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    Today, 08:27 PM
    "once you get there I'll go grab the workers on the Key bridge and then stop the outer loop" and it's down. I'm no engineer but when I watched that I thought what a shitty bridge design that when one part falls it all falls. Why not have arches below that hold up independent sections?
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    Today, 07:56 PM
    Yes, though I would contend it wouldn't be any better to sell fentanyl to over 18s at the local liquor store, either.
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    Today, 07:45 PM
    OMG US 21.28 ODs per 100K Portugal 0.64 Why not copy what works?
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    Today, 07:33 PM
    For the sake of continuity, forgive me for not quoting the previous quotes in your post but I'm not sure how to. Yes, it has been tried! Vancouver gives out real, pharma grade, fentanyl which, again, is legally manufactured. It may not be legal to purchase or sell to the general public but they give it for free so it's easily available. Yes, those places got infested with commies long ago but don't you think addicts all over the streets compounds even the problems created by the shitlibs? It does because they've done it! Drugged out zombies cannot get jobs or take care of themselves. Without either in patient treatment or jail, they're on the streets. I think most addiction treatment facilities are private and the Salvation Army is the only charity that I'm aware of that has offered a residential program for alcoholics (in the city near me, anyway). Dunno if they still do it or how many SA's have done it. Getting into a treatment program is not easy because there are so few and many are very expensive. i don't buy that charities will step up and spend millions on this. They haven't done it, yet, have they? I see that as some kind of pipe dream. Besides, they're all busy destroying the country and getting paid for it by the State Dept and HHS. I'd like to know how Portugal does it.
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  • susano's Avatar
    Today, 07:02 PM
    Again, wasn't it Madison who said this only works with a moral people? We don't have that. Even in 1776 there were bad actors but do you think what's going on now would have been tolerated? I don't think so! Would it have been put up with in 1950? No. Now, I agree with you about many of the causes but that's another issue and will take longer to reverse, if it happens, which is doubtful. This is like debating how it came to be that Jeffery Dahmer ate people instead of locking his ass up first. On the one had, everything you brought up needs addressing/fixing and, on the other hand, the results of bad actions/not doing the right things have to be dealt with, now. I completely disagree that the problems are exaggerated. When in your life do you remember all of these homeless drug addicts living on the streets of American cities? When do you remember all of these fentanyl deaths? BTW, though I'm old, now, I came of age in the 70s and have done my share of drugs and it was free for all back then. Nothing like what we're seeing was happening then except for maybe Haight Ashbury which was pretty ground zero for what was to come. I don't want my freedoms impinged upon for a war on drugs but I'm saying that when man made dangerous drugs are legalized then you lose freedom because of mentally ill, drug addicted, violent lunatics become a threat to sane human beings. How free are people in San Francisco who have to leave their car windows down and hatch backs/trunks open so one of the degenerates doesn't smash the windows? How free are little kids or adults that have to walk through dangerous homeless encampments and filth to go about wherever they live? When I was young and living at home, my parents subscribed to National Geographic. I remember an issue on Bombay India that showed pics of this city with sky scrapers and other modern things you'd see in a big city, with people living on the sidewalks, in view of those buildings, in cardboard boxes with other trash as roofs for them. I was stunned that something like that could exist and at what a shithole the place was. Now, we're there! So, no, it's not exaggerated.
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    Today, 05:05 PM
    I've moved all the posts involving "War on Drugs" / "legalization" stuff to the following thread, as it is a better fit for the topic: Oregonians support ending drug decriminalization The moved posts start with this one.
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    Today, 04:48 PM
    It hasn't been "proven" in those cities because it hasn't been done in those cities. As I said earlier (and as Mark Thornton explains in the video I quoted in this post): You really can't "half-ass" this kind of thing like that and then expect anything but "half-assed" results. I would also add that those places didn't become shitholes because they "legalized" possession and consumption (but not production and distribution) - rather, they "legalized" possession and consumption (but not production and distribution) because they became shitholes (or as I put it ealier, because of "batshit insanity progressivism"). I don't disagree with any of this. But the State and it's prohibitions are not the source for that "infrastructure" you speak of - it is the destroyer of it. Forgive me for repeating this quote from an earlier post, but it bears repeating (this time with a different part emphasized):
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  • susano's Avatar
    Today, 04:17 PM
    Thank you. I looked and looked at it but couldn't "see" it. This is why two heads can better than one :)
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    Today, 04:14 PM
    I don't think I agree. In the past I would have but that doesn't seem to have been proven in the cities mentioned. They've all become shitholes. This isn't a problem with easy or ideological solutions. Because all of this poses serious problems to other people, it requires serious thinking and learning from others who have tried to tackle it, like Portugal. Without that treatment infrastructure, though, it won't work. Was it Madison who said this (freedom) only works with a moral people? How is serving the immoral working out? I agree with Bukele when he warns the US is headed in the same direction as El Salvador was when he took over. No sane society wants this. Even the loons in Portland are sorry they did it.
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    Today, 04:06 PM
    You left out the slash in the closing tag at the end.
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    Today, 04:02 PM
    There always have been and always will be booze hounds and drug addicts. The War on Drugs is no more "winnable" than the War on Booze was. The only thing it will accomplish is the enrichment of violent criminals and government bureaucrats. And the fact that government "safety" programs don't work any better than government "prohibition" programs should be a surprise to no one.
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    Today, 03:56 PM
    Bathtub gin wasn't deadly because it was gin. Some of it wasn't even gin at all. (The term "bathtub gin" was used to describe any illicitly produced booze that was cooked up in things like bathtubs - hence, "bathtub gin".) It was deadly because it was adulterated with other legally produced substances (such as formaldehyde) to increase its volume and/or potency. - just as (legally produced) fentanyl, in addition to being used directly as a drug itself, is often used to adulterate other drugs to increase their volume and/or potency (which are then consumed by unwitting users who don't even know it's there - something which would be much less likely to occur if the production and sale of drugs were fully legal and their producers and sellers could be held liable for such adulteration, just like alcohol producers are). From the article (bold emphasis added): And as I noted in your quote of me (bold emphasis added):
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    Today, 03:51 PM
    Ukraine is the ne plus ultra of election fortification.
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  • susano's Avatar
    Today, 03:51 PM
    This is where things really went to shit in the west. Anti human Marxism. Isn't that what Milei is also fighting? QZRqHCjLvViU https://www.bitchute.com/video/QZRqHCjLvViU/ Occam's Banana How did I not embed that right?
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  • susano's Avatar
    Today, 03:43 PM
    That approach to determining what's important to address priorities sounds as good as anything. I don't see how markets address rampant mental illness, drug addiction, crime and immorality. I would think markets would just feed all that. All of this shit is a result of the Marxist attack on our society. It was not like this when we grew up and it's getting worse. Do you want to live in one of these shitholes? I assume not. Why not if you think that hands off approach is correct?
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    Today, 03:29 PM
    The illegal grows are usually on public land. They just go out into the forest, clear an area, find a water supply, and set up. Would they buy their own land and incur that expense if there were no regulations? I doubt the ones who are basically squatting would. Some do, though. I saw a video about this, recently, and a certain ethnic group (can't recall who) bought houses and set up indoor grows. Anyway, that's all just weed and while the outdoor illegal operations are an environmental and violent criminal problem, it's just plants. Fentanyl, meth and other man made drugs are an entirely different problem. The addict coddling is/was an effort to make it safer (clean needles, "clean" drugs, designated user areas) and did not work. Addiction and crime just got worse. If they had just legalized or decriminalized the same drugs, with "safety" programs, that, too, would have been worse. It looks like the only place that has successfully done anything like this is Portugal but while they offer the "safety", they demand treatment and make it available. That is a huge taxpayer investment. There is no such infrastructure here. So, you either make it illegal and we get back to 1950s America or you put massive money into serious treatment programs for addicts and the mentally ill because legalization begets addicts and mental illness. Why do you think Soros has funded legalization efforts?
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    Today, 03:11 PM
    Dave Smith vs. Chris Freiman | What's the ideal immigration policy? | Just Asking Questions, Ep. 16 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M23uW7G1OEE {ReasonTV | 28 March 2024} Podcaster Dave Smith and philosopher Chris Freiman debate open borders on the latest episode of Just Asking Questions. Text and links to sources available here: https://reason.com/podcast/2024/03/28/dave-smith-vs-chris-freiman-whats-the-ideal-immigration-policy/ What's the ideal immigration policy?
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  • susano's Avatar
    Today, 03:10 PM
    I agree with control being local. The experiments in legalization of dangerous man made drugs should serve as a lesson to other locales who are considering the same.
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    Today, 03:05 PM
    Fentanyl production is legal. It's used in hospitals, especially in surgery. It's not so much illegal drug trafficking but trafficking (and manufacturing) in controlled substances. I don't know about comparisons to bathtub gin. You've gotta drink gin to OD on it and fentanyl is so deadly that unintentional exposure has killed or nearly killed people: Dad reveals horrific details of baby’s reported fentanyl overdose at S.F. playground https://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/article/San-Francisco-authorities-investigating-whether-a-17621718.php What possible reason does it make sense to have drugs like that on the streets?
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  • susano's Avatar
    Today, 02:49 PM
    Excellent response. I rarely read anything from Reason because it seems kind of commie, to me. I often see similarities between communism and whatever they're peddling (Utopia ideasphere). Where does the intellectualizing become critical theory? While some of those criticisms sounded legit, we don't know the details and will have to wait and see. I'm pro populist, too. Sure as hell beats unpopular. It's a stupid term for politics, anyway. Last but not least, I'm on record as supporting Bukele. In the ideaspehere, everything seems to start with the assumption that any given population is moral, reasonable and favors self control. Well, in real life that's not the case in a lot of places, like these violence infested shitholes. If Milei sees a reason to address drug trafficking, it's probably a problem that threatens Argentina, like most of Latin America.
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    Today, 02:49 PM
    Don't mind me. I just picked this thread at random to post this in. Carry on.
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    Today, 02:42 PM
    The fentanyl thing is not really much different from the poisonous "bathtub gin" problem that existed during alcohol prohibition. It's a problem that occurs because of prohibition, not because of "legalization". The problem with all these so-called "legalization" schemes is that they only "legalize" possession and consumption, but not production and distribution (which remain criminal). So the only producers, distributors, and sellers will be criminals who will (1) be prone to violence to protect their turf and profits, and (2) have no incentives to care about the quality or safety of their products. Notice that, unlike during alcohol prohibition, innocent (and even not-so-innocent) people are not being injured or killed during running gun battles between competing alcohol distributors (such as Anheuser-Busch and Miller Brewing Co.). Brewers and sellers don't need to peddle their wares on schoolyards, and those who peddle poisonous products can be held civilly and/or criminally liable to their victims. And this was all without having to coddle drunks (unlike what is going on in Portland and elsewhere with respect to drugs & addicts).
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    Today, 02:19 PM
    Well, yeah, but who's in control? The psychopaths are (including federales and military) because there's nothing stopping them. In less violent cultures, like north America (though becoming far violent than in the past), addicts are all over the streets, committing crime and dropping dead on the shit covered sidewalks. Vancouver, Portland, Seattle, Philly, are real life experiments in legalization or lax enforcement of drug laws. We've gone from weed being a harmless and natural plant that anyone should be free to use (I agree) to fentanyl and other who knows what drugs flooding those cities and it's made them shitholes. This is worth watching if you haven't seen it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PT8OU8Yhs_s
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    Today, 02:14 PM
    Portland's problem isn't the "legalization". Portland's problem is the irresponsible addict-coddling of batshit insanity progressivism. But if there are "illegal grows", then it isn't really legal, is it?
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    Today, 02:01 PM
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Football_War Wow. Never heard of this. It was about a lot more than football, though, I guess. That just solidifies my own opinion that organized sports serve to keep the masses stupid and in the team mentality for when the real SHTF. It's interesting that the violence part wasn't a thing in north America. Maybe that's an indication of higher IQ or something. It's not just a white thing because the Brits act like morons over "footie", though not as violent as someplace like Brazil which isn't very white. What do you make of it? Sounds like a good topic for a grant proposal for a few million in research welfare.
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