case raises additional concerns. While Strzok and Mueller initially indicated they believed Flynn had been truthful, Yates, while serving as acting attorney general, had directed Strzok to interview Flynn and had pushed for charges against Flynn under the Logan Act. Another member of Mueller’s team, Andrew Weissmann, is likewise suspect given his praise for Yates’ refusal to defend Trump’s travel ban. Weissmann remains a part of the special counsel’s team, notwithstanding calls for his ouster. Mueller must now provide Flynn all exculpatory evidence: Significantly, if the information is favorable to Flynn but the special counsel’s office believes it is immaterial, government attorneys must nonetheless provide the evidence to Sullivan to allow him to make the call. In other words, Mueller’s team cannot unilaterally decide what evidence matters, as the Department of Justice did in applying to the FISA court for a surveillance warrant on Page while withholding the key fact that Hillary Clinton and the Democratic National Committee paid for information crucial to the application.
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    Today, 04:51 PM
    Peace through strength is the only way to have peace, but we don't need the strength we already have to achieve it let alone more.
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    Today, 04:46 PM
    I don't believe anything will happen, I think Trump intends to talk a lot and do nothing. That said, we can't afford to be complacent.
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    Today, 04:38 PM
    The hidden formula is a fucking applause box that tells the audience when to laugh.
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    Today, 04:35 PM
    You and I will probably live longer than the losers who believe that science even comes close to understanding what a human should consume but even if we don't you are correct, living a long time is a curse if you are miserable the whole time.
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    Today, 04:30 PM
    He never claimed to be Christ, but a prophet who needed to finish his last Oracle or some shit. The attorney of Koresh's grandmother, who was trying to reach out to the jackboots and propagandists was emphatic that once David had written his stupid prophecy he would surrender. The jackboots just wanted blood, and the propagandists just ran interference for that scraggly DOJ cunt.
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    Today, 04:30 PM
    ^^THIS^^
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    Today, 02:46 PM
    Syria doesn't want a war with Turkey but they can't let Turkey waltz into their territory and do as they please to Syrian citizens either, Turkey doesn't want a war with Syria but it does want to kill Syrian citizens and maybe take territory. We get to watch another "chicken race" play out on the global stage. I think Erdo is just stupid enough that there will be a war sooner or later.
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    Today, 02:21 PM
    You're bringing up a different topic and I'm not sure what you believe because as Pete said on that other thread, it is all over the place… But it is certainly not the standard Christian belief. As for the verse about Adam naming the animals, that only confirms what I've been saying. God's original design which we saw in the Garden of Eden was peace and harmony, not a slaughterhouse. Adam was to take care of the animals, name them, and nowhere in Genesis 1 did God say "I created animals for you to eat and exploit." Genesis 1:29 is very very clear, don't ignore that verse. Abel being a keeper of sheep does not mean for the purpose of eating them. The Bible is also clear that meat eating wasn't permitted until after the flood, and it is argued that that was only because all the vegetation was dead and there would have been very little to eat at that time. If any meat eating did occur before the flood, it almost certainly would have been because the fallen angels who corrupted mankind taught them all sorts of demonic things, meat-eating being one of them. In fact, some extra biblical writings say just that, I can look it up and post it for you if you want. Not nearly as much as Coke or apple juice and things like that. Also, almond milk comes unsweetened. :)
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    Today, 02:10 PM
    It's a matter of attitude not age.
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    Today, 02:08 PM
    Charles Whitman seems to be the first. They also called him a loner. I haven't done my own research, but there seem to be two kinds: the ones who snap on loved ones, kill them, then go out and mass murder, and the kind who make a plan of it.
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    Today, 11:59 AM
    They want a sword hunt like the Tokugawa had. Everyone with a gun must give up theirs, so only the ruling class can legally own one. Except here, instead of death, we'll be fed to the system. Some will refuse, but the average dumbfuck will have no sympathy for who are enemies of the state.
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    Today, 11:53 AM
    It's probably for added drama on the shooter's part, and so they can't get a quick ID. It would make throwing somebody under the bus easier.
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    Today, 10:53 AM
    Oh yeah, thanks! cue late bags
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    Today, 02:27 AM
    Medals for the Kops when it's all over no doubt. 50/50 odds they charge the citizen with something.
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