Shupe5
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Without putting words into Rand’s mouth... or perhaps, if I myself were holding a Senate seat... With amassed debt more than all previous presidents combined, not vetoing a single bill, hiring and funding Gates-tied people/companies, nationalizing healthcare, etc etc etc etc etc etc etc... I’d keep my mouth shut too about the election, and would hope “republicans” wised up and pick a NON-Globalist Lib in 2024. The problem is, with Common Core and all, people are too stoopid to look at records and finances, and still believe Trump was “sent by God”. Take you, for instance. “Losertarians”. Much better than the “right” boot thugs which are no better than the “left”, marching in lock-step.

What acptulsa wrote above. :up: Here is an excellent read, you can jump down to the Mark Levin section: https://publiushuldah.wordpress.com/category/liberty-amendments/

In a free America, stuff like this would not bat an eye, between consenting adults, and people would be more concerned about policy and financials that affect the individual and the country.

But Trump you trust. :tears: :tears: :tears:

I knew this was coming. What better way to ratify a new constitution. The "Convention of States" Scam: http://www.renewamerica.com/columns/huldah/131215

I admit that I don't know that much about Bitcoin. A few in my liberty group insist that it is liberty oriented and make a case for it. My response is, say you were in a desert, stranded out in the middle of nowhere, need a tool, food or lumber, who could possibly benefit or want to trade their hard assets for imaginary money? I also make the case that crypto is nothing but computer-generated code that can be altered, can be turned on/off or cease to function, and ultimately tracked by governments and powers that be. For all of these reasons and more, I am opposed to digital currency and see a ponzi scheme. Their case is that crypto is here to stay, it does compete, replaces the buggy-whip with modern technology, and either get on the band wagon and profit by it or not participate in society. In my own personal world, I diversify in hard assets and always will.

Pathetic, in a so-called free country, and the fact I am opposed to “petitions”. I don’t ask permission, nor should you. But the “do-gooders” won’t do anything without the express permission of strangers which is none of their stinking business. Anyway, between me and a couple of my liberty friends you got a few more cigs sigs.

phill4paul Which neighbors will turn me in? Immigrants with no documentation and risk deport? Or the red-blooded Americans who vote Democrat, nose around my own private business, and want said immigrants to become “Legal”, like some “republicans” I know?

What you don't understand, or perhaps you are a total proponent of it, is that Fed.gov and the globalists want to control every aspect of your life. They don't care about "borders" or some line on a map. They will use whatever they can to implement biometric identification to every man, woman on child on earth. You want to cross state lines to shop? Want a job? Want to travel on vacation? Cross some line, a "border", you had better be prepared to show your papers, in the form of biometrics. All while documenting and registering "illegals", in order to make them "legal" with Fed.gov, so that they become eligible for handouts. You can bite the nose to spite the face, but the sole reason freedom and fiscal responsibility are no longer is because you STATISTS always insist on "Fed.gov, help me, save me, do something please!" In fact, so much so that you don't give a rats ass about Private Contract Rights and Property Rights between people you don't even associate with, and expect folks like me in other states to pick up up the tab on your ridiculous "solutions". So, as far as I'm concerned, you are no better than a full-blown LIB.

If that somebody is me, yep. I am sick and tired of the drama this Fed.gov is causing. I had a short conversation with a stranger today, who happened to be "republican", and the solution was more Fed.gov involvement, more laws, more federal agents, more holding facilities, and to top it all off more identification, regarding so-called "illegals". My question was, how much more money and security do you want to throw at this? Her response was "as much as it takes".

Nope. Maybe, perhaps, enough people will figure out that by ignoring dictates, so-called leaders and globalists have no power. Either way, I will sleep with a clear conscience, knowing that I did not contribute to the destruction of freedom and economic devastation. You, on the other hand, can take pride-goeth-before-the-fall and continue perpetuating your left-right paradigm. You, statist-nationalist-communist, have no idea what is good for me, so, butt out, like yesterdays true republicans used to do.

Globalists hate Anarcho-Capitalists, and Agorists like me. We don't play into their left-versus-right game into slavery.

So, go make another law. You STATISTS are good for that. You fit the definition of Einstein's quote - perfectly. You won't be happy until Fed.gov controls every single aspect of my life, including what goes on in my own master bedroom bathroom.

I am no longer "discussing" with STATISTS who have wrecked this country's freedoms and cost me my hard-earned money anymore. Go vote for Trump in 2024 if it makes you feel warm and cozy inside. I gave you the facts. End of story.

Read Post #3. I am sick and tired of you STATISTS making mountains out of mole hills, giving opposition more ammunition, which costs me money and freedom. "If you see something, say something", "I demand to see your papers please", can all go to hell. Read Post #3.

Anybody who groups human beings in a negative light needs their own head examined. The best solution: Tell Fed.gov to get the hell out of people's personal private business, immigrants and natives, and stop stealing tax-payer money to further their barbaric police-state initiatives. There used to be a time when people minded their own stinking business and it didn't cost me a dime. Common Core screwed this country up, democrats AND republicans.

Here's a thought, since Fed.gov truly wants to protect our individual freedoms, and concerned about fiscal responsibility: Democrats want more immigrants and more reliance on government. Easy sell to the bleeding heart democrats. So, "republicans" enter the picture, and claim "security", "invaders" and "illegal". That's an easy sell too. Transfer Private Property from owner to Fed.gov (eminent domain), sign federal contracts with big-tech/police state apparatus corporations, construct a Wall on the tax-payer dime, so that any "illegals" can be "funneled" by Federal employees, and register immigrants with the Fed.gov. This way, once they are processed and human beings are considered "legal", democrats can count on more government programs and hand-outs at the tax-payers expense, all while growing Fed.gov. Republicans get angry at that, so they increase "security" even more. That is a much better solution than having people without identification go to government offices and being turned away. In fact, to help, Americans can be identified too, with biometrics and such, to differentiate between them and us. All at Tax-Payer cost.

Out of +REP

They don't understand that the path to liberty is taking personal responsibility, and standing firm on principle without any wavering. We are where we are today because so many deals/trades/forgiveness/bargains with the devil.

Yes you are. You stated it, and it was reply quoted. Take ownership and personal responsibility. Yes, Trump was a blessing, and "sent by God", according to Bill Gates, Moderna, Klaus Schwab, et al. Ron Paul being "sent by God", not so much, according to the above mentioned, as he never would have funded the Globalists/Pharmaceutical Corporations, hired and retained Gates' people, imposed travel bans, or not vetoed any bill put across his desk. He just wouldn't have, plain and simple. We would be freer, and less in debt.

I don't have hatred for Trump. I have said before that I could see myself hanging out with him over a beer and having a good time. My disgust is with "republicans" who vote for opportunists like Trump, and idiots like Romney, Bush, etc. Each and every election, "republicans" cost me more in money and freedom. Trump accelerated it exponentially. Follow the Money. Trump, businessman, is not stupid when it comes to finances. And don't get me started on Tariffs. Trump is a businessman, who deals with Executive Boards, Contracts, and Staffing, all of his adult life. If he didn't understand or know that he was being played by giving tax-payer money to Globalists, and hiring them onto his staff, well, I'm not stupid and I don't buy it. I myself have sat on executive boards and understand entire processes. The only ones being played are the ones making excuses for him.

See how little bones blinded you? A few billion here and there as Shut Up money, compared to the Trillions upon Trillions in added debt, money going to the largest Corporations in the world. Those billions were negated when he initiated OWS , hired Gates-tied people to head it, declared a national emergency, as small/medium businesses closed their doors, putting millions out of work and/or on furlough. Now we are confronted with possible mandated jabs, vaccine passports, travel bans, etc. all because Trump could not/would not tell the American people to work with their own private physicians and not count on or rely on government/politicians. And then the "stimulus" bill which handed out a few hundred bucks to average people while biotech/pharmaceutical was awarded Billions upon Billions. And don't forget that if the case is classified/counted as "Covid", $35,000 of federal money is given out. What a way to "nationalize" medicine. Good trade off, don't you think? Yeah. If I pretended to be a republican while wanting to further the globalist goal, I would throw republican bones too. That way republicans would come back asking for more. Which they in fact are. Don't forget that TPTB want every man, woman and child on planet earth with bio-ID by 2030. Me thinks the American people will be more than accepting of that, now that this run has proven successful. And if you think there is still a fighting chance - about as much of a chance of Ron Paul winning the presidency in 2024, because Ron and people like me are too "extreme" when it comes to freedom and finance.

He had plenty of opportunities to redeem himself, veto bills, at least a single one during his entire 4 years as potus, instead of increasing handouts each time he happily, proudly and braggingly handed them out. In my world, I stand on principle. If more people did that, we wouldn’t be taking 3 steps back time and again. Your way, freedom keeps dwindling while making excuses for it. And don’t tell me what I hear all of the time, that he had to contribute huge big money to socialists/communists in order to do business. If that is the case, he wasn’t fit to be president in the first place, least of all “republican”, which he isn’t.

I vetted everything concerning him as far back that was available. Hatred? Well, I certainly have no love for him, or anybody else who funds enemies. IE: Gates, Clinton Foundation, Hillary for U.S. Senate, Charlie Rangel, Ted Kennedy, John Kerry, Tom Daschle, Joe Biden and a host of others, and the new TARP which funded OWS and the Medical Industrial Complex. Here, this might help: http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?477303-Donald-Trump-On-The-Record With friends like that, who needs enemies. So don’t cry a river the way things are. And don’t blame others without taking personal responsibility. You gave consent, I didn’t.

Carter was authentic. His policies had good intentions, but lead to very bad consequences. FedDeptEd being the worse, Reagan did nothing to eliminate it once he was in office. I especially liked how Carter held Obama fully accountable for drone killings, and the surveillance state that we are under.

“Fascism will come wrapped in a flag and carrying a bible.” Sinclair Lewis (1885-1951) Sinclair was right. The difference between me and you is, I fully vetted that Fascist-Lib prior to the 2016 election. Read that quote again by Sinclair Lewis several times, and remember it well.

Unless I commit a crime against person or property, it is nobody’s stinking business where I go, why I go, or when I go. Period. I can’t and won’t hold democrats accountable for implementing democratic policies. Trump, the “let’s pretend I am republican” should be held fully accountable (now forgotten about), not given passes or forgiveness, for kick starting Joe’s draconian policies. Joe does not have the business sense or the brains to do what he does had it not been for Trumps help before him, ie OWS, “stimulus” bill, etc. Folks are still blind to the fact that Joe herds the democrats, and Trump herded the republicans. Neither of which care about the individual, freedom, liberty or fiscal responsibility. Nationalism: communism rebranded.

I wasn’t debating. I can’t afford that opportunist New York Lib. Or how his pathetic chess policies lead to more fascist anti-freedom. And he has the gonads to brag about “Travel Bans” on his new web site?!

I loves me Portlandia :cool: Carrie also plays a mean axe... guitarist of Sleater-Kinney.