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  • susano's Avatar
    Today, 12:06 AM
    #8 Oh, and one last thing: When the four were arraigned, yesterday, the little courthouse had snipers on the roof. The sheriff said it was because they didn't know how many of these anti government cult members members may be out there and if they were a threat. My take on that was that the FBI planted that thought, via the OCBI who advised the sheriff. The sheriff also made a point about the wonderful cooperation between all local OK LE, the OBCI and the FBI. Yeah, I'll bet. Going all the way to the Oklahoma City bombing, an FBI orchestrated terror attack.
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    Yesterday, 11:55 PM
    #7 So, you can clearly see that CW, Cora's 16 year old daughter, said the fifth perp, Paul Grice, was at the scene of the murders and that she got that straight from her own perp mother, just two hours after the murders happened. She also placed him at the attempted murder in February, based on the conversation she overheard. So, being that "God's Misfits" are being called an "anti government cult" and since Paul Grice was part of the group, placed at the murder scene and not arrested, I said WTF? I smell a rat. My theory - and others have thought the same - is that Paul Grice is an FBI informant. The only "evidence" I have to base that theory on is because the Misfits are said to be anti government and Christopher Wray been pushing the narrative of white Christians (though these people are surely Satan's minions") pose an extreme danger to the security United States of America. I'm thinking Paul Grice infiltrated the group and that's how he can be placed at the scene of what was a very brutal murder of two women and he's suddenly John Doe #2 and nothing to see here. OK Bureau of Criminal Investigation and the sheriff say they're satisfied they have all of the killers and are not talking about Grice, even though he's right there in their own arrest affidavit. I saw a short interview, tonight, where a guy who employs Grice as a ranch hand said OBCI (or whatever it's called) And THE FBI interviewed Grice and let him go, saying he wasn't a suspect. Why would the FBI be interviewing Grice? This is a state crime, not federal. Even though there are kidnapping charges, it all occurred in one Oklahoma county so no interstate offense. I believe the FBI has told OK LE to shut up about Grice because he's their guy. Some may recall, that the Mafia hitman, Whitey Bolger/Bulger was whacking people right and left while working as an informant and the FBI covered for him. Never mind that the FBI has orchestrated terrorist attacks, killing massive numbers of people. They don't care about murder, as we well know. The five "Misfits" killing a couple of white women is incidental and doesn't advance the white supremacist narrative so they aren't interested in any of that. They are interested in protecting their informant.
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    Yesterday, 11:21 PM
    #6 The Oklahoma State Bureau of Investigation arrested Tifany Adams, Tad Cullum, Cole Twombly, and Cora Twombly on Saturday, charging them with murder, kidnapping, and conspiracy in the deaths of Butler and Kelley. On Sunday, investigators they’d found two bodies they believe to be the missing women and are awaiting a medical examiner’s identification. The codefendant’s daughter The most critical information in the affidavit came from the 16-year-old daughter of Cora Twombly and Coby White, apparently her previous husband. Identified in the document as CW, the girl told investigators that her mother, Cole Twombly, Adams, Cullum, and another man were all “involved in the deaths of Butler and Kelley.” Arrest affidavit and the entire psycho plot at link:
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    Yesterday, 11:15 PM
    #5 Bear with me here as this is a lot of info and I'm going to look for the statement/affidavit from CW that names Grice as being at the scene of the crime. She also said that all five of them attempted to kill Veronica, back in February, traveling to Kansas to do it but were unable to lure her from her home to kill her. So that's TWICE CW mentions Paul Grice being involved. CW said she overheard a conversation with her mother and others about the February attempt. On the day of the murders, her own mother Cora, told her the five of them did it. CW asked why Jilian had to die and Cora said "she's not innocent because she supported Veronica". CW asked if they dumped the bodies in a well and Cora said, "Something like that".
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    Yesterday, 11:07 PM
    #4 April 14 The OSBI announced Sunday night that two bodies had been found in rural Texas county, Oklahoma. While the identities of the deceased were not released, the update was made by sharing a social post that announced the arrest of four individuals in connection with the disappearances of Veronica Butler and Jilian Kelley. 1779676929819357360 https://twitter.com/OSBI_OK/status/1779676929819357360
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    Yesterday, 10:59 PM
    #3 Tifany and her boyfriend Tad belong to some group they call God's Misfits. Allegedly "anti government", though I don't know the details of whatever their beliefs are. One her facebook page was a yard sign opposing some local tax increase (nothing burger) and a Trump sign or flag. This par of Oklahoma is nowheresville, flat country, with rodeo going farmers and ranchers. Way more cattle than humans. Tifany is on the hospital board and is chair of the county GOP (which isn't saying much because there's few people involved in it). Two of the Misfits, a couple named Cook, had the little kids for the night before the women went missing. Tifany picked them up by noon (after the visitation exchange was to have taken place). Tifany told the Cooks that Veronica had cancelled the visit. Two other people in the Misfits are Cole and Cora Twombly, also ranchers. Another guy named Paul Grice, who's property is across the road from Tad, Tifany's SO, is also in the group. He's in his early thirties, with a wife and three little kids, and does ranch work. It's Paul Grice who looks like he might be an informant.
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    Yesterday, 10:48 PM
    #2. The father of the children and Veronica had never been married (they're young). Veronica had custody of the kids but he went to court to get custody and won, claiming Veronica's younger brother had sexually molested the kids. He was granted custody and Veronica given supervised visitation. The father's name is Wrangler (really). He's had drug and booze problems, with arrests, and he left the kids with his mother (divorced), Tifany Adams, a wealthy rancher and powerful local player who owns thousands of acres. Tifany has a BF named Tad and they have separate residences. Though her son, Wrangler, had legal custody, Tifany denied him the right to take his kids, saying he was a drugged out, boozed up loser. Sheriff called and said the kids were probably better off at grandma's (Tifany). Sometime after, Wrangler, who is now married with another kid and a pregnant wife, gets some drug and/or alcohol charge along with something to do with a gun. He goes to jail and then court sends to him six months of in-patient rehab. He was in rehab when Veronica and Jilian went missing. Tifany's facebook page is full of pictures of Wrangler's and Veronica's kids. When I saw it I knew the grandmother was never planning on returning to their mother, who was on a legal path to getting them back. The custody fight has been going on for at least three years and one of the last motions or whatever accused Tifany of "child stealing" (a codified crime). Veronica was doing well and following all of the court's requirements and was about to get unsupervised visitation which would then lead to regaining full custody (over Tifany's dead body, as far Tifany was concerned). On several occasions, Tifany cancelled vistitaions, in violation of court orders. Tifany conducts herself as though no rules apply to her.
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    Yesterday, 10:28 PM
    #1 March 30, two Kansas women, Veronica Butler and Jilian Kelley, reported missing in Oklahoma. They were traveling together. Veronica was going to pick up her small children for a court ordered, supervised visit (every Saturday from 10AM to 5PM). Jilian, the wife of a pastor, was a court approved supervisor. Upon pick up, the plan was to take the kids for a birthday party (presumably back in Kansas, where Veronica resided). This took place right on the border of the two states. When Veronica, Jilian and kids did not arrive by noon, some of Veronica's family went looking for them. They found Veronica's car with a smashed out window, blood all over the road, Veronica's glasses in the road 100' away, next to a broken hammer, and a magazine/clip/whatever those are called, for a gun, in Jilian's purse, but no gun. Both women gone. the exchange was to take place between Veronica and the children's paternal grandmother, who the kids were residing with.
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  • susano's Avatar
    Yesterday, 10:06 PM
    Okay. Do you know the general story? Need to know where to begin.
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    Yesterday, 09:36 PM
    Anyone here followed that news story, at all? I know this isn't a crime forum but there's something particularly interesting with this because a lot of people suspect one person mentioned in the arrest affidavit might be a federal agent. I won't write more because no one may interested but just wanted to see if anyone has paid attention to this. acptulsa
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    Yesterday, 09:24 PM
    lol This story was related to Art Bell, in the 90s, by a caller. I was really into it back then but it ended up looking like a hoax and nobody could ever find the alleged hole. That said, there are some scary holes (the geographic kind) and it seems the most I've seen are in Russia. https://www.rbth.com/science-and-tech/332855-holes-craters-siberia-yamal-nature
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    Yesterday, 09:10 PM
    Fantastic pics! What did she do the photographing with and did it require a special lens?
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    Yesterday, 03:22 PM
    Well sure. That's all part of the general strategy. Take the ground out from under people's feet so they can no longer tell one thing from another. Neutralize their cognitive reach by keeping them ignorant of all standards, save the one that says there are no standards. This destroys everything in a man; his faith, trust, innate intelligence because he has nothing solid against which to work it. Not unlike muscles, a mind rendered idle atrophies. We are in the hands of the devils that scared Satan from hell such that he's now at Heaven's gate, tearily begging asylum from an evil that left him paling. Certainly so of Biden. Trump, I'm not yet quite convinced on, though his failure to drain the swamp was indeed a spectacular fiasco.
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    Yesterday, 03:05 PM
    OK, simmer down. Let's look at a recent fact. RFKJ suddenly changes to "independent" (how potentially ironic) shortly before a very important election (as elections go, anyhow). Recall the words of the filthy communist shill, FDR, who candidly quipped that in politics there was no such things as coincidences. I do not say that this closes the door on the man, but it certainly gives much upon which to keep one's eyes. Now consider the possibility that everything we see is theater... everything significant, that is. Imagine that the Democrats see they are going to lose in a big way and sense that maybe they won't be able to get away with yet another stolen election. What shall we do? Have one of our... <AHEM> trump cards come out to play. Out of nowhere, the great Kennedy name drops from the DNC sleeve, but knowing their credibility is slipping badly, the new candidate declares independence in the effort to enhance credibility of trustworthiness. After all, this is a Kennedy! We instruct him, perhaps years in advance (after all, these people are careful planners, IMO), to begin spewing a carefully architected litany of talking points that will get conservatives going "hmmm...", the goal there being to siphon off just enough votes to once again make credible a stolen election appear "clean". Clean enough to avoid consequences, that is. Wild, you say? Too wild? Sure, and FDR didn't taunt Japan into attacking us. Northwoods never happened. Tonkin. Weapons of mass destruction. Lusitania. Russia 1917. China 1940s-70s. Khmer Rouge. Amin. Gulf wars. 9/11. Covid. Shall we go on with the drearily long list of grand conspiracies in which nobody believed until after the rotten facts became what we now know them to have been?
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    Yesterday, 03:03 PM
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    Yesterday, 03:02 PM
    Speaking of Star Trek ... THREAD: USAF confirms first AI dogfight Star Trek - S01 E23 - A Taste Of Armageddon https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6g2zgh
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    Yesterday, 02:32 PM
    THREAD: CA-While filming the closing of Oakland's In an Out due to crime, film crew gets robbed
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    Yesterday, 02:22 PM
    JFC what a farce ...
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    Yesterday, 09:01 AM
    https://twitter.com/EndWokeness/status/1780966894310187188 1780966894310187188
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    Yesterday, 06:34 AM
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    Yesterday, 02:22 AM
    Don't know how based he is in this clip (I haven't seen it yet), but I found it not long after posting the OP (he seems to be making the rounds), so here it is: CLIP from SYSTEM UPDATE #258: Former Rep. Dennis Kucinich on His Campaign Against the Establishment https://rumble.com/v4q2ufz-former-rep.-dennis-kucinich-on-his-campaign-against-the-establishment.html {Glenn Greenwald | 17 April 2024} v4nhn78
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    Yesterday, 02:22 AM
    Not a "Tucker on Twitter" item, but relevant, and seems like the best place short of creating a new thread: CLIP from SYSTEM UPDATE #258: Neocons Attack Tucker's Reputation for Dissent on Israel https://rumble.com/v4q2p7f-neocons-attack-tuckers-reputation-for-dissent-on-israel.html {Glenn Greenwald | 17 April 2024} v4nhhyo
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    Yesterday, 02:21 AM
    CLIP from SYSTEM UPDATE #258: SCOTUS Highly Skeptical of Biden DOJ's Jan. 6 Prosecution Theory https://rumble.com/v4q2p8h-scotus-highly-skeptical-of-biden-dojs-jan.-6-prosecution-theory.html {Glenn Greenwald | 17 April 2024} v4nhhzq
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    Yesterday, 01:56 AM
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